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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #104 on: December 22, 2009, 20:44:07 pm »
and money allways follows popularity since popularity seems to pay off in todays society (sponsors)  due to monoistic views of the sheeple, i mean people.. following unworthy dictatorships....... we are gonna need someone to get a car to run on water then some how become a icon. (famous)... how??? takes a act of genius... one must be able to apply a senario to reality that plays out for the better good.... for example.. one may find a way to sneak a highly advertised water power car on the race track during daytona 500 right before the  race. to get the acknowledgement of the people and  of the media.. under high attention environment.... one must fuel the hope and belief to the people..  they will catalyze action by greater magnitude then me and u alone... ideas of mass production begining soley from u or me in some type of economical view based on money is non existant....

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« Reply #105 on: December 22, 2009, 20:45:56 pm »

Wonder if government's will tax water or the use of water fuel cells, when people starts to use them?..
Free clean energy and at the same time healing the planet is like a dream..

In my oil producing country they recently shut down a new biodiesel plant, without saying why they did that... maybe they was afraid for the competition...

I think we have to claim this energy for free world wide to be able to use it.
So far it is not an issue, for many do not believe that this is possible, but when it is known, i really hopes nobody stops us.

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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #106 on: December 22, 2009, 23:15:57 pm »
I have replicated this setup with the two tubes. Yes, it is resonance. The water temperature does not change. The only problem is only one of the tubes produces significant gas. The next step is how to extend it to six tubes without applying 3 circuits.

Maybe you have not hooked the 2 diodes properly on the 2 tubes?
You might also choose to use 1 tube and 2 diodes.
Somehow, i think thats how Stan did it...

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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #107 on: December 22, 2009, 23:23:32 pm »
very nice yaro thats the way tryout this use a 300 nf cap and drive it into resonance and check if you get better results does the inductor get hot?
 
WAYtoGO YES we do

The 16 gage coils got hot but the big 13 gage coil does not get hot. The diodes get hot too.

Yaro, can you share your setup, and post a schematic?
Thats what Sebos did and what i did.
That way, we can learn from our mistakes and take it to a higher level.


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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #108 on: December 22, 2009, 23:55:20 pm »
My setup is the same as yours, the only difference is the half-bridge circuit.
I also found out that when I hooked up the capacitor in series the two tubes produced evenly. Visually, it seems like the production is higher without the capacitor.

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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #109 on: December 23, 2009, 04:52:57 am »

If you put 12V on your wfc, and it pulls 6amps.....How large is the resistance? 2 ohms!
The higher the voltage, the lower the resistance, and more amps are flowing...


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Thinking out loud:

Am I thinking wrong here? We do not want current to flow through the WFC!  We want to prevent this because we do NOT want dead-short-condition (conventional electrolysis). If we use current we are creating heat (losses).

The only current that flows, is feeding the primary of the transformer to power the charge-pump circuit.

Just as you explained, this circuit is charging itself with BEMF due to the AC resonance (give it a little low power push at a fixed period and amplitude is rising). Just like in nature all is in balance (oscillating circuit). If we do nothing, the system eventually dies.

In the simulation we can see the STEP-CHARGE, first low potentials then rising to a maximum value the components can handle. At low frequency (672Hz) the potential is rising very slow but it is rising, so higher frequency can be used to charge it faster. The component values are much smaller at higher frequencies.

Stan explained as we all know, that he used opposite potentials (of equal value) for PULLING the water molecules at the di-poles.

Yes, there is little current necessary to polarize the water for the fist step, to charge it to a min. of 2V (this value is obvious a fixed threshold) If we do not have current flowing, water is not responding (polarizing). We can polarize water with the CHARGE-PUMP for a fixed time period.

When this threshold is reached, we want to prevent dead-short-condition (gap-sparking). If this occurred, polarization must be done again from the beginning.
He prevented this with a gate-signal. When gating (no pulse) water is regaining its dielectric strength (more/less resistance) when we gate (pulse) there is even more potential because the charge-pump is already charged (EMF is cycling through the circuit). But the dielectric is changing (resistance) due to gas production, so the gating signal must also be compensated to prevent dead-short-condition.

Also this PULLING only works with min. of kV potentials, because the water molecules only wants to interact on this potential level.

Do circuit simulations yourself and see the CHARGE-PUMP STEP-CHARGING...

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Webmug

This is always how I imagined it myself webmug , pull a bit but not  too much with the gate .

Is it really that simple ??

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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #110 on: December 23, 2009, 13:11:19 pm »
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Re: Working resonance circuit
« Reply #111 on: December 23, 2009, 14:23:19 pm »
nice work seb... seems to be a resonable approach for trying to get sponsors.. but most people want to see proof or they aint hearing it... just because u say 100 times over faraday doesnt mean they will beleive...