Author Topic: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell  (Read 35152 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Moderator
  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 980
Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2010, 20:24:30 pm »
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/StanMeyerCircuit.jpg)

Can't remember where this is from.

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Sr. member
  • ***
  • Posts: 363
Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2010, 22:49:40 pm »
That drawing is from the evaluation report.And no I don't think the transistor will work.The SCR is there for a reason.It has something to do with how they need to be switched on and off.It allows the 120hz line voltage to pass through as you cycle the trigger on an off with the frequency generator.If you stray from the original,It's not going to work the same if at all.
Don

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 235
Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #66 on: March 17, 2010, 00:52:15 am »
Also the variacs nuetral or ground is connected threw, its not isolated I believe.

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Moderator
  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 980
Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #67 on: March 17, 2010, 02:41:35 am »
Ok, I'll have to learn more about that then,

What about this set up, It has a DC input, which made me think of a smoothing cap after the bridge, then he has a Transistor, the box that says voltage amplitude control, i'm not sure what that would be since it is a DC setup, you would have to be pulsing it then through a transformer then through a smoothing cap to change the DC voltage again. I guess this one might be suited for a 12 volt car battery.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/Picture14-3.png)

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 270
Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #68 on: March 17, 2010, 02:50:53 am »
In any of Stan's designs he never uses a smoothing cap. In fact he has made statements as to the signal not being smoothed. The picture above is somewhat misrepresenting the power input. Even though the box is labeled after the DC input it will still be a variable transformer and a bridge. Don't let the drawing confuse you, the way it is drawn is backwards. Yet, it is just a block diagram not to be confused with a detailed schematic.

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Moderator
  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 980
Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #69 on: March 17, 2010, 03:48:31 am »
Ok, thank you for the explanation, I think I am going to re-read some patents again and gather some more details

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Moderator
  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 980
Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #70 on: March 18, 2010, 16:08:25 pm »
would a range of 0-10,000 Hz with intervals of 10 Hz be good enough?

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Sr. member
  • ***
  • Posts: 457
Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #71 on: April 11, 2010, 16:47:45 pm »
depends on the values. you can measure the wfc-capacity WITHOUT water with a RLC meter (be sure to short it first so there is no voltage across it) and then multiply it by 80 to have a rough estimate. The coil inductance is also measurable.
Then calculate the resonant frequency, it may be off several thousand hertz but it gives you a range to work with.

Also does anyone know how much amps the plate cell consumes at a specific voltage / frequency? Dynodon said something about that in the second video but i couldn't understand it.
The use of decade counters and so on isn't necessary anymore, it's not state of the art and it won't perform magic. Interesting that Stan advised to not use filter caps. I will remove them from my device.