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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2009, 20:27:30 pm »
Those circuits are half-bridge and full bridge circuits. There is more info here:

http://www.fairchildsemi.com/an/AN/AN-9012.pdf#page=1

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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2009, 22:08:44 pm »
the main description,

Voltage Intensifier Circuit (60)
By integrating and joining together variable voltage amplitude control signal (318 xxx 32n) of
Figure (3-15) WITH variable controlled switch-gate (49a xxx 49n) of Figure (3-18) across primary coil
(26) of Figure (3-22), variable amplitude pulse-train (51a xxx 51n) of Figure (3-19) is
electromagnetically coupled (transformer action) TO secondary coil (52) of Figure (3-22) by way of
pulsing core (53) of Figure (3-23) as to Figure (3-22).

the negative side
Cell Driver Circuit (90)
In either case, the resultant or varied pulse train (47a xxx 47n) (calibration of 44a xxx 44n)
becomes incoming gated pulse signal (48) of figure (3-5) to cell driver circuit (90) of Figure (3-5)
which performs a switching function by switching "off' and "on" electric ground being applied to
opposite side (48) of primary coil (26) of Figure (3-19). The resultant pulse wave form (49a xxx 49n)
of Figure (3-18) superimposed onto primary coil (26) is exact duplicate of proportional pulse train (47a
xxx 47n). However, each pulse train (47) (49) are electrically isolated from each other. Only voltage
cross-over from regulated power supply (150) of Figure (3-6) to battery supply (28) occurs, as
illustrated in Figure (3-6).

the positive side,
Analog voltage signal (32a xxx 32n) of Figure (3-15) allows pulse train (51a xxx 51n) voltage
amplitude (VO xxx Vn) of Figure (3-19) to vary from one up to twelve volts


i have a feeling that the negative choke is being gated with or to the negative side of primary as well...  and the negative side of the secondary is connected to isloated ground from primary not the choke i think... i see the chokes being able to induct the uprise of voltage due to the mutual induction of the core during  the rise of secondaries from pulsing primary, but i do not see a clear signal being produced in the chokes.. so i see stan gating the negative excitor chokes charge.. by doing so i see a high negative excitor field trying to colapse to ground with  restricted current due to frequency gating and stainless 430 fr resistance. in a sense you are coupling primary to secondary through the water... the positve plate is the secondary side and the negative is the primary.. by doing so i think you couple the signal to where your primary signal is matching your secondary with precision.. coupled by water.. the negative choke will still have the  balanced opposite potential due to mutual inductance of the bifilar wind.

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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2009, 06:49:53 am »
Thats some good research you did outlaw .

Thx .


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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2009, 07:57:45 am »
thanks,  this project is driving me crazy lol..   this quote says it all

" No one ever dreamed of using opposite electrical voltage, Being pulsed in a sequential mode in order to perform the work to split the water molecule in a simple physical process. Now isnt that amazing?"
 

on another note lets switch our relativity to super slow motion for a second.. 1 full analog pulse could vary from 0-12 volts.. it is not a square wave, it is climbing in time  startin at 0 and up to 12..  then it drops like a square wave..  now what happens when primarys negative side connection to ground is being gated... you have a interation of solid incoming positve analog signal being switched on and off on the neg side.. this all is happening in time and in sync.. so if the analog if solid and its getting switched in a on and off manner on the other side of the primary.. what is going on, on the core when the ground is off but the analogs still climbing while thats happening.. could that 50 percent off put time of the frequency be the frequency double?  when the gate turns ground back on???

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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2009, 12:26:10 pm »
Dankie,

The only difference is that you can get a sinewave into your primairy coil, when you use a 2 transistor setup. That can work, if you have a 3 wire primairy.
http://www.aaroncake.net/circuits/inverter.asp
http://www.aaroncake.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7123

I personally like the second one better.

Both circuits putting out a sinewave, which can be controlled in frequency.
The frequency range is limited by the propertys of the toroid.

Steve
The first circuit looks like a VCO:
http://sss-mag.com/cvco.html

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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2009, 13:28:23 pm »
thanks,  this project is driving me crazy lol..   this quote says it all

" No one ever dreamed of using opposite electrical voltage, Being pulsed in a sequential mode in order to perform the work to split the water molecule in a simple physical process. Now isnt that amazing?"
 

on another note lets switch our relativity to super slow motion for a second.. 1 full analog pulse could vary from 0-12 volts.. it is not a square wave, it is climbing in time  startin at 0 and up to 12..  then it drops like a square wave..  now what happens when primarys negative side connection to ground is being gated... you have a interation of solid incoming positve analog signal being switched on and off on the neg side.. this all is happening in time and in sync.. so if the analog if solid and its getting switched in a on and off manner on the other side of the primary.. what is going on, on the core when the ground is off but the analogs still climbing while thats happening.. could that 50 percent off put time of the frequency be the frequency double?  when the gate turns ground back on???

" No one ever dreamed of using opposite electrical voltage, Being pulsed in a sequential mode in order to perform the work to split the water molecule in a simple physical process. Now isnt that amazing?"

Well, he also said: Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition......


Both sentenses doesn't make any sense, do they....

Hope some body can explain what here really meant.

Steve


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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2009, 14:30:45 pm »
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" No one ever dreamed of using opposite electrical voltage, Being pulsed in a sequential mode in order to perform the work to split the water molecule in a simple physical process. Now isnt that amazing?"

Well, he also said: Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition......


Both sentenses doesn't make any sense, do they....

Hope some body can explain what here really meant.

they make perfect sense when you understand force.

lets start with   "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition"

to praise-  the offering of grateful homage in words or song, as an act of worship: a hymn of praise to God.

god is knowlege..lifes a war of balance evil uses bullets for ammunition.. the wise (gods people) use words of wisdom and great knowlege for there ammunition.. its the difference in harmonic and non harmonic.. god is harmonic

so he means to fight evil with knowlege as your weapon..


now for the other one

" No one ever dreamed of using opposite electrical voltage, Being pulsed in a sequential mode in order to perform the work to split the water molecule in a simple physical process. Now isnt that amazing?"

the three main words of interest-  opposite electrical voltage (potential), sequential mode, and physical process..

we know what opposite potential is and how to create it right? ok we know this and we know stan made the plates hold a static charge giving a skin effect. but some reason people cant get away from amps.. amps are a chemical process when the electrons are flowing through the water and into the circuit.. you will get energy loss due to heat and friction in the water from overkill electron flow..

imagine the vibrations of a speacker, stan used audio range waves between 0-20khz up to and beyond 40kv in some cases with under 1 amp of current across water. so you know a subwoorfer can cause a physical impact with your body from a distance (feel the vibrations).. well what about static fields being pulsed in a audio  range.. static can create a physical force on water without touch from a distance, but the best part is static potentials interaction is a little different then traveling wave of oscillating object such as a speaker that creates a wave from the force of movement of the specker cone... static voltage interacts atomicaly.. the positve  creates a pull on electrons, while the negative creates a pull on the proton..

now what stan means by sequential mode is not totaly clear to me yet.. i know timing is everything .. the sequential mode to me means either 2 things
1. he could be switch the excitor plates on and off at different and same time in a pattern...(*note* by doing so would not classify it as alternating current since switching them on and off doesnt involve flopping the polarity to do so.)

2 or he just uses it to describe his step up pulse and hitting both excitors at the same time,  not alternating their on and off to differ from each other.. and he refers to that pulse as a sequene since its happening in repition

he says a simple physical process because hes drumming the cell with static force, not a moving force like the physical moving object speaker to send wave...

hope this help..



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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2009, 16:46:48 pm »
Outlaw,

Let me tell you what i undertstand when i read all this.

opposite electrical voltage = not the same electrical voltage or potential difference
Example: +12V   opposite=-12V
But only against a common electrode or ground, so to speak.

Sequential mode: = shifting between one and another. In this case: first you pulse +12V and then -12V against a common ground.
So how in practice? Use 3 plates, or 3 tubes. The electrode in the middle should be the common.

What would be the effect of such a setup on water? Well, in my theory, you still have current running, so it stays electrolysis.

If sequential mode means that both the +12V and -12V are powerd on and off  with help of a timer, then what do we get?
Do we not have 24V across the outer plates? Still current running? Still electrolysis?

Steve , just thinking out loud on the forum