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Ambient air processor, EEC, and exhaust mixer project
« on: November 28, 2009, 23:14:18 pm »
The time has come.
The next step has to be made.
My Bike is the perfect setup.It runs on HHO.
Now i need to improve the setup accoording to Stans setup as written in attached patent.

Steve

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Re: Ambient air processor, EEC, and exhaust mixer project
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2010, 22:47:39 pm »
My new ambient air processor.

High voltage high frequency pulses create an ION wind flow.
The video shows smoke being blowed away by ion winds.... ;)

All is made to be mounted on my HHO 600cc engine.
See what happens, is it..... 8)

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Re: Ambient air processor, EEC, and exhaust mixer project
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2010, 23:39:33 pm »
Steve real nice!

When you get it installed and running can you tell me if it makes a difference for the polarity of the device.
I take it the high voltage is on your little wire electrodes and the tubes are your negative?



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Re: Ambient air processor, EEC, and exhaust mixer project
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2010, 23:44:32 pm »
Steve real nice!

When you get it installed and running can you tell me if it makes a difference for the polarity of the device.
I take it the high voltage is on your little wire electrodes and the tubes are your negative?

Hi Komtek,

I will change the plus and minus, during the tests.
The thin wire on the vid is negative.
I did change the polarity, but the flow of ions didnt change, strangly...
Need to do more tests.
Maybe wednesday, i can try it on the engine.

Steve





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Re: Ambient air processor, EEC, and exhaust mixer project
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2010, 18:16:27 pm »
One of those days.............

The motorbike was running on HHO.
One big table full of equipement beside the bike.
All ionizers where ready.
So, the bike ran on HHO and the big moment was there to fire up the hv circuit......
All the bobine did was pooooooooffffffffffff and shorted out.....argggggggggg

I had a spare, but that one i send to Alan....
Well....i do have an old computermonitor with a flyback......
Next test maybe saterday?

I was sooooooooo close...


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Re: Ambient air processor, EEC, and exhaust mixer project
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2010, 19:31:29 pm »
Steve sorry to hear that.

Can you tell us any more of the details as to why it went poof?
This might help as to what not to do.

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Re: Ambient air processor, EEC, and exhaust mixer project
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2010, 13:42:38 pm »
Steve sorry to hear that.

Can you tell us any more of the details as to why it went poof?
This might help as to what not to do.

Not so much to tell.
On the bench, the airprocessor pulled 0.5amps by 14 volts.
So, on the bike i added the same power and tried a little bit more.
One spark came and fried my primairy coil, so to speak.
That was a bit strange, because i made sparks before with this setup.
Not sure why it died now. Is used a 10mohm resistor in series with my diodes.
Probably bad luck.



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Re: Ambient air processor, EEC, and exhaust mixer project
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2010, 08:36:11 am »
Hi Komtek,

I will change the plus and minus, during the tests.
The thin wire on the vid is negative.
I did change the polarity, but the flow of ions didnt change, strangly...
Need to do more tests.
Maybe wednesday, i can try it on the engine.

Steve

This is because of the charge density on the surfaces that is dependant on shape.

If you make a HV circuit with a pin on one pole and a large ball bearing on the other; there will be a higher concentration of charge in the pin than in the ball simply because there is more space for the charge to spread out on, in the ball bearing.

Ions will always flow from the pin (small surface area) to the ball (large surface area)

This is how you get to select what charge ends up in the air!

Check out this very interesting site too understand this better and for some great circuit diagrams! (with overload protection!  ;D)
http://www.blazelabs.com/

That reminds me Steve:  Round the edges of your cylinders and sharpen your 'pins' to increase efficiency.  the rounded surfaces should have a diameter of 3mm if I remember correctly.

As oxygen is a very electronegative atom I expect you to see better results with the negative on the pins:
This will add the electrons the oxygen craves so that it will not want to steal the hydrogen's electrons by recombining with it.

PS:
If you run an engine on HHO alone your exhaust gas will be steam.
You will be better off using water mist to slow combustion:  It's cooler!  :)

If you use HHO and air you will get NOx as HHO burns even hotter than petrol.
You got a NOx cat lying around by any chance?...  ;)
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