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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #120 on: July 11, 2009, 22:34:54 pm »

@Goeytex

i heard him say it word for word in 2 of his videos... i think it was his way of saying it in kiss method...  keep it simple stupids lol   he gives you 3 main points..

voltage, sequential mode pulsed, physical process..

tells me that voltage can perform a physical process with frequency and potential.

Some folks may diss me for saying this and thats ok.  But becasue Meyer said something does not necessarily make it so.  For me the proof is in the pudding.
 
There is nothing simple about this Meyer stuff.   If it were "simple"  there would be many working replications.  There are none that I can tell so far.  Lawton and Ravi were not actual Meyer replications IMO. 
 
Assuming Meyer was a master of water dissasociation and not a master of equivocation and deception,  what could it be that so many very intelligent people are missing in replicating even a simple Meyer system?
 
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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #121 on: July 12, 2009, 00:26:54 am »
Goeytex,
 
I totaly agree with you.
 
 

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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #122 on: July 12, 2009, 00:36:15 am »
your right there is nothin simple for this setup it takes precision design for completion of the task.. but there are such things as roots to the task... such as the main things needed to be considered...

the potential conventional transformers are able to produce voltage and pass it in the form of current... its like they build up the negative but no positve .. it leads to amps across water..

a transformer designed to teslas standard with the bifilar is able use secondary to store the energy on the core in seperate but equal wires called bifilar chokes... he designed it to rid of the condesor (capacitor). stan says the chokes must have equal to or more capacitance then the cell itself... i think this is so it will couple the charge on the core rather then allowing it to try to couple in the cell in the form of amps... amps will happen when you dont have chokes of equal inductance on the same core... the coupling between the opposite wires create a cancelation since they are exact opposite.   

the bifilar coil is part of stans vic.. read teslas patent that i have posted and it says clear as day that the transformer acts like a condensor in that wind style..

what could people be missing to go forward in showing there work??? money money money.. some havent had the chance in their life to bank and stack cash to play with.. to bring words out of someones mouth that has patents and the main concept to the idea then to have it looked at in doubt is fine by me but it just shows negativity and doubt to the mind .. stan had the pudding right? he remembered that statement word for word he corrected his self in one video when he was saying it.. he must have seen this statement to be correct from some perspective.. maybe you just cant see his yet? 

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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #123 on: July 12, 2009, 02:58:40 am »


...what could people be missing to go forward in showing there work??? money money money.. some havent had the chance in their life to bank and stack cash to play with.. to bring words out of someones mouth that has patents and the main concept to the idea then to have it looked at in doubt is fine by me but it just shows negativity and doubt to the mind .. stan had the pudding right? he remembered that statement word for word he corrected his self in one video when he was saying it.. he must have seen this statement to be correct from some perspective.. maybe you just cant see his yet?

I absolutely did NOT mean what people are missing to "go forward in showing their work".  I meant what are people missing in actually understanding Meyer's process scientifically to the point of replicating it ...even in a very basic manner. 

Surely you are kidding when you said money.  Money cannot buy results if the science is not understood.  And money cannot buy understanding is the science is esoteric to the inventor.   

Anyone with a couple of grand and a little help can replicate a Tesla Coil, or a Plasma Globe, or other such devices.  Yet over the last 10  years,  with hundreds if not thousands of experimenters world wide (some of which are highly educated)  and with countless thousands of dollars spent, not one single person has actually achieved anything close to the results Meyer claimed.   The patents are there and have been followed to the T by many experimenters,  yet  still  nothing close. 

Meyer had the pudding....  Did he really?  I really want to believe that but unfortunately the actual evidence is sparse.  ... A patent is no proof of the pudding, neither is a statement in a video lecture.   A working system based upon a patent would be.  Where is one ?    It seems to me that given the available patents and other documents and bye the sheer number of attempted replications that  someone would have at least stumbled upon a working replication.  Even a pair of deuces wins a poker hand from time to time. 

Meyer said "the Lord" showed him this stuff.  What did the Lord  reveal to  Meyer  that He is not telling the rest of us ?   

No,  it's not lack of money IMO.  Something else is missing.   And I really hope someone discovers what it is.

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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #124 on: July 12, 2009, 03:18:04 am »
Well I think that not wasting his $ on this is a wise choice .

When theres a break on something thats when you do it .

There are other interresting things popping up these days .







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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #125 on: July 12, 2009, 03:18:36 am »
Goeytex, I could not have said it better my self.
 
In one of Stan's images, he depicts the water molecule bouncing from the negative and positive electrodes.
 
now the only way I can see this occuring is if the water molecule is in vapor form, like steam or in tini droplets.
 
there is no way that water molecules in liquid form will bounce like that.
 
So could it be that the resonace he talks about is actually this effect of the tini water droplets boncing between the electrodes? this bouncing rate should be much slower than the tipical RF wave length for that 1.5 mm gap, or +-6Ghz.
 
Maybe the 1st thing that needs to be done is to break away single water molecules from the liquid water, then have the independent water molecules flow up the HV WFC, and as the molecule flow up the cell, bouncing between the electrodes, it will eventually break into H2 and O ?
 
This is the only way I can see the use for the VIC, there is no way that the VIC will do anything when the WFC is full of liquid water.
 
 

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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #126 on: July 12, 2009, 07:05:00 am »
I believe that the vast majority of folks dwelling in topics of Stan's work spend way to much time trying to learn from others, and not enough trying to learn from Stan.

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Re: Results from some tests...
« Reply #127 on: July 12, 2009, 10:08:38 am »
Well put Donald!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!