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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #80 on: October 13, 2009, 19:47:40 pm »
So he made 1 single design that must have taken forever to tune and just replicated .

10 tubes  , 10 VIC's , 10 PLL circuits

The only thing thats hard to tune to the cell is the very exotic VIC , the PLL is not that hard compared to tuning that VIC to the small cell , there is probably some impedance match with that VIC , it needs to be calculated .

Do you have the exact cell dimensions or that was taken away ?

The owner should take off one of these 11 boards and post it so we know how he was really pulsing that VIC .



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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #81 on: October 13, 2009, 23:21:57 pm »
In series resonance xl and xc must be = , current will be maximized and in phase @ the source and = to whatever your R component is . And voltage @ the borders of each reactive component will be maximized .

But the VIC has 2 parralel RLC networks that resonate ( do they ?? ) and one series rlc that also resonate , not too bad ... Problem is that the XC water component is a mystery , does it really provide a 90 degree extra phase shift ?? Its XC mixed with R paralell wich is actually in the water , the phase shift will be reduced by a good % , so more heat . Second problem , we are using a square inpulse with a diode ! DOPE ! Not an AC sine signal with no diode ... Or perhaps he is matching the really reduced XL-R//XC-R of the choke to match the really reduced XC//R component of the water bath and still getting his XC=XL series  :P

So basicly this means you have to factor in fourrier analysis is you wanna come close with just algebra on paper calculating the L and C components , the classical pi equations are no good here , and the diode ....  These two things makes this difficult .

Lets say you have to add mechanical vibration of w/e tubes you have , this will oscillate @ a fixed frequency . This reduces your movement so to speak to play with numbers , your frequency will have to be factored in when you calculate .

Illogical things I notice is that the inner winding capacitance will never be as big as the XL of the choke , this whole section (7-5 from tech brief ) looks like a pain to match , an outside capacitot may have to be used . I would be amazed if he was relying on the chokes capacitance for this , that too is another calculation .


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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #82 on: October 13, 2009, 23:40:35 pm »
I can't seem to get anymore pictures to post here.Lets see if this goes through ok.This site takes forever for my post to go through or even get on.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #83 on: October 13, 2009, 23:50:56 pm »
Tried three times and can't get anymore pics posted.Any reason why.The picture is 1.7 mb.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #84 on: October 14, 2009, 00:54:23 am »
Try creating a new thread and see, could be the File type, try converting it into a smaller jpeg or something, 1.7 MB is sure big for a photo so it must not be a jpeg?

The Server might need rebooting.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #85 on: October 14, 2009, 01:40:14 am »
Hi Don,

Can you try again? All signs here are green, so i am not sure what is happening.
Is the file without virus?
Can you send the file to my emailadres? Then i can check it.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #86 on: October 14, 2009, 09:12:49 am »
THANKS very much Dynodon !

Now it is much more clearer !
It is a certainty that Stan is using:

10 resonant cavities(tubes) with a VIC on each of them,
Also he is using phase locked loop circuitry for maintaining resonance on each cavity.
He also have a test jacks on each card, probably for checking out resonance using an oscilloscope.

This is my theory:
I think that he is charging water in a in a step by step manner. Cavities are connected in series.
As water passes from a cavity to the next one it gains a little charge when at resonance.
The effect may not be seen with a single tube setup because the amount of charge gained is little to show any significant gas production, however when water is charged through all the 10 resonant cavities (one after each other), Bingo ???

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #87 on: October 14, 2009, 10:32:30 am »
THANKS very much Dynodon !

Now it is much more clearer !
It is a certainty that Stan is using:

10 resonant cavities(tubes) with a VIC on each of them,
Also he is using phase locked loop circuitry for maintaining resonance on each cavity.
He also have a test jacks on each card, probably for checking out resonance using an oscilloscope.

This is my theory:
I think that he is charging water in a in a step by step manner. Cavities are connected in series.
As water passes from a cavity to the next one it gains a little charge when at resonance.
The effect may not be seen with a single tube setup because the amount of charge gained is little to show any significant gas production, however when water is charged through all the 10 resonant cavities (one after each other), Bingo ???


Very good out of the box thinking Hydrogenmask!