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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #152 on: July 14, 2009, 18:46:44 pm »
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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #153 on: July 14, 2009, 22:15:13 pm »
Well, this is embarassing but very interesting scope shot at least....

A transistor was borken so the cell got DC all the time...  Now when we switched it we got very different results...

Sorry, sorry, this is really embarassing. :-[ I will try to diminish duty cycle later with a different pulser instead of using the bursts.  WIth a low burst freq gas flow quickly diminishes. So we need to use lower duty cyle instead. I believe 20% might work well. But right now OU is very far away.... ::)

I appriciate your honesty very much. Next time more luck!
 
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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #154 on: July 14, 2009, 23:43:56 pm »
Thanks, just to encourage you a bit after messing up here, sorry again, really stupid what happened... I have pretty reliable information that if you use a pressure boiler and at least 240F with your cell inside you will increase HHO production efficiency like crazy and get dry steam at the same time. That is also logical since the water is more active with the higher temperature. Ionize that mix like Leo Umila does, then ignite the ionized mix - boom, then recycle back through the cell. You have an engine running on water. KISS...


So where should our focus be???! ;D

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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #155 on: July 15, 2009, 01:44:13 am »
Thanks Goeytex.
 
I believe that's also why Stan's inner tube is longer than his outer tube...the frequency between inner and outer probably match.
 
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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #156 on: July 15, 2009, 03:37:56 am »
Well, this is embarassing but very interesting scope shot at least....

A transistor was borken so the cell got DC all the time...  Now when we switched it we got very different results...

Sorry, sorry, this is really embarassing. :-[ I will try to diminish duty cycle later with a different pulser instead of using the bursts.  WIth a low burst freq gas flow quickly diminishes. So we need to use lower duty cyle instead. I believe 20% might work well. But right now OU is very far away.... ::)

I appriciate your honesty very much. Next time more luck!
 
Steve

Yeah Gauss .

Bummer , but like Stevie said , thx for telling us .

Sometimes the sign of a real man is when he can admit bad things things

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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #157 on: July 15, 2009, 09:54:18 am »
Thanks, just to encourage you a bit after messing up here, sorry again, really stupid what happened... I have pretty reliable information that if you use a pressure boiler and at least 240F with your cell inside you will increase HHO production efficiency like crazy and get dry steam at the same time. That is also logical since the water is more active with the higher temperature. Ionize that mix like Leo Umila does, then ignite the ionized mix - boom, then recycle back through the cell. You have an engine running on water. KISS...


So where should our focus be???! ;D

The theory and practisch is that hot water works better in my cell too.
Before i get the real needed gas output, the cell and water must be warm.
I am having a theory in my head. I wanna make a small water chamber in my closed water circuit with a heater build in. That way it will be much more quicker operational. With higher temp in the water, you can drop volts, because you stear on amps. I must keep my amps on about 8 in a steady way. When the cell gets it operating temp, the voltage across it has dropped by a third....(read: tuned down)
With an extra heater, the voltage must drop even more.
The output gasses must go into a waterbubler. Maybe even 2
That way you filter out most of the steam. Too much steam doesnt work. Some steam works better in an engine.
 
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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #158 on: July 15, 2009, 09:58:38 am »
Steve, try a pressure steam boiler(at least 240F) instead so you get dry steam instead of wet steam, the difference is substantial, with dry steam you will get massive power, with wet steam almost nothing but cooling of the engine.

Thanks, just to encourage you a bit after messing up here, sorry again, really stupid what happened... I have pretty reliable information that if you use a pressure boiler and at least 240F with your cell inside you will increase HHO production efficiency like crazy and get dry steam at the same time. That is also logical since the water is more active with the higher temperature. Ionize that mix like Leo Umila does, then ignite the ionized mix - boom, then recycle back through the cell. You have an engine running on water. KISS...


So where should our focus be???! ;D

The theory and practisch is that hot water works better in my cell too.
Before i get the real needed gas output, the cell and water must be warm.
I am having a theory in my head. I wanna make a small water chamber in my closed water circuit with a heater build in. That way it will be much more quicker operational. With higher temp in the water, you can drop volts, because you stear on amps. I must keep my amps on about 8 in a steady way. When the cell gets it operating temp, the voltage across it has dropped by a third....(read: tuned down)
With an extra heater, the voltage must drop even more.
The output gasses must go into a waterbubler. Maybe even 2
That way you filter out most of the steam. Too much steam doesnt work. Some steam works better in an engine.
 
Steve

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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #159 on: July 15, 2009, 10:08:52 am »
Gauss,
 
Can you explain or show what a high pressure steam boiler is?
How does it work?
 
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