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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2009, 17:39:47 pm »
steve,

these are good questions and a good way of uniting the simpleest view of whats going on..
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opposite electrical voltage = not the same electrical voltage or potential difference
Example: +12V   opposite=-12V
But only against a common electrode or ground, so to speak.
Sequential mode: = shifting between one and another. In this case: first you pulse +12V and then -12V against a common ground.
So how in practice? Use 3 plates, or 3 tubes. The electrode in the middle should be the common.

What would be the effect of such a setup on water? Well, in my theory, you still have current running, so it stays electrolysis.

If sequential mode means that both the +12V and -12V are powerd on and off  with help of a timer, then what do we get?
Do we not have 24V across the outer plates? Still current running? Still electrolysis?



there are only 2 tubes in stans set up and it would be complicating to jump to 3 at the moment but it does sound interesting..

sequential mode= shifting between one another.. i like that thought but i think it is a little more complicated then 1,2,1,2,1,2 (1=pos and 2=neg shift)   i think its 1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3 (1= pos, 2= both, and 3= neg)   since that sequence starts on one and end on three then repeats, it keeps sending a unipolar pulse.. think of each step... step one positve on= pull on electrons push on proton... step 2 both= stability pulse to the protons? step 3  negative on= a deflection of electron and pull on the proton..  its either 1,2,1,2,1,2 or the 1,2,3,1,2,3

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i think it may be the 1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3 becasue the alternator could use its 3 seperate phases to create that effect.. like phase one you would leave the negative choke disconected from the cell, phase 2 both chokes conected, and 3 just the neg conected.. the alternator is geometricaly configured to have 120degee out peaks.. so by coneecting it like that you can hit 1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3..
there is no current because of the transformer design.. it is a transformer

if its not them then it could as well be both,both,both,both.. that sounds way simple to replicate with vic 6-1, or it may need 3 to do the job and have their primarys hit in sync...

the key to restricting current is the transformer.. it does 2 jobs  capacitor and step up in voltage.. the slots between the pancakes is where the charge is being held, not in the water... when it is charging up you are for one using a low signal to help in not creating amps.. he relys on step up to get it from the low input (leverage)   since the chokes are the same length and are right next to each other, when the charge is building the electrons dont leave the core, they are just being manifested into the negative side of the secondary..   opposite potential build on the same core (+ and - choke)   will stay on the choke as long as they build in sync... when they separate they have a magntic attraction to each other while there separating on the core.. like a north and south pole sitting next to each other they are pulling on each other.. them pulling on the core in balance makes it more work for the electrons to cross the water so now you create the skin effect on the + and - ...  so buy chargeing up, then gating the charge back to ground you are allowing that skinn effect to produce a oscillation in the cell... like a speaker hitting air, but its voltage hitting water.

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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2009, 22:12:39 pm »
Well, Outlaw,

I like to keep it simple and practicle.
I like to discus this with you.  :)
At the end you talk about a charge in the chokes/coils transformer. Well, what happens when the power is off? What happens to the charge in those nice coils?

Accoording to the knowledge i have, you will have a discharge. That discharge will happen very quick. Meaning: lots of amps  in a short periode. With a bifcoil you can slow the discharge, but it will happen....

Maybe we should look at things as they are. If you see the drawing of Stans alternator schematic, you see he uses 1 with and 1 without chokes. The only reason to use chokes is to reduce current, as Stan said. Why you think he needed that?
Well, from my tests, i can tell you that if you have a very large wfc with tubes in parallel, your totall resistance will be very very low.
Like 0.1ohm. What happens with yr alternator? Well, the cell pulls so massive amps that the alternator will smoke up.
To control and to be able to have a big wfc, he added some chokes, to keep amps under control.
I know. I tried. I proved it.  ;)

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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2009, 00:05:43 am »
what would happen to the lower transitor ?

Blow up ?

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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2009, 04:04:22 am »
This guy called Dr. Koontz was on coast to coast on 6/6/09. He shared some insight into Stan's work. The Keyword is SCALAR RESONANCE.
The WFC unit has a scalar resonance freq. of 6k.

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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2009, 05:06:45 am »
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Accoording to the knowledge i have, you will have a discharge. That discharge will happen very quick. Meaning: lots of amps  in a short periode. With a bifcoil you can slow the discharge, but it will happen..

if this is true then why would stan state on video that with a 15 second on put time he could continue to produce gas for 94 seconds during what he called off put time...

how is a capacitor made?  with a dielectic between parellel conductors right? ..

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At the end you talk about a charge in the chokes/coils transformer. Well, what happens when the power is off? What happens to the charge in those nice coils?

i think during the 94 second  off put time he is still gating negative side of the primary where  the negative choke is also conected  (not to secondary)  and he is using common ground to dicharge the transformer in a gated manner.. so you are still drumming the water even when powers off. then when it needs to charge up again the postive side of primary turns back on. and adds the analog pulse.. analog is the variable amplitude..

think really hard on this senario.. the choke wire, lets say both are exactly 500 ft.. now think of that wire not as a line/string but pretend you are the size of a flea standing next to 26awg..  the fleas perspective in a size to size ratio.. the wire is like 3 foot tall and 5 miles long....to the flea that wire has great volume... what if that wire was a air tank and wasnt solid?  to the flea that tank can hold alot of volume under preasure..  so if we can except that wire has volume like a air tank you start to see potentials a little diff..

now what if one tank (wire) is a little longer (bigger) then the other? ask your self what happens to 2 air tanks if one is bigger then the other? well the bigger tank will require more air then the other to have the same pressure.. you could have the 2 air tanks (wire) hooked to 2 different pumps (emf) of the same force the smaller tank will peak quicker then the bigger tank (wire)  thats why they are of same length but there is still more to it for understanding why the charge stays on the core and not in the water..

now why does it.. well think of the 2 tanks again.. these tanks are wound side by side.. the positve having a diode is pulling electrons out and sending/manifesting/ deflecting  them into the secondary... so the chokes charge is  pos potential (vaccum/ positive polarity)
the negative choke potential (pressure negative polarity)  since the 2 wire are the same length they will charge at a even pace.. the negative is charging it self through ground, ,and is pulling electrons in.. the rising polarity of positive is causing negative to induct the charge into itself..  when it is charged (the transformer not the cell)  the charge does not leave because the 2 wires are the same length,  they are sitting right next to each other and have opposite charges in them.. that are happy on the core,...  so what happens if you introduce the neg choke to a gated ground? will it oscillate and discharge slowly drumming the cell with voltage?

im not saying im right on this but i feel like im close


stans drawing i think can be missleading.. to simple..

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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2009, 05:44:58 am »
your link is busted yaro , I'd like to listen to this plz.

This is important , somebody get that audio .

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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2009, 06:44:01 am »
Thats just some buzz aldrin crap