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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #304 on: February 05, 2010, 04:31:58 am »
those look like some thick tubes!!! What guage are they? FYI I havent given up on anything here i have just been stuck paying attention to life for a while... You know stuff like putting food on the table etc. Im accually working on some possible grant money to fund my project as well. Soon as i do anything ill update.

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« Reply #305 on: February 05, 2010, 04:39:33 am »
Good to hear you are still [interested in] working on the WFC technology! I still didn't get my quenching circuit nozzles made, although without an alternator hooked up I can't make any gas right now anyway :P

I was just about to grab a caliper and measure the tube thickness, then I looked at my cell an noticed it was full of water. I will find out how thick they are next time I empty it. I think the outside tube is 1/16th inch and the inside tube is less than that... It has a 1/16th inch gap.

You can see the SS tabs that hold the outer tubes in position... they are only 0.030 inch, and they hold them without any spacers, and are able to vibrate freely exceptionally well.

Did you sell your Tubular Array? Have any results on your quenching circuits?

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #306 on: February 05, 2010, 09:08:41 am »
I have the cell cleaned up, and the front of the alternator mounted, I need to finish up some electrical connections and get it all together. Finding the time I need to get this done is hard with school, and a bunch of other stuff on the go, but it's getting exciting.

It looks like its time to start your engine, sir....


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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #307 on: February 05, 2010, 19:24:18 pm »
don,
my rotor measures 3.21 ohms

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #308 on: February 06, 2010, 15:30:21 pm »
I measured the resistance of my rotor, 2.9 Ohms.

Stan says in the first dune buggy idle video "5 volts and 2 amps, 10 watts" ... that means the resistance of his rotor was at most 2.5 Ohms.

If I put 5 volts across my rotor I will get 1.72 Amps.

To anyone who has an alternator... can you measure your rotor's resistance please? I would like to see if this matters at all, considering the possibility of rewinding the rotor with a lower resistance.
My alternator rotor measures 79,8ohms. Don't know this helps you... ::)

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #309 on: February 06, 2010, 17:16:29 pm »
79.8 Ohms ???

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #310 on: February 06, 2010, 18:59:57 pm »
25 ohms here......strange is it

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #311 on: February 06, 2010, 20:12:46 pm »
49 Ohms for the rotor of my delco remy... measured from the input posts.
when i measured the resistance on my motorcraft alternator I measured from the slip rings.

I wonder what this has to do with the function of the alternator, or the function of the RVIC

I have been doing some thinking, and some measurements on some pictures, and I agree with Dynodon, that Stan's RVIC used 18 gage wire, and Stan's chokes in the plate cell also used 18 gage wire. Now I am thinking more in the context of comparing the RVIC to the plate cell VIC.

Why use 18 gage wire? It's pretty thick wire. It allows amps through...

18 gage wire has 6.358 Ohms/1000 feet, compared to the 30 gage wire I used which has 103.2 Ohms/1000 feet

I have about 2800 feet of wire in the RVIC ~ 96 ohms/phase
Stan's RVIC... at a rough guess ~ 0.6 to 0.7 ohms per phase
In the chokes for the plate cell VIC a rough guess would be ~ 0.2 ohms
The plate cell Chokes have 28*4 = 112 turns in total

I have 50 turns per loop of 30 gage (0.010")
Kevin says 30 turns per loop of 24 gage (0.020")
A guess would be 15-18 turns of 18 gage (0.040")

Which means he has 5-6 turns per loop per coil, so 60-72 turns per coil, 180-216 turns per phase, 1130-1356 feet of wire per phase.

Why use 18 gage wire? Yes, this is the early system, start simple, get it to work... then improve on that...

This would certainly be easier to make, only 540-648 turns for the whole alternator, compared with 5400 turns in mine... KISS...

I think I will try and get another alternator or another stator and wind an RVIC with 18 gage wire... test that as well as the 30 gage...