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Re: Ultrasonic Nebulizer Array 3000mL per hour Cold Fog Generator WATER BURNS
« Reply #88 on: September 30, 2011, 09:42:31 am »
A small comment from my part here.
Many people say that the puharich circuit is AC.
But is it?
Look how one side of the output circuit is hooked up to GROUND.
So, only half AC cycle possible there, is it.....= dc pulse

Steve

I missed this post awhile back Steve so I'll answer it real quick for all. The signal to transfo is AC Amplitude Modulated sine wave but is half on primary side. and the secondary side is half wave rectified with a blocking diode.

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Re: Ultrasonic Nebulizer Array 3000mL per hour Cold Fog Generator WATER BURNS
« Reply #89 on: September 30, 2011, 13:32:47 pm »
Here's today's experiments on the extraction circuit. Will do more once I get sum super fine mesh SS screen.

http://youtu.be/AKfdX_XUz5g

Hi Fi3,

I am fascinated by your video. Can you explain a bit more about yr setup?
As far as i understand it, you create steam, ad uv light and then you measure 15ac?
Are you also ionizing the fog first?

Wel done!

Steve

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The steam is a cold fog more then it is hot steam. The fog is generated by particle oscillation back and forth creating cavitation from particle collision of the water taking place. Which creates a negative pressure producing with extreme amount of focused heat energy in the jet area of fogger. And shearing electrons off the water molecule and making the water possess a negative charge. Next using the LEDS which are 3watts a piece 660nm and 435nm range with total of 4 LEDS 2 of each type.  This adds  heat energy which causes the molecule to flex and dislodged electrons are bounced off to keep from letting the electron fall back down to orbital ring. Natural air gases are charged using mesh in intake tubes to fog gen then charged again to intake of engine while on the way electrons are consumed in the form of physical energy neon light bulb. A capacitor is pair between a scr to switch it on and off as to allow electrons to align on electrode surface til charge cycle completes filling cap and dumping through the light bulb to remove fully from the water molecule to create  a unstable for of water to be used as fuel.   

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Re: Ultrasonic Nebulizer Array 3000mL per hour Cold Fog Generator WATER BURNS
« Reply #90 on: September 30, 2011, 15:40:46 pm »
Here's today's experiments on the extraction circuit. Will do more once I get sum super fine mesh SS screen.

http://youtu.be/AKfdX_XUz5g

Hi Fi3,

I am fascinated by your video. Can you explain a bit more about yr setup?
As far as i understand it, you create steam, ad uv light and then you measure 15ac?
Are you also ionizing the fog first?

Wel done!

Steve

Hello all
The steam is a cold fog more then it is hot steam. The fog is generated by particle oscillation back and forth creating cavitation from particle collision of the water taking place. Which creates a negative pressure producing with extreme amount of focused heat energy in the jet area of fogger. And shearing electrons off the water molecule and making the water possess a negative charge. Next using the LEDS which are 3watts a piece 660nm and 435nm range with total of 4 LEDS 2 of each type.  This adds  heat energy which causes the molecule to flex and dislodged electrons are bounced off to keep from letting the electron fall back down to orbital ring. Natural air gases are charged using mesh in intake tubes to fog gen then charged again to intake of engine while on the way electrons are consumed in the form of physical energy neon light bulb. A capacitor is pair between a scr to switch it on and off as to allow electrons to align on electrode surface til charge cycle completes filling cap and dumping through the light bulb to remove fully from the water molecule to create  a unstable for of water to be used as fuel.   

very interesting:

"The signal to transfo is AC Amplitude Modulated sine wave but is half on primary side. and the secondary side is half wave rectified with a blocking diode.

So - to save time and expense - i have wondered what is the difference to using a lawton type square wave circuit to drive the ....vic/choke/cell compared to the meyers (8xa 9xa) drawing showing a signal derived from a fixed distributed mains supply fed circuit that, according to the meyers circuit and patent drawings appear to show a.............................sine wave.(or to be a little bit more precise...a rectified half of a sine wave...?

IS there any cell / vic/ choke response or performance or waveform or voltage or harmonic response that may vary if one relies upon a 120v 60hz? supply or a 230v 50hz main supply.......?

yes or no?



To develop a circuit that does not rely upon a distributed mains supply to drive an ac amplitude modulated wave that may be switched through a scr or fet or toroid or choke - is there a simple requirement to provide a stable frequency sine wave generator that is timed to switch on and off ?

OR does there exist a REQUIREMENT to drive a VIC / coil / toroid / choke with a square looking wave to obtain the results required - sine or square or doesnt matter? triangle wave will do also .?

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Re: Ultrasonic Nebulizer Array 3000mL per hour Cold Fog Generator WATER BURNS
« Reply #91 on: September 30, 2011, 18:34:53 pm »
I have put the construction of WFC itself on hold for now because I do not believe it is a necessary part any more. I believe it has been out dated by the ultrasonic transducer used in fountain foggers. I'm putting more faith in reading Stanley's descriptions and function of each part of his tech. Then fundings example of things like Lenz Law Columbs Law and many more text book examples to figure it out.


Ultrasonic power supply (generator) converts DC voltage to high
frequency 25 kHz (25,000 cylces per second) electrical energy. This electrical energy is
transmitted to the transducer within the handpiece, where it is changed to mechanical
vibrations. The vibrations from the transducer are intensified by the probe (horn),
creating pressure waves in the liquid. This action forms millions of microscopic bubbles
(cavities) which expand during the negative pressure excursion, and implode violently
during the positive excursion. It is this phenomenon, referred to as cavitation, which
produces the powerful shearing action at the probe tip, and causes the molecules in the
liquid to become intensely agitated.

FREQUENCY AND AMPLITUDE
The radiating-wave frequencies most commonly used in ultrasonic cleaning, 18-120 kHz,
lie just above the audible frequency range. In any sonic system,the harmonics of the
fundamental frequency, together with vibrations originating at the container walls and
liquid surface, produce audible sound. Thus, an operating system that is fundamentally
ultrasonic will nonetheless by audible, and low frequency (20-kHz) systems will
generally be noisier than higher-frequency (40-kHz) systems.
Moreover, ultrasonic intensity is an integral function of the frequency and amplitude of a
radiating wave; therefore, a 20-kHz radiating wave will be approximately twice the
intensity of a 40-kHz wave for any given average power output, and consequently the
cavitation intensity resulting from a 20-kHz wave will be proportionately greater than that
resulting from a 40-kHz wave.
The cavitation phenomenon will, of course, occur less frequently at 20 kHz, but this is
not thought to have a significant bearing on effectiveness. However, the longer
wavelengths of low-frequency ultrasonic systems result in substantially different
standing-wave patters throughout the liquid medium.


Directly copied from Stan Meyer WFC Brief

Particle Oscillation As An Energy Generator
All energy in our physical universe (The third dimension) comes from a singular source ... the atom.
There are four basic forces that make up and effect the atomic structure: electrical force, electromagnetic force,
weak and strong nuclear forces, and gravity. By either attenuating either one or more of these atomic forces,
energy can be release from the atom to perform work in a variety of ways: such as, emitting photon,
electromagnetic, or even radiant heat energy; Exposing the water molecule atom (s) to an external electrical
attraction force (SS '/RR') separately or combining the external electrical attraction force with an external
electrical repelling force (SS'-TT'/RR'-WW') can cause the bipolar electrical charged water molecule atom (s)
to release thermal heat energy when physical impact (physical force) is achieved as a result of particle (s)
colliding together under electrical stress which becomes and is the physical mover ... causing electron bounce
to oscillate the energy aperture of each atom of the water molecule.
Voltage Flexing Process
Particle oscillation as a "Energy Generator" by way of "physical impact" caused by a
singular unipolar voltage pulse wave-form alternately polarity triggered is yet another method
beyond the prior art to flex the water molecule to release thermal energy (Kinetic Energy) from
the water molecule atom (s) without the need of gas combustion brought about by gas separation
from water, as so illustrated in (1050) of Figure (11-5).

This continued and repeated oscillation of the bipolar water molecule (1004/1006) in
opposite direction of linear travel (back and forth motion) produces kinetic energy (165) when the
moving and deflected bipolar water molecule (1004/1006) or any other bipolar molecule of water
interlocking with ever changing electrical attraction forces (S-S' /R-R') collides with neighboring
water molecules present in the same water bath (68).

Not only does the alternate first gated voltage pulse (B+/O - B-/O) and then the second
gated voltage pulse (OIB+ - OIB-) oscillates the bipolar water molecule (s) back and forth in rapid
succession to produce heated water at a predetermined temperature level on demand; but, also,
deflects the oscillating bipolar water molecule in an upward direction since the reforming voltage
pulse waves are always in a state of progressive movement of linear displacement ... performing
the same function as a water pump ... a water pump, however, not having any mechanical moving
parts to wear out.


The ionized atoms along with free floating negative charged electrons are, now, deflected (pulsing electrical voltage fields of opposite polarity) through the Electrical Polarization Process ...imparting or superimposing a second physical-force (particle-impact) unto the electrically charged water bath. Oscillation (back and forth movement) of electrically charged particles by way of voltage deflection is hereinafter called "Resonant Action", as illustrated in Figure (1-10). Attenuating and adjusting the "pulse-voltage-amplitude" with respect to the "pulse voltage frequency", now, produces hydrogen gas on demand while restricting amp flow.
Stanley A. Meyer

 A little bit about Ultrasonics now...
 Ultrasonic power supply (generator) converts DC voltage to high frequency 25 kHz (25,000 cylces per second) electrical energy. This electrical energy is transmitted to the transducer within the handpiece, where it is changed to mechanical vibrations. The vibrations from the transducer are intensified by the probe (horn), creating pressure waves in the liquid. This action forms millions of microscopic bubbles (cavities) which expand during the negative pressure excursion, and implode violently during the positive excursion. It is this phenomenon, referred to as cavitation, which produces the powerful shearing action at the probe tip, and causes the molecules in the liquid to become intensely agitated. Energy in water has been increased by physically slamming water molecule together shearing outer covalent electrons off water molecule increasing the energy potential of water because moving the electrons out of orbit via particle oscillation or particle impact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkY8f07IonE


Maybe this is Stan's True secret of the LC Series Circuit?Huh?

Example
If   we measure the ac voltages across L and C, we find vL = 43v and vC =   33v. Yet our source voltage is still just 10v. What's going on here? How   can we get 76v across two components in series across a 10v source?

The   Vectors
The vectors in a series LC circuit.

The answer is   clear when we look at the voltage vectors in this circuit. They are   shown to the right.

Since this is a series circuit, the current   is the same throughout the circuit. With no circuit resistance, there is   no resistive voltage, so we simply show the current vector in red, at   the reference phase angle of 0°.

We know that voltage leads   current in an inductance, so we show vL at a phase angle of +90°. We   also know that voltage lags current in a capacitance, so we show vC at   -90°. And this gives us our first clue as to what is happening in this   circuit and how we can get both vL and vC to be higher than the source   voltage: they oppose each other, and at least partially cancel each   other out. It is the difference between these two voltages that must   match the source voltage, and sure enough, 43v - 33v = 10v.

RE:   Hydrogen Fracturing Process Memo WFC 420
_________________________________________________ ____________________________
Stanley   A. Meyer 1 - 3
LC Voltage
The voltage across the inductor (C) or capacitor (ER) is   greater than the applied voltage (H). At
frequency close to   resonance, the voltage across the individual components is higher than   the applied
voltage (H), and, at resonant frequency, the   voltage VT across both the inductor and the c:apacitor are
theoretically   infinite. However, physical constraints of components and circuit   interaction prevents the
voltage from reaching infinity.
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Yes, voltage step-up only helps if the water molecule disassociation happened by electrostatic force, which would be making use of reactive power. With normal electrolysis even a parallel resonant circuit wouldn't help (normally steps-up current) because in a plate capacitor with water in between the current-leakage through the water can be modeled as a ohmic resistor in parallel.
Exactly



ENERGIZING WATER MOLECULE COMPOSITION www.hydrodrive.co.in
 Hydrogen bonding of water molecules provides unique solvent with properties essential to many physical, chemical, and biological processes. Hydrogen bond, the faint force between hydrogen and the more electronegative oxygen, is known to have vibrational phases that may be excited by numerous forms of energy transfer.
http://www.hydrodrive.co.in/ENERGISING%20WATER%20MOLECULAR%20COMPOSITIONS.htm
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 Here is the next best piece of info I just found I think everyone will like.
 
 Here are a few words from it.
 
 CHARGING MECHANISMS 43
 a back-emf is built up that cancels the original field of the contact
 potential across the plates, at which point the flow of ions ceases. A
 potential equal to the contact potential will now appear across the
 switch and a situation such as shown in Fig. 21b will be reached.
 The presence of ions between two electrodes of dissimilar materials
 and their ability to generate a steady current is nothing less than a
 galvanic cell. The primary source of energy is the ionization agency
 which might be radioactivity or cosmic rays as in the case of our
 ionized atmosphere. Ions are also produced in liquids where one or
 both electrode materials might slowly go into solution in the form of
 ions. The dissolved ions supply the energy that drives galvanic
 currents through circuits and usually at the cost of the lower work
 function material itself. A typical example is the flashlight battery or
 dry cell. Most charging processes involving ions are electrochemical 



 Electron Extraction Circuit
 http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Radiant_...nna_System
 
 
 This looks to be a good electron extraction circuit... Something tells me Stans Drawings aren't always right , but close enough to see how it works.
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Re: Ultrasonic Nebulizer Array 3000mL per hour Cold Fog Generator WATER BURNS
« Reply #93 on: October 01, 2011, 09:41:40 am »
Thanks FI3!

Lots of good and very intersting stuff.
I agree and i like the idea of not using a wfc anymore and just go using tiny drops of water in any way shape or form and do a nice smart trick with it.
And you are already far on the this development road..
Well done!

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Re: Ultrasonic Nebulizer Array 3000mL per hour Cold Fog Generator WATER BURNS
« Reply #94 on: October 02, 2011, 07:01:04 am »
metimes lets the voltage rise higher before a spark jumps, which lets the bulb flash more brightly. Electron Extraction Circuit
 
 SELF-STARTING

 But where does the first charge come from?  In fact, if you build such a device, it will usually create voltage all by itself, spontaneously, without being pre-charged.  During dry conditions everything near the generator ends up with a tiny electric charge just from being handled.  If one of the upper cans is slightly negative, it will cause the water to have imbalanced positive, which will start up the other side of the generator, which will make the charge on the negative side become larger, etc., over and over.

 It's like balancing a penny on edge: it's hard to start out with a perfect balance, and usually it falls one way or the other.  Same with this generator.  If there's a tiny electrical imbalance at the start, the generator will amplify it over and over, and the voltage will "fall over" to either one polarity or the other.  A high voltage will magically appear from nowhere.  (But nobody knows which side will start out positive and which will be negative.)

SPEEDING UP THE RECHARGE

 Whenever a spark discharges the generator, it also discharges the inducer rings.  As a result, the generator takes quite a while to "ramp up" to full voltage again.  This is exponential growth, and it's quite slow at first.  There are several possible ways to solve this problem (I haven't tried them, you be first!)  One solution is to insert very large resistors in series with the wires to the inducer rings (large = thousands of megohms).  Then always discharge only the collectors, not the inducers. The resistors will keep the inducers from instantly discharging.  If the inducers remain charged, then the generator will quickly recharge with a fast linear voltage curve rather than a slow exponential curve. High-value resistors are expensive, so perhaps try making your own resistors.  Use strips of paper with fine lines of india ink (india ink is conductive carbon.)

 Another possibility: rather than using resistors, instead insert high voltage diodes.  For example, use several 7,000-volt microwave oven diodes in series, available from Allied Electronics.  Orient the polarity of diodes to allow the Inducers to charge but not to discharge.  Diodes in one conductor should point upwards, and in the other conductor should point downwards.  This way the collectors will charge up the inducer rings, but when you discharge the collectors, the diodes will turn off and become nonconductors.  The excess charge on the inducer rings will remain high.  Also, if you use diodes, the generator polarity would always be predictable, since the generator would not function if the polarity became reversed.

 A third method: build a big generator, but don't connect the collectors to the inducers.  Then build a second tiny water-drop generator, and use it to charge up the inducers of the big generator.  Then always discharge only the collectors of the big generator, and leave the other metal parts alone.
 

 
 FLASHING A NEON BULB

 Once your machine is able to produce sparks, you can also make it flash a small neon lightbulb.  Normal flashlight bulbs won't work, you need a small neon "pilot light" bulb instead.  Obtain an "NE-2" or other similar neon light, the kind which looks like a short glass tube with two parallel wires inside and two bare wires sticking out of the glass. Hold the bulb by one wire, look at the tube, then use the other wire to touch one of the cans of your Kelvin device.  You should see a dim orange flash inside the bulb.  (It might help to turn off the lights and work in a dimly lit room.)  Hold one bulb wire, then use the other wire to touch the positive can, then the negative can, then the positive, and you should see a tiny orange flash each time.

 CONTINUOUSLY FLASHING BULB

 Don't connect the NE-2 bulb directly across the two generator wires.  It will short out the generator and prevent high voltage buildup.  You can make the generator automatically flash the neon bulb by making a "spark gap".  First twist one wire from the neon bulb around one of the generator's diagonal wires, then bend the wires so other short wire from the neon bulb is very close to the other generator wire ( but not touching).  Small sparks will occasionally jump across the small gap and flash the neon.  The smaller the gap, the faster (and dimmer) the flashing.  Try a 1/16 inch gap (1 mm) at first.  If it works, increase the distance to get slow, bright flashes.

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Re: Ultrasonic Nebulizer Array 3000mL per hour Cold Fog Generator WATER BURNS
« Reply #95 on: October 02, 2011, 07:13:52 am »
Wind generator based upon the Kelvin Generator.  Build two big parallel vertical metal screens the size of outdoor movie theater screens (or larger).  The upwind screen has coarse mesh, the downwind screen has fine mesh to gather water droplets.  Suspend them on insulators which are good for millions of volts.  Charge the upwind screen with a power supply. Spray a fine mist of water into the screens upwind, and let the wind push the spray through the screens.  The upwind screen will attract imbalanced charges into the sprayer tips, and the water droplets will have an imbalanced charge of opposite polarity.  The wind takes the place of gravity in the classic Lord Kelvin device.  Wind pushes charged water to the second, fine-mesh screen.  Water droplets touch this screen and deliver their charge. The wind is slowed by repulsion of the water mist, the upwind screen uses no current, and the downwind screen puts out amperes at millions of volts of electrical potential (amps times megavolts equals megawatts).  Simply step down the megavolts of DC, then convert it to AC.  Ta-da, a wind generator with no moving parts!  An artificial thunderstorm, harnessed as a commercial generator, powered by the wind.