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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2009, 13:07:11 pm »
Hi Gauss
Try to figure out of what the mechanical vibration frequency is a variable of: pulse repetition rate or tubular dimension, or both?

And instead of measuring gas flow rate, if you have a sensitive weight scale, monitor the weight during and after electrolosys.
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« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2009, 14:16:54 pm »
I think this is regular electrolysis Gauss .


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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #50 on: July 03, 2009, 18:15:34 pm »
Gauss, I think its great you are doing some experimental work.

The vibrations can resonante water apart and possibly help the gas move out of the tubes or electrodes quicker.

Here is a link youtube for Tibetan singing bowl.
There were a couple others that people put water in their bowls.
The resonance of the bowl would cause the water to bubble , this always interests me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdOJZDWJkuk
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CycFRkWboQU/[url]

Most of us should already know a pond fogger piezo crystal makes a cold fog sitting just covered by water or 1" or so under.
Puharich's sparkplugs were covered with (vitreous ceramic mixture containing piezo family materials).  ;)
Most likely others, you may have mentioned this.

I think if long tubes are mounted secure at the bottom, epoxied or potted in, that they will vibrate more longitudally or at their tips.
Using no spacers at the tip.
Pretty soon I will have a set of 12" tubes mounted like this, hopeing also for vibrational effects.

I have 2 large pieces of piezo ceramic from a ultrasonic cleaner small tub with lead wires but can't find out what voltage or signal to apply to the ceramic.
Guess I could just apply AC voltage with the autotransformer. Have a feeling this will possibly only make fog again.


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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #51 on: July 03, 2009, 19:49:04 pm »
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Puharich's sparkplugs were covered with piezo.

That is untrue....they were coated in nickel....nickel is a catalyst.
Nowhere in the entire patent does it say anything about piezos. I have studied the whole thing...it's RF resonant oscillations......sorry to burst your bubble. But, that is an assumption not supported anywhere in the patents.

If you can show me otherwise (proof from patent) I would welcome it.

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« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2009, 20:15:24 pm »
Yes I do believe it states in the patent he made a ceramic mixture from the minerals that make piezo's.
In a certain combination.
You should be able to see that.

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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #53 on: July 03, 2009, 20:36:48 pm »
Many replies. Well this is not regular electrolysis, otherwise it would not work in distilled water. The pulses act like a hammer on the tubes creating a sound wave that shatters the water in the rarified points.

I believe the Piezo crystals are hard to apply to this system. S1R or something like that tried in some fashion on Youtube with little effect.

Anyone has tried the setup yet. I guess before that happens it is kind of secondary what I now write..... But in our system a kid can make HHO in any water and the production is efficient, but we do not know how efficient yet. Good estimate will come next week.


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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #54 on: July 03, 2009, 20:45:21 pm »
Interesting news
It is a good thing when someone dares to try to come up with something new...i like that.
 
Got to find out how to precision measure the gas output.
Is it so that during resonance an unlimited number of cells can be driven for free?..

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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #55 on: July 03, 2009, 20:51:07 pm »
Hi Gauss,

Well, test 1 is done.
I used an outertube of 15 cm /  6 inches long
Innertube  is like 18cm /  7 inches.

I have to say that NO vibration what so ever is noticed.....I tried destilled. I tried tap and yes, even some with NOAH.

I have the most soft spacers in the world......
I used a HP signal generator with a 50% duty. I can run this thing between zero and 50Mhz.
Hooked it up to a FET and a variable powersupply which can run from zero till 35V. Max 3 amps.

So, again. No vibration detected.

Question: Have you tried shorter type tubes? Or does it only work with the length you have tested?
Question: At what kind a frequency are the tubes vibrating?

Steve