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Converting Ortho hydrogen into para hydrogen
« on: July 24, 2009, 17:10:49 pm »
Hi,

Against the opinion of many researchers, my theory is to get as much PARA hydrogen as we can from our wfc's.
After watching Stans vids for the X many times, he clearly states that he found a way to lower to burnrate of hydrogen to match the burnrate of petrol.
There are some ways to get that done, but the most close to all his storys and close to the XOGEN patents is the PARA hydrogen story.
Here is an attachment of a way to convert ortho into para hydrogen..

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Re: Converting Ortho hydrogen into para hydrogen
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2009, 17:20:03 pm »
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Ortho-Para conversion
This can be accomplished using a number of catalysts
including activated carbon, platinized asbestos, ferric
oxide, rare earth metals, uranium compounds,
chromic oxide, and some nickel compounds (IS PART OF 304 SS, AND WILL ACT AS CATALIST?)

extra
Activated charcoal is used most commonly, but ferric
oxide is also an inexpensive alternative

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Re: Converting Ortho hydrogen into para hydrogen
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2009, 17:21:55 pm »
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Re: Converting Ortho hydrogen into para hydrogen
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2009, 17:33:40 pm »
This is what Brittancia says abou this:

Physical and chemical properties » Ortho-hydrogen and para-hydrogen
Two types of molecular hydrogen (ortho and para) are known. These differ in the magnetic interactions of the protons due to the spinning motions of the protons. In ortho-hydrogen, the spins of both protons are aligned in the same direction—that is, they are parallel. In para-hydrogen, the spins are aligned in opposite directions and are therefore antiparallel. The relationship of spin alignments determines the magnetic properties of the atoms. Normally, transformations of one type into the other (i.e., conversions between ortho and para molecules) do not occur and ortho-hydrogen and para-hydrogen can be regarded as two distinct modifications of hydrogen. The two forms may, however, interconvert under certain conditions. Equilibrium between the two forms can be established in several ways. One of these is by the introduction of catalysts (such as activated charcoal or various paramagnetic substances); another method is to apply an electrical discharge to the gas or to heat it to a high temperature.

The concentration of para-hydrogen in a mixture that has achieved equilibrium between the two forms depends on the temperature as shown by the following figures:


 
Essentially pure para-hydrogen can be produced by bringing the mixture into contact with charcoal at the temperature of liquid hydrogen; this converts all the ortho-hydrogen into para-hydrogen. The ortho-hydrogen, on the other hand, cannot be prepared directly from the mixture because the concentration of para-hydrogen is never less than 25 percent.

The two forms of hydrogen have slightly different physical properties. The melting point of para-hydrogen is 0.10° lower than that of a 3:1 mixture of ortho-hydrogen and para-hydrogen. At ?252.77° C the pressure exerted by the vapour over liquid para-hydrogen is 1.035 atmospheres (one atmosphere is the pressure of the atmosphere at sea level under standard conditions, equal to about 14.69 pounds per square inch), compared with 1.000 atmosphere for the vapour pressure of the 3:1 ortho–para mixture. As a result of the different vapour pressures of para-hydrogen and ortho-hydrogen, these forms of hydrogen can be separated by low-temperature gas chromatography, an analytical process that separates different atomic and molecular species on the basis of their differing volatilities.


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Re: Converting Ortho hydrogen into para hydrogen
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2009, 22:45:27 pm »
The european patent of Xogen explains it pretty good.
Has anybody ever tried that coil on top of his tube and compared the gas?

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Re: Converting Ortho hydrogen into para hydrogen
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2009, 03:21:03 am »
Stephen> Stan

He used a digital 3 phase oscillator or just a square wave 50/50 pulse .


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Re: Converting Ortho hydrogen into para hydrogen
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2009, 10:13:28 am »
Stephen> Stan

He used a digital 3 phase oscillator or just a square wave 50/50 pulse .

Whats the relationship to that coil on top of electrodes for producing para hydrogen?

Steve