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Re: Geet project of Steve
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2009, 22:26:29 pm »
Stevie ,

make public on ionization a nicely illustrated BIG motor "THAT WORKS" geet guide , with pantone phone dimentions and everything .

And I'll ship you a FREE MASTER OSCILLATOR , assembled with love in a metal box with all the military switches I "was" gonna buy but dropped the idea , besides for mine ofc ;D .... Good for life , everything will be exposed for you  Stevie .

A total value of HUGE and EXCLUSIVE for only the most trusted ...
 
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Re: Geet project of Steve
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2009, 00:51:51 am »
Well Dankie,

I am at a stage that i havent ran any geet, so i cannot comment on anything on that.
I have made my mind up on ideas from others and putting that into this geet setup of mine.
If it really makes some kind of plasma and if it works with my waterfuelcell, then who knows...

Steve

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« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2009, 21:40:10 pm »
Hi everyone! You now have another crazy South African on your forums!  ;D

From my research it seems that the Geet is a Autothermal Reactor with a 'magnet?' thrown in as an unknown.

Here a link to Renault's plasma research, which I still have to read:
http://www.cder.dz/a2h2/Medias/Download/Proc%20PDF/PARALLEL%20SESSIONS/%5BS06%5D%20Production%20-%20Hydrocarbons/14-06-06/162.pdf

Now back to established tech:

Autothermal Reformation is a combination of Steam Reformation and Partial Oxidation:

Steam Reformation is the reacting of a Hydrocarbon with steam to produce Syngas.
HC + H20 + heat = H2 + CO (CO burns)
This reaction is endothermic (needs heat) and produces H2 and CO in a ratio of around 2.5 to 1.

Partial Oxidation is the reacting of a Hydrocarbon with Oxygen to produce Syngas.
HC + O2 = H2 + CO + heat
This reaction is exothermic (produces heat) and produces H2 and CO in a ratio of around 1 to 1.

The fact that one reaction is exothermic and the other is endothermic is very important to the use of this basic technology in a car:
Heat and temperature are two different things.
There is plenty of waste heat in a car exhaust, but the exhaust temperature is slightly low for the Steam Reformation reaction.
The partial oxidation reaction increases the temperature.

There is also Pyrolysis of the fuel in the Geet:
The fuel is gassified by heat; which is a known way to improve economy.

Its my considered opinion that the Geet can be improved by nickel plating the inner tube and magnet:
Nickel acts as a catayst in steam reformation.

Also; I think the use of an intercooler will increase the volume of gas that gets into the cylinder; improving power.
The cooler gasses will also be less suspectable to pre-ignition and prevent overheating.

I feel that the bubbler is just the simplest method of getting a 2 to 1 mixture of water and fuel into the engine.
There are better, but more complex, ways of getting this water/hydrocarbon mix into the engine if you are interested.

Good luck Steve.
I see no reason why this should not work for a genset.

If you plan to use this at home you can use some more of the waste heat to pre-heat the water going to your geyser.
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Re: Geet project of Steve
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2009, 23:43:52 pm »
Hi everyone! You now have another crazy South African on your forums!  ;D

From my research it seems that the Geet is a Autothermal Reactor with a 'magnet?' thrown in as an unknown.

Here a link to Renault's plasma research, which I still have to read:
http://www.cder.dz/a2h2/Medias/Download/Proc%20PDF/PARALLEL%20SESSIONS/%5BS06%5D%20Production%20-%20Hydrocarbons/14-06-06/162.pdf

Now back to established tech:

Autothermal Reformation is a combination of Steam Reformation and Partial Oxidation:

Steam Reformation is the reacting of a Hydrocarbon with steam to produce Syngas.
HC + H20 + heat = H2 + CO (CO burns)
This reaction is endothermic (needs heat) and produces H2 and CO in a ratio of around 2.5 to 1.

Partial Oxidation is the reacting of a Hydrocarbon with Oxygen to produce Syngas.
HC + O2 = H2 + CO + heat
This reaction is exothermic (produces heat) and produces H2 and CO in a ratio of around 1 to 1.

The fact that one reaction is exothermic and the other is endothermic is very important to the use of this basic technology in a car:
Heat and temperature are two different things.
There is plenty of waste heat in a car exhaust, but the exhaust temperature is slightly low for the Steam Reformation reaction.
The partial oxidation reaction increases the temperature.

There is also Pyrolysis of the fuel in the Geet:
The fuel is gassified by heat; which is a known way to improve economy.

Its my considered opinion that the Geet can be improved by nickel plating the inner tube and magnet:
Nickel acts as a catayst in steam reformation.

Also; I think the use of an intercooler will increase the volume of gas that gets into the cylinder; improving power.
The cooler gasses will also be less suspectable to pre-ignition and prevent overheating.

I feel that the bubbler is just the simplest method of getting a 2 to 1 mixture of water and fuel into the engine.
There are better, but more complex, ways of getting this water/hydrocarbon mix into the engine if you are interested.

Good luck Steve.
I see no reason why this should not work for a genset.

If you plan to use this at home you can use some more of the waste heat to pre-heat the water going to your geyser.
 :)

Hi Logic and welcome here.
So you are from SA, like Wouter. Maybe we should continue in Dutch... ;)

I am glad you think a Geet will work on my gen set.
Your explanation is a nice one. As fas as i have learned from Paul P. there have been many professors trying to find out why it was working, and nobody could really explain what is happening.
So lets wait and see what my test will bring..

Steve


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Re: Geet project of Steve
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2009, 23:51:30 pm »
Well Dankie,

I am at a stage that i havent ran any geet, so i cannot comment on anything on that.
I have made my mind up on ideas from others and putting that into this geet setup of mine.
If it really makes some kind of plasma and if it works with my waterfuelcell, then who knows...

Steve

I know it will take time Steve .

I want this for a small car engine , a big GEET , I dont have enough tools or a garage to start messing with this . So I am hiring you with an goodie . You give me something goodie give I you something goodie , and everybody is happy , including a more than the others happy and proud Stevie :)

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Re: Geet project of Steve
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2009, 17:08:27 pm »
Parts are finisched.
Here are some pictures.

Still need a bubler and some hoses, but that is the easy part.

Steve

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Re: Geet project of Steve
« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2009, 01:14:20 am »
Good stuff Steve!  :)

I look forward to testing

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Re: Geet project of Steve, first run
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2009, 14:52:42 pm »
Hi folks,

Today was the big day.
All components took much time to make it all fit. Vacuumleaks are killing.
The engine ran after 2 pulls on the powercord!!!!!!! Just out of the box! :)
That was very encouraging. 8)
I started with a 50% water and 50% petrol mix.
First tests proved a double running time compared to the standard carburator setup.
The bubler got cold by the vacuum.
There was clearly a magnetic field.
Next test will be used motoroil and water. See what that brings.
Still need to do some tuning on the rod.

I made some video's, so go have a look.

Steve