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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #232 on: January 01, 2010, 02:21:52 am »
Here is a double wound coil for the bifilar chokes

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/Picture40-1.png)

And here are all my coils!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/Picture41-1.png)

Next up is cleaning up the alternator and stator, then filling the stator.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #233 on: January 01, 2010, 02:40:28 am »
Great Work! I'm still not fully understanding how you are winding the chokes. I'm slow and as you know, I have a totally different idea of how I was doing it. The chokes are wound with each phase? Or separately and inserted after the phases are? Sorry for my confusion.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #234 on: January 01, 2010, 11:03:54 am »
that is correct bubz 3 wires in series in each phase all have the same pole orientation allowing each wire to aid the other in moving the electrons... all 2 of the 3 are wound bifilar while the 3 being the secondary are wound seperate then all  are placed in the core .

i noticed three thing that must be observed...  1 is the rotary board that we have a clear pic of does not match the one in the pic below. it may be the same config but it looks somewhat diff up by the diodes on the rotary vic board below..2nd is if you zoom in and look real closely you will see that there is a noticable bigger gauge wire,  the wire seem to look single strand and i really havent came to conclusion on how he wound it on there yet..  some spots it looks liek it may twist around  the smaller gauge.. some it looks like it shoots to the other side through the core window...  anyways im woundering if stan used heavier gauge for his secondary... heavy gauge which will have less amplitude when it comes to gaining by turns of a coil, but but has the advantage of displacing more electrons then the smaller wire with less amps required...   
imagine they have always had us focus amps in such a general form... amps can be looked at as how many electrons pass a perpendicular line to current  in a wire... how many pass that line in as given second...  there are bigger views then just seeing that... what is the speed of the current...  amps sounds like speed of current but is not... amps is just a count of how many electrons are passing through the meter from a observable point..
amps is a variable of the equation of figuring out just tha.. the speed of moving charge in a wire... not the count but the speed... your variables are amps and wire dia..   

example   10awg measuring  2 amps current has a equal speed of traveling charge in the wire as 20 awg measuring 1 amp current

third,  now on the pic below zoom in and look up by the diodes on the right side... notice the spot on the stator where its black.. to me it seems stan didnt wind all the way around the core.. it looks like he left it open more  like a C... .. .. to leave a gap seems like it would enhance capacitating the charge
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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #235 on: January 01, 2010, 18:27:06 pm »
That circuit board is the original, made back in 1980 or 81, and the other circuit board we have pictures of were made in 1996 I believe. There is a slight difference, but I think they are the same form and function. Dudley says he has the new boards from 1996.

Bubz,

I wound 12 loops with 50 turns each loop, this makes up a secondary, I made 3 of these.

Then, I would 12 loops, with 50 turns each loop, with TWO wires feeding in at the same time, this makes up the bifilar chokes.

I am going to pair 1 secondary coil with 1 double wound coil, this will make up a single phase (secondary + bifilar chokes)

Put them in the stator right next to eachother as if it was a single bunch of wires.

Do the above 3 times, so you have 3 phases in your stator.

You'll have 18 wire-ends, (well labeled of course...), and then connect them up in series and with your diodes, and then pull the positive and negative out of the alternator.

I'll show more pictures as I make more progress, and help you with any questions you have so you can understand how it works.

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #236 on: January 01, 2010, 19:43:08 pm »
donald, i see your perspective clearly and it has been mine as well for the past couple weeks... but the more i investigate the 96 pic i have came to a new hypothisis...i have been trying to understand how he wound it from the pic and what im seeing is quiet interesting...  to me from what i can clarify out of thought and observation stan only has one phase of chokes on the alternator... they are installed how you are going to do it and the secondary goes through every window he only has 11 loops leaving the ends of each wind from interation with the begining  i think... what i see is if you look at the rotor poles dimensions  they are the width of window to window for a single phase wind.. im thinking that single phase of chokes will take on a 50 percent duty as them poles spin by...  but the most interesting thought is stan incorperate what i think is the secondary and is a thicker wire into all windows... so i think the secondary is constantly displacing (DC) while allow the chokes take on the duty cycle oscillation... the secondary being in all windows will not allow for the fall of the chokes during continual displacement  (frequency of chokes)..  this is what im seeing from the unclear photo..

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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #237 on: January 01, 2010, 21:13:35 pm »
Well everyone, I got a chance to look inside the alternator.Turns out someone had got to it.The alternator there is nothing more than a stock rebuilt one.Stan's wife had let someone take it once,and he must have swapped out the real one and kept it.So we're not going to see the original,it's history.We'll try to track it down.So we weren't able to make a new video of it working.
We'll make one of the Plate cell soon.
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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #238 on: January 02, 2010, 01:08:48 am »
note... i think i might alter this a bit still i see some contradictions and still need to think on it more but i have a feeling this style is gonna be suitable for maintaining displacment within the chokes while provding a 50 percent duty cycle... i will have my revised done shortly...


ok guys this is a pretty interesting perspective i have come up with about how i think stan wound his alternator..   i have attached 2 drawings.. they are both the same idea one is just simplified to see how they are connected beginning and end.  BLUE represents the secondary... RED= pos choke. and BLACK= neg choke.....   

they can all be wound in this manner to aid each other..... i think the chokes are heavier gauge and they go through 33 consecutive windows in a weaving action as shown in the drawing..  think the secondary is in every 3 windows being 30 degree spaced having 11 total, not 12.. 11 X 30= 330 degrees...

so within 330 degrees you have 11 windows used for secondary and 33 windows for the weaving chokes..  what does this do????  i think it allows chokes to have 3 times more interaction then the secondary in a distributed interaction sense to the rotors field... i think this will cause effect of creating a more pure dc signal in the chokes... while the secondarys will be generating a 50 percent duty waveform due to its 30 degree window spacing and how the dimensions of the rotor are proprtionaly spaced to create a 50 percent duty sine.. 


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Re: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly
« Reply #239 on: January 02, 2010, 02:31:27 am »
Donald and Outlaw, thank you much for your time and explanation! I understand perfectly now.  At least I think so... lol!

Dynodon, was this stock alternator correctly attached and functional. I'm curious as to how you came to the conclusion the alternator was swapped out. Is it possible it was really just a stock alternator all this time? Just like the documents show? Now I begin to wonder also, what other equipment has been tampered with. I hope the plate cell is all there and working. That would be the better one to study if we had a choice between the two, I would imagine. What other things are there that can be tested? How much documentation is there to read? Is the owner going to release any of the printed information? If you have the time, I would love to know about the status of this equipment and the sale of it, etc. If for some chance the deals fell through and the sale is re-opened, I would like to know.

Happy New Year! 1-1-10, next year will be 1-1-11!