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Re: Atomic Hydrogen
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2009, 13:29:59 pm »
My preliminary thoughts are that the hydrogen resonator "easer" is functioning as a hydrogen laser.
you are right, I am not famiiar with lasers. Gonna read about it.

for starters:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_construction
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_inversion (posted his before, in a diffeent context)

cool
http://astro.unl.edu/naap/hydrogen/animations/hydrogen_atom.html
from energeticforum

awesome stuff in the blacklight patent  - fractional quantum energies, below ground state - because it is below ground state, is this aka ZPE?

I read some of it, I don't understand, how does stealing the electron by the "energy hole" bring hydrogen to a fractional quantum state, below ground state? Shouldnt the energystate be higher.
Perhaps my misunderstanding.
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Re: Atomic Hydrogen
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2009, 20:38:13 pm »
http://stedjee1.infinology.net/Velocity_Orbit_Electron/Velocity%20of%20Orbiting%20Electron.htm

this site has some math on it for ionizations state oh hydrogen... alot of equations..  should be useful to someonegood with math..

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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2009, 10:25:09 am »
Here is "Atomic Hydrogen" in action...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUHeBPBzca0

Notice the color of the plasma...then notice it happens on only one electrode...

Then look at this..
(http://www.chem.uiuc.edu/Chem103/spectroscopy/images/tube1.jpg)

That's all I'm gonna say right now...
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Re: Atomic Hydrogen
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2009, 03:03:26 am »
We need to focus on the physics...the physical is after all, the only real truth.
We need to then keep in mind the key truths of the physical (eventually you need to learn all physical truths). Those being...

1. Anything can be scaled up or down to infinity (infinity goes microscopic and macroscopically)
2. There are 4 states of matter; Solid, Liquid, Gas, and Plasma
3. All Mater IS made from "atoms"...the atom is composed of spinning orbital "electrons" that surround a dense "proton/neutron" core. These elements possess electro-magnetic atributes that get stronger the closer you get.
4. "Opposite Charges" attract each other...."Like Charges" repel each other.


Using these "truths of physics" (I avoid using the word law...because they are "truths" as best we can tell, not laws) you can begin to see what Meyer was actually doing. He was using voltage potentials (and light) to energize the atoms. He then used the accumulated energy to separate the molecules using the larger "electron" orbit (Both water molecule...and then H2 molecule)
He did this by using the potential energy across the molecule (which translates to a larger charge differential across the molecule) to a "floating" electrode...by pulsing the EEC there is a chain reaction between all atoms that the electricity deems "path of least resistance"...this chain reaction is the flow of electrons. One must understand that "electrons" are present everywhere...in fact static electricity is the transfer of electrons from one source to another. For example...rubbing PVC with rabbit fur actually transfers electrons from the fur to the PVC...rubbing PVC with cellophane takes electrons from the PVC. The WFC does that in reverse...Using an already high voltage static field (Static as is in "Standing Wave" to polarize the water molecule....a separate drain circuit is provided to pipe away one side of the charge. Creating an ionized Atom(s), and a neutral atom(s)

My study into "Atomic Hydrogen" has brought it together. Meyer was making it...for a fact. In fact in his whole "Earth Spaceship/Biosphere" paper he wrote how we could do the same thing to air to pull out solids (carbon, sulfur, etc) and clean our environment. It's how "Voltage does work"...Hydrogen is special because of it's immense size, yet minuscule mass...when it separates into singular atoms the size of the "electron" orbit enlarges, this is possible in common practice by pushing Hydrogen (H2) into a AC arc...in the arc the Molecule absorbs heat energy that energizes the orbits of the electrons to increase in size, then break apart. The blast of hydrogen is so fast that the atoms take with them an extra electron (Arc is an electron sea)...this extra electron allows the Hydrogen to have a relatively "stable" orbit. In common practice the "Atomic Hydrogen" hits a solid metal object and in the inelastic collision, loses the extra electron. Without the extra electron the atom must now collapse back down...it then links with another collapsing hydrogen atom and creates molecular hydrogen.

When a gas expands it cools the local area (refrigeration)...when it shrinks it heats the local area...(Atomic Hydrogen Welding)

Here is a crude atomic hydrogen water reactor...
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Meyer ultimately created a hydrogen plasma torch that heated all the "incombustible gasses" to expand and push the piston down.

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Re: Atomic Hydrogen
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2009, 07:35:01 am »
im on the same page and what it all falls down to is just using the voltage and potential fields of the plates to drum in amplitude on the water.. looking at it from the physic side you will see how the opposing polarity have opposing effects in force of direction on the protons and electrons of water... deflection and attaction happening in 4 different ways during one pulse... for instance the protons are being affected in 2 ways... 1  the protons being deflected by the positive plate and the proton is being pulled by the negative plate... while at the same TIME the electrons actions are vice versa in force of direction.. meaning the electron moves toward the positive and away from negative plate. this leaves 2 variables.. timing and change in amplitude.

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Re: Atomic Hydrogen
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2009, 09:20:43 am »

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Re: Atomic Hydrogen
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2009, 14:47:23 pm »

Here is a crude atomic hydrogen water reactor...
feature=related

cool experiment, you should make an amplifier connected to your soundcard output, with or without modulation, in combination with sine mixing software.

How are you so sure is atomic hydrogen in this video?

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Meyer ultimately created a hydrogen plasma torch that heated all the "incombustible gasses" to expand and push the piston down.
His gas gun is also atomic hydrogen, since it has an air processor on top of it.
The flame is invisible and not eplosive, but don't know if the temperature is above normal hydrogen combustion, guess so, that's the function of he air processor..

(http://www.chem.uiuc.edu/Chem103/spectroscopy/images/tube1.jpg)
These pdf's are important, great find.
What kind of laser or plasma is shown it in the picture?
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Re: Atomic Hydrogen
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2009, 17:16:33 pm »
Radiant_1 that was a very enlightening post(s)

I am curious to your perspective on the electrical pulse generator, i know it seems unrelated, but we don't have much in the way of a physics lecture from stan, other than the videos, but each of his inventions and writings are a clue into his thought process as he tries to use what he knows about physics and electrical to apply the physics to accomplish the task. There are dozens of bold clues in that patent for those that know what they are reading.

Cheers