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Re: Heat exchanger HHO
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2010, 18:59:14 pm »
As far as separating Hydrogen from Oxygen maybe there is a machine out there that could be modified. People that need oxygen have a machine that concentrates Oxygen from air. I am not sure how they work but it may be a simple modification.
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Hi Nick,

I know that there are machines capable by using cold to make the oxygen a liguid and that way you can remove the oxygen..

We are still trying another way. It might be possible to ionionize the HHO and in that form the oxygen gets magnetic propertys...But thats still a theory...

So much to try, so little time and money... ;)

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Re: Heat exchanger HHO
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2010, 19:11:12 pm »
hello steve I re-read the thermal energy patent from meyer again

and thinking about seems he use the high voltage to cause atom aperture to allow the atom to absorb external energy.

I was Thinking that maybe if you try to use a heat exchanger together with the kind of high voltage exposition meyer proposed you could obtain what he calls thermal energy gain.

what do you think about?


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Re: Heat exchanger HHO
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2010, 19:50:57 pm »
pg 121 water fuel tech

Energy Aperture (7) of Figure (5-8) exists in all atomic structures (individual atoms) and functions as a
one-way energy valve when the Incoming Energy Vortex transfers a given or discrete amount of
"Universal Energy" (having higher energy potential) into the Energy Spectrum of the Atom to
compensate for and maintain "Atomic Energy Equilibrium" during either "quiescent" or "active" state of
tickling panicle oscillation as an energy generator (example, bouncing electrons in a sinusoidal-wave
form to its orbital path to cause electromagnetic wave oscillations) ... allowing the influx of "Universal
Energy" (Light Energy) to vortex inwardly toward the centre part of the "Gyroscopic" orbital spinvelocity
of nucleus panicles being displaced about a common axis of rotation ... the resulting
"Gyroscopic Action" regulating the inward flow or flow intensity of "Universal Energy" in direct
relationship to the orbital spin-velocity of the geometrical particle-structuring (interlocking particles
grouped in space relationship to each other) set in orbital motion, as illustrated in (570) of Figure (5-10).

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Re: Heat exchanger HHO
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2010, 20:29:03 pm »
pg 121 water fuel tech

Energy Aperture (7) of Figure (5-8) exists in all atomic structures (individual atoms) [color=]and functions as a
one-way energy valve
[/color] when the Incoming Energy Vortex transfers a given or discrete amount of
"Universal Energy" ([color=]having higher energy potential (hotter)[/color])into the Energy Spectrum of the Atom to
compensate for and maintain "Atomic Energy Equilibrium" during either "quiescent" or "active" state of
tickling panicle oscillation as an energy generator (example, bouncing electrons in a sinusoidal-wave
form to its orbital path to cause electromagnetic wave oscillations) ... allowing the influx of "Universal
Energy" (Light Energy) to vortex inwardly toward the centre part of the "Gyroscopic" orbital spinvelocity
of nucleus panicles being displaced about a common axis of rotation ... the resulting
"Gyroscopic Action" regulating the inward flow or flow intensity of "Universal Energy" in direct
relationship to the orbital spin-velocity of the geometrical particle-structuring (interlocking particles
grouped in space relationship to each other) set in orbital motion, as illustrated in (570) of Figure (5-10).

Look at the evidenced point

I think this could be a way of making the atoms absorbs chemically or atomically, heat energy or same as infrared energy.

Maybe the high voltage can cause the said atom aperture...

Maybe a gas treated this way don't heat up even being exposed to the heat because maybe energy goes straight into the atoms... making what stan said gaining thermal energy...

A heat source could be the engine heat losses or a turbine heat losses.

Collisions can cause heat... Particle oscillation as energy generator

High voltage dc can cause collisions too...

well it seems to have much to do with it.

I believed that the photoelectric effect was the responsible by the thermal energy gain but maybe i'm wrong. Heat can do work too. And can cause an electrode working function to be even lower. 




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Re: Heat exchanger HHO
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2010, 20:47:20 pm »
i think there is somthin here seb.. i was reading this paragraph right before i read ur latest post "thinking about seems he use the high voltage to cause atom aperture to allow the atom to absorb external energy."

its not thermal though i dont think.. on off time when light (laser) energy is being pulsed it allows a higher aborbtion of it i think..  stan describes it a little different verbally.. he says that on light time it keeps the electrons from collapsing.. and will allow a geometrical increase in state of energy.. and i beleive he speaks of the hydrogen atoms specifically

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Re: Heat exchanger HHO
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2010, 20:59:17 pm »
I think yes there is something here.

maybe the gas processor makes the gas to absorb thermal energy from its own previous explosion. And probably you are right that the light and hv could cause this aperture to absorb the energy. And release a bigger than normal explosion.

We should work on this...

In the energetic forum users believing that only the laser and high voltage could do the job. (i believe that he is wrong) because he is only applying energy.

Re reading the patent i believe it could be the road to reach the thermal explosion increase, by not the energy applied but by the energy absorbed from the aperture in the atom caused by the energy applied.

In this case
Heat from losses will be needed as condition for this theory to hold. Maybe would not work in a heater application.


This would cause a resonance between the gas and the heat generated by the gas.


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Re: Heat exchanger HHO
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2010, 22:17:33 pm »
nice input!

at this moment, i am more thinking on how to apply hv to the hho, without getting blownup.....
Then see if we can get some magfields from the gas...

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Re: Heat exchanger HHO
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2010, 22:18:42 pm »
Nice beat steve