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Re: AC electrolysis
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2009, 10:16:00 am »
if you use more tubes in series to get ~2V at each they won't get hot while getting the same current for electrolysis.

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Re: AC electrolysis
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2009, 03:57:20 am »
Hi Haither I have an idea on that which I'd like to try sometime having to do with endothermic electrolysis.  I didn't have much luck previously on stringing tubes in series so I've stuck to parallel wiring for now.

I wasn't able to daisy chain a pwm in the circuit I think I'd need a dc solid state relay.  Been meaning to pick one up for a while.  All in all results have been interesting but not earth shattering no increase in production more or less the same and the usual increase of temperature over time.  Would still like to investigate water circulation in the cell but need a 3/8" pipe tap.  There's about 2 feet of snow on the ground outside so I missed my time window.

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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2009, 22:01:47 pm »
Just to update I did manage to wire tubes in series with voltage around 6-7 volts; temperature stabilized from 70F to 90F but production was diminished.  I then tried to run half the tubes via pwm and induce voltage using a bifilar coil but got no induction.  pwm is rated at max 3 khz.  I think that's it.  Happy Holidays to everyone.

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Re: AC electrolysis
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2009, 22:17:02 pm »
I wanted to reacquaint myself with molecular oxygen and came across this in wikipedia's entry:

"Oxygen gas can also be produced through electrolysis of water into molecular oxygen and hydrogen. DC electricity must be used: if AC is used, the gases in each limb consist of hydrogen and oxygen in the explosive ratio 2:1. Contrary to popular belief, the 2:1 ratio observed in the DC electrolysis of acidified water does not prove that the empirical formula of water is H2O unless certain assumptions are made about the molecular formulae of hydrogen and oxygen themselves."

and here I thought use of AC would generate steam.  It may be the wikipedia entry is in error.  I don't know.

The reason I was looking into it was I was wondering where the electrons were coming from in a hydrogen fuel cell when H2 is combined with atmospheric O2.  If 2 molecules of each electrically neutral gas is combined to form 2 molecules of electrically neutral H2O molecule where are the electrons produced coming from?

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Re: AC electrolysis
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2010, 06:19:45 am »
AC Electrolysis is very possible, what do  you think Stan Meyer's was doing!!!  He used a digital circuit to produce an AC waveform across the WFC.  That's the reason his chokes where connected 180 degrees apart from the cell, so that it would produce an AC output.

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Re: AC electrolysis
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2010, 06:58:37 am »
Anyone know where i can sign up to get 5 cents for everytime some claims that Stan Meyers was doing something specific???

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Re: AC electrolysis
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2010, 07:06:43 am »
You dont think thats what he was doing? I know what Im talking about here, Im an electronics engineer, what about you?

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Re: AC electrolysis
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2010, 07:10:30 am »
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