Author Topic: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly  (Read 148420 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Moderator
  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 980
Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #96 on: October 15, 2009, 03:58:59 am »
Thank you, perfect :)

I went to a garage today, looking for a Ford Alternator, saw one there EXACTLY like Stan's, All the round holes in the back, and small rectangle holes around the edges, but it belonged to someone else so I couldn't get it. I'll hopefully get something to play with soon.

It would be expensive to build the cell that way with the tubes sunken into the bottom, expensive for that large diameter, thick, piece of Delrin. But stan always built his stuff to top notch quality.

He must have had some nice production to require a pump forcing the water through :)

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Sr. member
  • ***
  • Posts: 387
Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #97 on: October 15, 2009, 17:12:39 pm »
Thanks for all this
The vic coils are in the box,they are attached to each card.And they weren't torrids,but two "U" cores with seperate coils for each primary,secondary,feedback and two chokes,all seperate.It looks just like Stan draws in the diagrams.
SS chokes?  :)

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Moderator
  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 980
Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #98 on: October 17, 2009, 16:32:36 pm »
I picked up my Ford Alternator from the garage yesterday, they found me one, just like Stans :D. Took it apart, started cutting the wires off the stator... It'll take a few days work to get it cleaned up and rewound, and it'll take a week or two to get the diodes... It'll take a week or three to get the circuit board stuff figured out. With school and everything it'll go slower than I'd wish, but this is ground breaking progress!

The Rotary VIC is on it's way!

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Sr. member
  • ***
  • Posts: 434
Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #99 on: October 17, 2009, 17:15:57 pm »
I picked up my Ford Alternator from the garage yesterday, they found me one, just like Stans :D. Took it apart, started cutting the wires off the stator... It'll take a few days work to get it cleaned up and rewound, and it'll take a week or two to get the diodes... It'll take a week or three to get the circuit board stuff figured out. With school and everything it'll go slower than I'd wish, but this is ground breaking progress!

The Rotary VIC is on it's way!

Nice work donaldwfc, keep us (visual) informed about your progress.
Maybe it's handy we update the RVIC circuit schematic, how the Biffs and the Phases are wind in the stator for the first version:

- type of wire
- thickness of the wire
- how it's wound / Biff / Triff
- how many wounds
- type of diodes

I think the printed circuit board is not needed for the first version, we can solder the parts to the coil leads, saves time.
I don't want to destroy my citroen alternator windings at this moment before I figure out how this RVIC can be build step by step. :-\
But you are right, sometimes it's better to start building this ** thing for real and figure out how it actually can work as depicted in the patents.

Does it matter what type of Ford Alternator we are going to use (pickup truck)?

br,
Webmug


Offline Login to see usernames

  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2387
  • Testing
Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #100 on: October 17, 2009, 21:30:29 pm »
I picked up my Ford Alternator from the garage yesterday, they found me one, just like Stans :D. Took it apart, started cutting the wires off the stator... It'll take a few days work to get it cleaned up and rewound, and it'll take a week or two to get the diodes... It'll take a week or three to get the circuit board stuff figured out. With school and everything it'll go slower than I'd wish, but this is ground breaking progress!

The Rotary VIC is on it's way!

on a real alternator, if you Unwire one yourself,, you will see that one winding is wrapped opposite from the other 2.

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Moderator
  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 980
Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #101 on: October 18, 2009, 18:34:43 pm »
Everything to do the RVIC is explained here, all my diagrams and winding instructions are proven correct, except for the trifilar/bifilar detail, I don't know the wire gage, turns, or diodes yet, once I get the Stator cleared of the old windings (which is quite the job since I don't want to burn it off) then I can play around with how much wire I can fit in the coil holes, I said I'm thinking 30 gage, but I am not settled yet. The diodes I am thinking MUR1560, but I am not settled yet. I am thinking I'll wind the chokes bifilar and the secondary alone, and stick them in, this detail was clearly from the recent picture Dynodon posted.

The alternator I have looks almost exactly like Stan's, there are a few differences with the brushes, but everything else is the same, the alternator was easy to take apart and everything was simple and straight forward, I think Stan knew what he was looking for when he chose this alternator. It's a lot bigger than the Delco Remy too, it's huge!

I imagine you could use any alternator you want though, this one looks like it will be a 'nice' alternator to work with, everything is set up nice and simple, especially for all the input/output connections. I would say grab a new alternator so you don't have to destroy your old one. Then again, go right for the proper Ford Alternator, because if you're going to figure out Stan, you should follow the details as close as possible, I am clearly going to be happy working with this alternator over any other kind I could pull apart, I took apart a dodge alternator and it was fairly horrible compared to the Delco, and the Ford was the easiest by far.

I'll need to build a winding jig too, once I figure out the sizes and such for the coils.

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 128
Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #102 on: October 19, 2009, 21:16:36 pm »

Delco remy made, and still makes big alternators, but Stan choosed the one that was made for ordinary cars...like 1965 Chevrolet impala or 1969 Pontiac firebird or Cadillac deville (ordinary cars at that time ) The next alternator Stan used was a 24 Volt aircraft alternator.  :)

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Moderator
  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 980
Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #103 on: October 19, 2009, 23:42:42 pm »
What information do you have that stan used a 24 volt alternator? Pictures?