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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #360 on: June 23, 2011, 19:47:57 pm »
The figure of this graph is in the other page. where he shows that the gas is linearly dependent on the amperage for distilled water. By the way where in hell distilled water conduct 1 amp at 110v?


He also show another graph showing the production increase also linear with the inches... probably the tube have about 1 inch circunference...

. As the tubes has the circunference fixed the increase in length become almost linear for long tubes...




The most important figure is that he shows that the movement of the water reduce the amperage while producing the same amount of gas. Might also be the reason tubular set is better, in the end even without a pump the bubbles tend to go up pumping up the water.


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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #361 on: June 23, 2011, 23:34:42 pm »
i would say the amps across distilled water is dependnt on a few things  gap, surface area and voltage..

but Im not here to try and discredit Stan's analyzations.. I'm here to try and use them to prove stans process.. in the patent Stan actually compares power in to power produced..   I'm sorry that it just so happens that stan is trying to relate that the longer the surface area the more gasses per watt..


In a 6 inch cell how far does a transmission have to travel in the exciter plate? 6 inches! so that is all that wave was able to contribute too.. what happens to a wave at the end of the tube? it ends!..  so the longer we make a tube  the longer the wave can travel!!! the longer the voltage pulse wave can travel the more work it can do!! since it is interacting with more water.. it does not mean you need one long 50 foot tube to perform the task.. they can be cut down into an array which totals 50 feet..

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #362 on: June 24, 2011, 16:26:13 pm »
Outlawstc,


I'm not sure what wave you talk about, actually the things i said wasn't to discredit, i just wanted to ground the discussion, I just pointed out my opinion about the water circulation for the amp restriction, and pointed that stan in this patent seems was doing only simple electrolysis at least he did it to determine the geometrical dependences for electrolysis, even if he mention another patent, his focus was more around the synthgas... hydrgen airdation...


The wave i think go on is microwave and the gap of the cavity might be tuned to this... I believe for the water meyer was using the stimulated emission principle maser.


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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #363 on: June 24, 2011, 16:58:48 pm »
Stan was tuning into LC resonance to match the wavelength of the gap.. he allways claims to tune into a wavelength of a gap.. he never reffers to tuning into a atomic resonance for separating the water into gas.  But he does kinda refer to an electron resonance when speaking of hydrogen fracturing (gas ionization)  other then that he allways refers to tuning into the wavelength of the gap..  the only wavelength i can think of logical for the gap is a LC resonant wavelength..  based totally on exciter gap, surface area, the dielectric property of water, inductance and the like..

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« Reply #364 on: June 24, 2011, 17:57:21 pm »
A microwave oven 2,4GHz has a wavelength of 12.2 cm, water maser fundamental resonance is around 22GHz, and this is in 1/4 wave length 3,4mm... There are however many modes coming up to 96GHz witch would have a 1/2 wave around 1,5mm stans gap aproximatelly.


The lc is related i think to the spacial displacement of the ions, electrons... But i'm not sure on that... Stan stated so many things... seems more to be in accordance with the laser pulse repetition rate, commonly between 5khz and 10khz...


The time for transition of exited state to spontaneous emission is around 10^-8 seconds, so at least 100MHz frequency.. Lasers to get coherence needs to have more molecules in exited state, and is a matter of probability, so one never goes for the first transition to assure you get more atoms exited... To have stimulated emission you want all the atoms to emit in sync...


As i said water will emit laser but as its photons has low frequency of vibration, in the microwave infra-red range, its called maser. I think historically it came before the laser. Actually a laser is called an optical maser. Water Masers were observed in the universe...
 
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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #365 on: June 24, 2011, 18:28:34 pm »
Seb, im not gonna be playing with microwave frequencys. are you? if so i suggest being careful.... stan did not make a bunch of different claims.. here is his claims for resonance..

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« Reply #366 on: June 24, 2011, 19:29:16 pm »
I would go for high power density pulse laser to try inverting the population and let the energy bounce back inside the cavity at water microwave frequencies ... I believe some how this is how the amps are mainly restricted.. As the cavity can be made close i guess all the energy will remain inside as i don't want to focus it anywhere but there... The electric field will be provided by the two series lc pulsed circuit, having those diodes... I think there still the need for another power supply to deflect the right molecules into the cavity..



I think is important to understand how to select high energy state molecules to go into the cavity...


The cool thing is that a high energy state molecule get deflected in electro or magnetic fields in opposite direction to ground state molecules... isn't that amazing? 


Maybe that ground in the bottom of the cavity had this intention...


What lead me to think microwave is the word resonant cavity. There is not such thing for 10khz in terms of wave frequency... this would have km sizes...


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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #367 on: June 24, 2011, 19:53:24 pm »
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What lead me to think microwave is the word resonant cavity. There is not such thing for 10khz in terms of wave frequency... this would have km sizes...

Seb thats such a narrow observation to conclude that stan was using microwave frequencies for the electrical polarization process..   

Stan had a electrically charged molecular resonance that was in resonance with a electromagnetic resonance being transmitted yes.. but i by no means think he achieved this by tuning into any atomic frequencies that are in ghz range..