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« on: July 13, 2009, 11:14:35 am »
This is not a combustion process! Stoichiometric combustion of H and O (H2 -->O) creates a white/orange flame. What we are seeing here is Stan's "ION flame". Where hydrogen is solely responsible for the color emission we see.

This is Atomic Hydrogen....and it is what Stan ultimately did with his gasses from "Stage 1"

I will now prove it is Atomic Hydrogen...and that it is the SAME process Stan was using to run a car on it.

Pg 20 (of the pdf reader)....lines 6-40 on the left side of the page....


(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/Jdub6d9/StansIons.jpg)

AKA...Atomic Hydrogen.....

Congratz Aussepom...NO LONGER THEORY!!!! (never was theory...ppl are just blind)

I have attempted to get people to look at this MOST CRUCIAL point...to no avail, I believe now seeing the awesome nature of Atomic Hydrogen they will begin to see it. (The "forest through the trees" that is ;) )

Stan is genius...he used the electron defficient O3 molecule to act as his "bump down" energy sink to get Atomic hydrogen to form back down to Molecular hydrogen...it's INGENIOUS!!!!!!!!

The beautiful part is that the O3 is made at the same time through H.V. ionization :)

Now, to get your system up to par with Stan...you need to look into his chokes that limit electron flow from power circuit through the "dead short" arc in your steam there.
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2009, 23:02:37 pm »
This is not a combustion process! Stoichiometric combustion of H and O (H2 -->O) creates a white/orange flame. What we are seeing here is Stan's "ION flame". Where hydrogen is solely responsible for the color emission we see.

This is Atomic Hydrogen....and it is what Stan ultimately did with his gasses from "Stage 1"

I will now prove it is Atomic Hydrogen...and that it is the SAME process Stan was using to run a car on it.

Pg 20 (of the pdf reader)....lines 6-40 on the left side of the page....


(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/Jdub6d9/StansIons.jpg)

AKA...Atomic Hydrogen.....

Congratz Aussepom...NO LONGER THEORY!!!! (never was theory...ppl are just blind)

I have attempted to get people to look at this MOST CRUCIAL point...to no avail, I believe now seeing the awesome nature of Atomic Hydrogen they will begin to see it. (The "forest through the trees" that is ;) )

Stan is genius...he used the electron defficient O3 molecule to act as his "bump down" energy sink to get Atomic hydrogen to form back down to Molecular hydrogen...it's INGENIOUS!!!!!!!!

The beautiful part is that the O3 is made at the same time through H.V. ionization :)

Now, to get your system up to par with Stan...you need to look into his chokes that limit electron flow from power circuit through the "dead short" arc in your steam there.

Thats Great! But this is aussepom's Invention. He did not find it in a book, And I'm pretty certain that nobody came to aussies place to show him how to do this setup. I'm also sure Aussie has many many hours in even getting this device to work. Stan had lots of devices, But, he did not give any instructions on how to completly make any of them. Aussie took the time to experiment and learn, And this device is what Aussie has to share with you, Therefor, This is NOT stans device, It's True inventor is Aussie, Assuming he didn't get the ideal from the already working Plasma machine thats very simular, Allthough a plasma can not do what assues device is doing.

My recomendations was to add a burner to reduce flame temp allowing aussie to cut back on his production uses and reduction in power usage also. If aussie chooses to do that because i Thrown some patent at him, and he succeeds, Will you then call this Stans hydrogen gas burner?

NO, Stan didn't make it, Aussie did. Doesn't matter if aussie was looking threw stans patents or not, Stan gave no direct instructions.

It also may be described as all the references in your post, I'm just pointing out that aussie is to be credited here, Not Stanley A. Meyer, Thats all i'm saying and nothing more.

I can only thank aussie for sharing, Much appreaciated.

Good day
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2009, 14:05:34 pm »
You must realize that if this effect is exactly what meyer got, that it adds up to stan's credibility.

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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2009, 14:31:21 pm »
@Aussepom,

Your device is very interesting.

Have you posted any details at all on this device other than these videos?  If so can you direct me to where I can find them?

From what I am seeing on the videos,  the device simply injects a water mist through a plasma arc. The supply is a standard plasma arc unit.

Is that correct?






 

 

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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2009, 18:31:33 pm »
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Are you serious??...I'm sure he was just...."Oh lets make a plasma flame from water and air" just randomly out of nowhere huh? Even though he belongs to a STAN MEYER FORUM....bet he never read a single Stan Meyer patent...no way!!? ??? ,,,,GET REAL!

Just as Stan's injector worked and looked remarkably like a plasma cutter.....hmmm so does Aussepom's (hmmm plamsa cutter power supply?)...I'm not saying he built the same exact thing...but, it operates on the same principles...and I am sure with time Aussepom will tell you so.

If you understand the Stan text I posted above....you should see how similar they are...Aussepom is supplying air and water....and arcing through it to create atomic hydrogen ions and O3 (ozone) ions....it's EXACTLY THE SAME

Line 36-41 put it in as blunt terms as possible...once you ACTUALLY STUDY the accepted scientific phenomena known as "Atomic Hydrogen", you will realize it's not a theory at all, and in fact is widely known about in the scientific community. Then (presuming you know "Atomic Theory") you will realize that it is actually an easy process. Hydrogen only has one outer electron equal to it's one inner proton. This produces as charged balanced atom...but, there is a problem, the lone electron does not equal the mass and creates an unstable orbit. This is the reason atoms prefer full outer "Valence" shells (orbits), so Hydrogen links up to a MOLECULE of Hydrogen with itself (hydrogen surrounded by hydrogen).

So, in nature (on Earth) hydrogen does not exist as a single atom (every element on Earth has already reacted and balanced out)....it is however possible to recreate environments found in space, see space is full of high energy particles as Lance Armstrong saw "Z" particles that shot through the spaceships hull...anyway, we see now that Hydrogen needs a full outer valence shell, and for the 1st shell, you only need two electrons, so hydrogen only needs one extra electron to support single atom state. An arc is a literal "sea of electrons"....there are so many free electrons in an arc it's rediculous. Well, if you pass a hydrogen molecule through an arc, two things happen. First the molecule absorbs infrared wave, or "heat" energy. The heat expands the molecule to a larger size (most elements expand when heated)...this larger sized molecule when it becomes part of the circuit in the arc is bombarded by high energy particles (fast moving electrons)...this polarizes the molecule and breaks it apart as it begins to conduct...however, the velocity of the incoming water/hydrogen stream removes it from the stream before the ions equalize.

Anyway, do more hard-core research before telling me what is what...and furthermore...why are responding for Aussepom??...I'm sure he can do it just fine...and it's his place to say whether or not he built it loosely off Stan's technology....not yours...so shhh
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2009, 18:31:42 pm »
Oz,
Can you explain what is happening? Are you making hydrogen? Is it Meyer's injector?

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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2009, 19:19:07 pm »
This oz injector looks purely amazing and awesome.

As far as i can tell this seems to be an amp related process, rather than a voltage related process, am I wrong?Are you sending air and water through a plasma arc?orAre you sending air and water through an amp restricted voltage wave guide?

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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2009, 19:32:22 pm »
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First it's not exact. Then it is similar.  Then finally it is exactly the same thing. ???

If Aussepom is doing "exactly" the same thing as Meyer,  then where are the lasers, pulsing circuits VIC's. electron extractors,  and other things that Meyer used ?

I would wait a bit before we start erecting a statue to  Saint  Meyer.  Let's first let Aussepom  provide a few more  details and some explanations if he chooses to do so. 

Meyer didn't invent "atomic hydrogen"  and was not even close to the first to build a device that  disassociates hydrogen with a plasma arc.

http://www.lateralscience.co.uk/AtomicH/atomicH.html