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« on: April 28, 2009, 11:52:18 am »
Keely discoverd lots of stuff.

Here is a nice document on that.

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Re: Keely
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2009, 03:34:19 am »
i am in the process of reading from chapter on sympathetic vibratory force and on.

this is great thank you.

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Re: Keely
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2009, 10:16:43 am »
Yes, i think its great too.

Maybe its a forgotten technology. He uses a tuning fork or something.
He found out that certain frequency's had different results on breaking the water.
Maybe we should use an old doorbels coil and metalcup and tune frequency on the coil, so it vibrates on 620 or 630 or 42k or 12k.
If the water, and i think it wil, buble, then the question is what components we are getting.


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Re: Keely
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2009, 10:22:00 am »

What I find interesting is that Keely used a spinning "syren disk" to establish pure harmony between the transmitter and the dis-integrator.

Wouldn't the "syren disk" be the alternator (carrier) signal?

And he writes... p175 Vibratory Physics...

"The next step is to establish pure harmony between the transmitter and the dis-integrator, which is done by spinning the syren disk, then waiting until the sympathetic note is reached, as the syren chord, decreasing in velocity, descends the scale. At this juncture, the negative accelerator must be immediately and rapidly rotated, inducing high disturbance of equilibrium between the transmitter and the dis-integrator by triple negative evolution, with the result that a force of from five to ten, fifteen, twenty, and thirty thousand pounds to the square inch is evolved by the focalization of the triple negative stream on the disintegrating cell, or chamber...."

Translated  what I think it can be:  "the transmitter and dis-integrator are the stainless terminals. The terminals must be physically altered or switched (- / +) // (+ / -)"

Pump signal in and pump signal out from the transmitter and dis-integrator?
What frequency can this syren produce in the "audio" range?

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Re: Keely
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2009, 11:58:48 am »
Webmug,

Good questions. My first mindfart was that he was talking on the third harmonic of the alternator.
http://books.google.com/books?
id=pDPcHeBTmsgC&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=third+harmonic+alternator&source=bl&ots=wvY2TKlGN4&sig=bAlwmtiQ5u6mOgkHFoagW6bR2a0&hl=en&ei=yXRQSsnVC874-Qb-roiPBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4

http://books.google.com/books?id=072rwRgFpcgC&pg=PA804&lpg=PA804&dq=third+harmonic+alternator&source=bl&ots=o6DhERPw7Z&sig=XOfGo2nKCv6zuhSQWmM51izIBKU&hl=en&ei=yXRQSsnVC874-Qb-roiPBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

when triplen harmonics (that is, all odd multiples of the third harmonic) are present in the electrical system, they do not cancel each other out on the neutral conductor. Their phases match up they add together, producing a large current.

That way you can add like 10% more power to the setup...


But my second thoughts went to a mechanical driver for the vibrations, needed for his setup.
I have not so much researche done on that, yet.
If so, then you probably matched the electrical frequency with the mechanical vibration frequency...

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Re: Keely
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2009, 12:54:56 pm »
Isn't that called a Helmholtz Resonator?

"a Helmholtz resonator, i.e. an acoustic device that exhibits mechanical resonance with small damping"

Just thinking out-loud: I found something which called: Helmholtz Coils. Two coils placed above each other to create polarized field in between the two coils.
A picture of the SM gasgun looks just like it. Above and below are two coils, connected, in between there is an metal tubing, creating a magnetic field.


Helmholtz coil / particle trapped in magnetic mirror field
http://www.phy.ntnu.edu.tw/ntnujava/index.php?topic=182.0

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Re: Keely
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2009, 14:22:23 pm »
Interesting point!

I used a helmholtz coil in physics class last year, in the middle was a helium bulb with an electron gun inside, and the coils would make the electrons from the gun spin in a circle, and you could control the radius of the circle from the applied voltage, and we calculated the velocity of the electron.

I noticed that in stans gas gun the outer SS tube would act as the 'core' for the VIC built in, and you are right, the gasses do go through the magnetiic field as well. Now to think about this, the effect would be that the magnetic field of the VIC would be pulsing in a unipolar direction, most likely in the direction of bottom to top of the gas gun, pushing the gas through.

This could be for efficiency, not requiring a pump... as it acts like a magnetic particle accelerator as used in the EPG. This would also have the effect that the moving hydrogen and oxygen, as magnetic particles, would up the voltage of the secondary/chokes which I assume are wound at the top of the gas gun, with the primary at the bottom. This would also force stray electrons upwards with the magnetic field to the collection grid.

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Re: Keely
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2009, 14:32:44 pm »
Webmug,

Good questions. My first mindfart was that he was talking on the third harmonic of the alternator.
http://books.google.com/books?
id=pDPcHeBTmsgC&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=third+harmonic+alternator&source=bl&ots=wvY2TKlGN4&sig=bAlwmtiQ5u6mOgkHFoagW6bR2a0&hl=en&ei=yXRQSsnVC874-Qb-roiPBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4

http://books.google.com/books?id=072rwRgFpcgC&pg=PA804&lpg=PA804&dq=third+harmonic+alternator&source=bl&ots=o6DhERPw7Z&sig=XOfGo2nKCv6zuhSQWmM51izIBKU&hl=en&ei=yXRQSsnVC874-Qb-roiPBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

when triplen harmonics (that is, all odd multiples of the third harmonic) are present in the electrical system, they do not cancel each other out on the neutral conductor. Their phases match up they add together, producing a large current.

That way you can add like 10% more power to the setup...

I think I can apply this "third harmonic booster diodes" to my setup and test that this can generate more power.

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