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Re: Microprocesor Based VIC/PWM Controller
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2009, 21:43:11 pm »
tell me if this sound like it could be correct.. stan says this is a physical process, so this means the building of voltage potentials (steady amplifying voltage pulse frequency) in the cell plates is whats giving you the force to drum on the protons an electrons with potential.  it is a non chemical reaction with water so there are no trades of electrons from the plates into the water or vice versa. so the only way the water is going to be effected to elongate the orbital electrons is with a change in potentials in the plates (gaining and dropping in amplitude on a  frequency)..

 so lets say it gets charged up to 40kv.. once it reaches 40 kv  where is it being discharged? into  the water? to be a physical process are you aloud to leak electrons into the water? but if you were leaking electrons from negative into the water would you not pull electrons from water into the positive making it a chemical reaction????   or does positive balance back out  with the diode colapsing  as the negative choke potential drops?

 could stan be turning on analog and digital on seperate sides of the primary to charge and then he discharges the choke on a frequency through the negative digital gate as well???  plus when your allowing a solid analog to be produced on the positive and the digital on the negative, doesnt that leave you with the primary receiving a inclining pos on time even when the digital is being gated off?? would that create any effects on the core? maybe frequency multiply? im not sure if i even make sense..

  i see stan charging and discharging through the transformer since he says it a physical process.. and it would make sense to pulse your dischage, but to do so you have to have analog on one side and digital on the other... i read somewhere that neg choke superimposes onto primary..??    sorry if it seems like i repeated myself like 3 times i just wanted to cycle it through your brains from different perspectives..or am i seeing this all wrong?  please correct me in redneck lingo lol..   and sorry if you feel like im going off topic on your thread.. i have study stans stuff for over a year and this subject confuses and bothers me on a daily bases.. also where stan states the primary is longitudinaly wound in space relationship on the core of 6-1.. that also bothers me lol...

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Re: Microprocesor Based VIC/PWM Controller
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2009, 07:04:05 am »
@Outlaw

I have seen nothing with reference to vacuum tubes or the like....the only analog device Stan ever referenced was his special magneto.
As for "physical"...you can take it in many interpretations...it's all covered under the realm of Physics...so I believe he is making reference to the pulsating voltage potential elongating and "fracturing" water.

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so there are no trades of electrons from the plates into the water or vice versa

This is an erroneous statement...
His patent clearly lays out an "ELECTRON EXTRACTION CIRCUIT" (EEC...)
It's quite clear there is electron manipulation...this is likely why he was found guilty in court of Fraud...they couldn't fathom the electron retaining potential and "motoring itself" into another load....this is the "relaxation time" (length of time a molecule/atom retains charge)....and is the basis of OU....it's the basis of everything Tom Beardon, John Bedini, and Joe Newman try and teach....KEEPING INPUT AND OUT ISOLATED!

By keeping the Charge/Discharge separated in COMPLETELY separate circuits you allow charge movement without extra load on the input side. You are also left with charged atoms afterward because it is not an already separated ion traveling to the opposite charged electrode to neutralize (electrolysis)...in fact it's stored potential energy drained off the collector/condenser/capacitor (wfc)

This is not myth...this is not theory....this is cold hard Physics!!!

The demo cell is most likely a highly efficient pulsed resonant electrolysis cell....to make it run a car IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING!!!!................It is clear that the hydrogen is manipulated....CLEAR!!! Stan says it everywhere...."ATOMIC DECAY OF HYDROGEN"....straight from his mouth........It seems like an attempt to describe the compressing nature of ATOMIC Hydrogen atoms condensing to Hydrogen Molecules....I don't know what I need to do to get people to see the connection!!!!

Shooot....connection is a bad word....IT'S A GIANT BRIDGE :D

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Re: Microprocesor Based VIC/PWM Controller
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2009, 15:06:09 pm »
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I don't know what I need to do to get people to see the connection!!!!

Maybe build a working system ?   

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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2009, 15:07:27 pm »
Don't forget to look at the specs of the fets or transistors regarding [rise]times, you want fast risetimes, "sharp gradients" remember, the sharper, the bigger the emf induced on the coils. Must be s maller than the risetime constant of the primary coil.

the mosfet at the positive or negative side of the primary coil?
put it on the negative side, and see if voltage has reached the collector in off state.
a coil is a wire and transmits voltage to the other terminal, being connected or not connected.
put 5 volt on one side of a coil and measure on the other unconnected side, you'll read 5 volt, or 0v over the coil. [it is quite interesting if it does so]
also, try 2 fets on both sides and alternating: shuttling of voltage potential a la tesla?

I think.
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Re: Microprocesor Based VIC/PWM Controller
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2009, 19:38:47 pm »
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I don't know what I need to do to get people to see the connection!!!!

Maybe build a working system ?   

Well no sh*t Sherlock!
I've been doing so...I'm waiting on my damn VIC (I also need electrodes welded to all my tube sets...19 tube sets)....my point is there are people with more resources then myself, and, if they were in the right direction (instead of "La La Land") then something would happen NOW!


So please save your condescending remarks...I haven't the time.

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Re: Microprocesor Based VIC/PWM Controller
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2009, 20:12:15 pm »
Didn't mean to be condescending really.

But there seems to be quite a few people in regards to this stuff  that are dead sure that they have the answer,
yet they really only  have an untested theory or idea.  And in light of the fact that they have not  proven their  theory
in practice,   they preach it  like it is the irrefutable gospel truth,  while  wondering  why others don't
jump on their bandwagon and become glassy -eyed converts.

But I am sure that you are not one of these people.    Are you ?

Too many people have declared they have the answers to this stuff prior to ever having done squat .  They are sure they
on on the right path and anyone on a different path is missing it.     So you should understand that those us of that have
built multiple systems and spent countless hours and blown dozens of FET's  on this stuff  trying almost  every conceivable way
of replicating Meyers process .....might be a bit skeptical of untested theories.

As far as comments go,  I will comment whenever  I see fit,  especially on a thread that I started.  And I will
try not to be condescending to anyone.  

Again,  my comment was not intended to be condescending,  but rather to make a  point. 

I wish you great success in your endeavor.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2009, 20:41:11 pm by Goeytex »

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Re: Microprocesor Based VIC/PWM Controller
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2009, 21:35:29 pm »
@Goeytex

your a ok in my book.. as well as everyone else on here.. anyone who has taken the time to question the illusion that luminates in front of their eyes on a daily basis is ok in my book.. i have learned through the last year of studying that you never know when your gonna stumble across a answer to a ponderd thought.. it can come from the most unlikely places.  any who back to the subject at hand.

@ radiant_1

i understand the whole process you are speaking of.. i understand stan states hes producing power from waters electrons on the off time and at the same time restricting current due to the led resistance and he is converting the electron energy to photon energy. this is understood on my parts.. but i dont see a E.E.C being involved but only in what stan calls the hydrogen fracturing process.... that involes a dry cell resonant cavity... being pulsed at high amplitude to excite Oxygens electrons off in the already processed water (gas) it would be linked to a extraction circuit  (led arrays hooked to a tube/ or screen right above the exit port of the dry cell). you will not tune into hydrogens high freq of electron orbits and be able to remove its electron.. you must rob most of the oxygens and the oxy will rob the hydrogen of its electron. you have now created very unstable hydrogen.. it is a atomized proton looking for balance with none to be found. this gas mix alone has a static charge and must be insulated from being grounded out i would say.. i think it regains its electrons through the motor apon entrance and exposure to ignition... heat equals energy loss in a material, does that mean when a cylinder is hot it can easily pass and receive electrons from a ionized gas? also remember non combistables are being introduced to the mix too.. they will allow  protons  to cling to them and you find yourself with hydrocarbon..
and the retardation of ignition due to the time it takes from hydrogen to pull away from the carbon and cling to the oxygen during ignition.. we can now match the burning rate of fossil fuel.. so what it amounts to is how we ring these little booggers.  to produce cold hard physics effects.... these are not ideas from me these are understandings by stan for the most part.. explained on videos and his tech..

not saying im completely right on the concept and i could be mistaken.. but i beleive im darn close..

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Re: Microprocesor Based VIC/PWM Controller
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2009, 17:05:29 pm »

To rotate the polarity field of our WFC I think we can use a modified motor H-bridge circuit.
Two input lines, one input line A... current flow -/+, then input line B...current flow +/-. Both A and B no current flow to WFC off.

Use the power generated from the alternator instead of 12Volt supply to switch it through the WFC. As a result I think we do not have brown mug.

Don't know the specs yet to build one with IC's or discrete components. Still investigating this.


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