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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #64 on: December 21, 2009, 21:39:26 pm »
I tried to do a simulation to create opposite voltages of equal size, works as a charge-pump.
Used a center-tapped transformer.

Maybe I got it mega wrong! ::)

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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #65 on: December 21, 2009, 21:42:25 pm »
Is simpler than that,  a coil and a  a capacitor, and a transformer for 10khz few turns on the primary and 3 times more on the secondary with 3,5mm wire. Connect everything, secondary, choke, capacitor, cells and than close again in the secondary what you get is a parallel resonance, use a capacitor between primary leads and a capacitor from source to drain of our mosfet, Use a diode in series from positive side of the batery to the primary... Resonance simply . connect an Ameter in series with the circuit and on the primary. and a voltmeter and frequency meter between the choke sides.

Hi Sebos,

You use 3,5mm wire? Man, thats very thick!
Thanks for the advise.. :)

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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #66 on: December 21, 2009, 21:50:58 pm »
Have you seeing this?

Some say that this is hygienic paper and that Stan found the solution when he was at his bathroom, what he had is his bath room that lead him to discover it? think about don't ask me

I believed this drawing was made at a cafe by Mr Meyer and given to a journalist or a friend.I clearly remember i found it on a web page with that kind of explanation, and posted it here a year ago :

http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,665.msg7182.html#msg7182

Kind regards

Yes, and at that time i had a discussion with some people on what all components could mean.
I just forgot about it, because that capacitor was confusing..
Now, the world is different....

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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #67 on: December 21, 2009, 21:57:15 pm »
I tried to do a simulation to create opposite voltages of equal size, works as a charge-pump.
Used a center-tapped transformer.

Maybe I got it mega wrong! ::)

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Nice setup, Webmug.
You use 1mega ohm resistors as wfc.
I think that a little bit high... ;)
In my tests with tubes, i found resistance between 0.5 till 10 ohms..

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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #68 on: December 21, 2009, 21:57:53 pm »
the thicker the better, as you have higher Q. Didn't your coils heated up? My ones burns while the vic works cold. The series configuration heat up a lot the input transformer that here is a iron powder one.

Actually i used up to 5 mm the coils become very heavy and big than doing that i discovered something i'm going to tell you now

Stans choke was so big and so in front of us all this time look at the buggy. In the video
was that big thing behind him when he talks that it can works with snow. Is at least a 200mh air coil under vacuum.

I know because i went to a transformer fabric and when i proposed 40kv 5 amps he said you will need to go to vacuum. And showed me something just like that.

On the other meyer video
you see it in another way connected straight to the cell Is on the right side of the car something Round and big.

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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #69 on: December 21, 2009, 22:06:37 pm »
seb are you talking about the blue electric motor looking device?

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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #70 on: December 21, 2009, 22:10:25 pm »
I tried to do a simulation to create opposite voltages of equal size, works as a charge-pump.
Used a center-tapped transformer.

Maybe I got it mega wrong! ::)

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$ 1 5.0E-6 0.41233529972698213 42 5.0 50
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l 464 256 560 256 0 0.2 0.46392002014487865
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br,
webmug

Nice setup, Webmug.
You use 1mega ohm resistors as wfc.
I think that a little bit high... ;)
In my tests with tubes, i found resistance between 0.5 till 10 ohms..

Steve

Strange circuit :o, where is the potential coming from if you have max. 10 ohms cell, from inductor and choke???
My plate cell has 0 ohm but when its charging it rises to 7k ohm or more. My 6 parallel tubes cell has 1M ohms 1,5mm gaps? :-\

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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #71 on: December 21, 2009, 22:12:11 pm »
not the motor what suppose to be the cell in the first video

In the other is different if you look at it