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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #352 on: March 23, 2011, 02:05:55 am »
yea, i've noticed some significant differences in the waveforms between combinations of running a single tube, or multiple tubes, or using three connected phases, or isolated phases, it changes the resonant frequency and the voltage output, more experimenting to be done in the summer, i'm still trying to decode these waveforms

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #353 on: June 21, 2011, 02:55:01 am »
Donald,
this is in response to your question on my 8xa circuit thread...

i suggest everyone with alternator versions to take interest in what im presenting..

this subject is in reference to stans canadian patent 1234774

Title: Hydrogen Generator System

I believe this patent describe the alternators version of stan's work.

Ok here is a example of Stans array tube set used with the alternator.. 
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/outlawstc/water%20fuel%20tech/anarray.jpg)



all tube sets are in parallel and you can turn off  and on each one..

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The rest of the figures show stans research results..

this one is showing

ELECTRICAL POWER VS H2O CONDITION VS GASGENERATED.jpg


(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/outlawstc/water%20fuel%20tech/ELECTRICALPOWERVERSESH2OCONDITIONVSGASGENERATED.jpg)
Notice the region between rain and city water.. Notice how at the rain water level of contamination that there is 1.2 - 8 amps but there is also a quantum leap in production rate of gas..

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GAS GENERATED VS DIFFERENT APPLIED VOLTAGES VS H2O CONDITIONS
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/outlawstc/water%20fuel%20tech/GASGENERATEDVSDIFFERENTAPPLIEDVOLTAGESVSH2OCONDITIONS.jpg)

This figure reveals a lot... it shows gas generation compared to voltage applied and the contaminate levels.. 
Notice how as voltage is increased the region of gas generation between rain and city becomes more and more vertical?  this means alot..
it means when higher voltage is applied gas generation does begin to reach for infinity with low amps applied..

also notice that amps begin after the rainto city water range.. notice how peak amps  Has the letter A and there is another line below with the letter B... 
A= no flowing water between the excitors..
B = flowing water between the excitors.


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GAS GENERATED VS APPLIED  VOLTAGE VS H2O TEMP

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/outlawstc/water%20fuel%20tech/GASGENERATEDVSAPPLIEDVOLTAGEVSH2OTEMP.jpg)

seems to me that 80 volts is the optimal temp range to maintain low temp and a dry gas???..


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EXCITER GEOMETRICAL CONFIGURATION
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/outlawstc/water%20fuel%20tech/EXCITERGEOMETRICALCONFIGURATION.jpg)

this one is explain how you get 3.75 times more production with a plate or ring array...  tubes are the only way to go if your looking for efficiency...



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GAS GENERATED VS EXCITER TUBE LENGTH
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/outlawstc/water%20fuel%20tech/GASGENERATEDVSEXCITERTUBELENGTH.jpg)

notice that production at 2.5 foot of tube is 456 cubic inches per hour
then notice the next example up is 120watts with 10 foot of exciter tube length.... notice that at 10 foot it begins to climb verticle for production rate..

Stan had an array that had over 10 feet of tube in it.. and as he increased above 10feet production climbed vertically!!! this is important to grasp.


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GAS GENERATED VS ELECTRICAL POWER VS NON CONTAMINATED WATER

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/outlawstc/water%20fuel%20tech/GASGENERATEDVSELECTRICALPOWERVSNONCONTAMINATEDWATER.jpg)


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GAS  GENERATED VS ELECTRICAL COST.
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/outlawstc/water%20fuel%20tech/GASGENERATEDVSELECTRICALCOST.jpg)

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Stans Boiler setup
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/outlawstc/water%20fuel%20tech/boilersetup.jpg)

Note that the tubes have to be longer then proposed in this drawing in order to run a 50 hp motor..


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(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/outlawstc/water%20fuel%20tech/waterseparation.jpg)

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #354 on: June 22, 2011, 16:38:24 pm »
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/outlawstc/water%20fuel%20tech/GASGENERATEDVSEXCITERTUBELENGTH.jpg)


Basic Analyzation of Stan's chart,

3 foot of exciter tube with 84 watts will produce 456 cubic inches of fuel gas per hour
10 foot of exciter tube with 120 watts will produce 2700 cubic inches of fuel gas per hour

456 cubic inches = 7.47 liters of gas in 1 hour with 84 watts applied
7.47 liters = 124.5 ml a minute

10 foot of exciter produces 2700 cubic inch  = 44.24 liters of fuel gas in 1 hour with 120 watts applied
44.24 liters per hour = 737.3ml a minute..

This is whats important to notice.....

3 foot of tube will produce 456 cubic inches with 84 watts right?    456 cubic" / 84 watts = 5.4 cubic inches of gas production per watt!!!!

10 foot of tube will produce 2700 cubic inches with 120 watts right?   2700 cubic" / 120 watts = 22.5 cubic inches of gas production  per watt!!!!!!!


so with a extension of tubular surface area by increasing the length you are enabling more bang for your watt..
 a 7 foot difference enabled a gain of 17 cubic inches per watt.... so when you think of stans boiler cell... think of a container that has like 50 1 foot tube sets in it... imagine 50 foot of tube with 700 watts..


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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #355 on: June 23, 2011, 14:25:48 pm »
3 foot of tube will produce 456 cubic inches with 84 watts right?    456 cubic" / 84 watts = 5.4 cubic inches of gas production per watt!!!!

10 foot of tube will produce 2700 cubic inches with 120 watts right?   2700 cubic" / 120 watts = 22.5 cubic inches of gas production  per watt!!!!!!!

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #356 on: June 23, 2011, 15:04:52 pm »
1 mole of water should need minimally about 60 watts of electrical energy to become 33 liters of gas. 33liters = about 2000 cubic inches... so theoretically you should minimally at 100% efficient electrolysis have at least 33cubic inches per watt.


So meyer is showing with this graph that the greater is the surface the greater is the efficiency, so he is saying that the smaller is the amps per surface the better it is.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #357 on: June 23, 2011, 18:16:04 pm »
This is known as Exponential Growth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_growth

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #358 on: June 23, 2011, 19:18:53 pm »
I'm not sure if this graph means that if you have 1000inches tube you could get over-unity. It's not clear. I believe it would grow up only to a certain limit witch in this case could be the theoretically maximum allowed energy needed for electrolysis. If you analyze it well it could set only a limit of maximum exciter surface relative to the watts... Probably the best figure of efficiency amps per square cm-.. like.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #359 on: June 23, 2011, 19:35:32 pm »
I guess the best way to see it is the more surface area there is.. The more area there is for the traveling waves to effect..

This is what we need to do,

we need to know one of the following 2

1) The inductance of each phase of a regular non rewound alternator
or
2) the inductance of the positive choke within the rewound alternator..

the inductance of each phase should be close to the same...


you need to take a scope reading of your alternators output frequency since it is dependent on rotors rotation speed..

so we have to set variables..

1) inductance
2) frequency..

we must now match capacitance to the 2 set varables..


this will allow your inductor to resonate at the same freq as the alternator pulsing...
and you will have LC resonance at the same time..


or you could have an exterior bifilar choke possibly..

measure its inductance...
measure the alternators output frequnecy
match capacitance...
 add a scr between the alternator and choke and you could gate the LC resonant signal if  you want...


just some ideas...

all of us who have the alternator versions need to figure out how we can obtain around 20 foot of inner and outter stainless tube.. and make a array of 20 one foot tube sets.. then figure out what arangement the array needs to be in (series/ or parrallel) in order to bring the capacitance into the range needed top allow LC resonance...