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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2009, 16:13:06 pm »
it s a demostration unit it has flat plates purposly so you can see the ribon
the circuit  will work on anything conductive size or shape doesnt matter

 


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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2009, 16:22:04 pm »
so dudley you are telling me the fields transmitted from a round tube  encased by another is the same type of field that is transmitted between 2 linear objects such as plates..

i would think that a round outer tube will have concaved  field lines while the inner would have expansive electric field line..

not sure how this would make a difference but i do believe there is a difference in reactions between the two's geometrical configurations.

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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2009, 18:17:47 pm »
if the electrical field is important after all. in the test report it is mentioned that the tubecell used 500W energy (12.5V x 40 Amps in, 4.4 Amps per tube), which is a lot but also a lot hydrogen. Nevertheless 4.4 Amps per tube is not pure electrical force obviously.

On the other side it's not mentioned how the power was measured (12.5V/40 Amps after the alternator or before?). most of the calculations for the tubecell (p. 60/61) don't make sense anyway.

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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2009, 19:12:10 pm »
all the electrode do is give an area for the electrical energy to exit the reaction is not of the surfaced of the electrode  cause their is no bubble formation on the electrode surface

some surfaces are better than other due to the fact the dont allow for electrical leakage

in stans history he used many types of cells   plates ,corrigate plates, tubes, spheres , cones

all the electrodes worked some just better than others due to  electrical leakage

that is why he started insulating electrodes

the 500 watts  mentioned in his tube cell in the report is just a flat out lie   

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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2009, 20:18:09 pm »
outlaw, yea, as dudley says, all the shape does is contain the electric field differently, with plates you have a huge fringe effect at the edges which makes losses, with a tube you only have a fringe effect on the ends

stan insulated the back of his plates (you can see the are screwed to a acrylic plate), and later insulated the tubes in solid delrin, this focuses all the electric fields into the water gap to make it more efficient

a patent and TB and video says he tried spheres, but i have never seen any pictures of the actual devices, i would like to...

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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2009, 20:48:07 pm »
ok so this set up will be appropriate for a tube cell then?

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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2009, 21:53:28 pm »
you can hook this up to a tube cell, yes

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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2009, 17:44:09 pm »
the delrin case is on the bobbin as  a means of attaching the core to the box

the circuit will produce gas but not the amount you would think  it isnt an overunity because it uses 5 amps going into the inductor  which is restricted to 1.36  the  other 3.7 amps are wasted as heat  and magnetism of the core

the unit will get hot the reason the units are so tall is to make it take a long time  because the volume of water and metal are higher

Great to read you build this Demo Cell, dudley!

I'm thinking:
If you restrict to 1.36 amps and 3.7 amps are wasted as heat, you can design a better system if you know how this demo cell operates? So you didn't used plate cells, how can you adjust the gap size? Why plates? How to lower the current and raise voltage potentials between the plates? If you can adjust the gap size, you can match the plates (di-pole) with the choke and restrict more amps. Isn't that the purpose of this setup, to verify and demonstrate his invention and see that there is a difference between this setup and normal electrolysis process?

Sure you can connect all types of cells (voltage zones), but the choke must also be matched to the system. This choke was matched to operate with the adjustable plate cell.

Stan wrote that his system can produce lots of gas in the milli amp range and used Kilo volts. So he went from this design (lots of Amps, Voltage, gas) to a better one (less Amps, more Voltage, more gas).

I'm curious, what kind of tests have you performed more on it?

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