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J. Miller / Re: Stanley A Meyer EPG Manufacture of MicroMagnetic Particles for Magnetic Slurry
« Last post by Login to see usernames on Today at 00:27:46 »
Well from a mathematical standpoint, the Keppler Conjecture would indicate a  packing  ratio of about 07 or so
for the nanospheres with the voids filled with resin, liquid or air.   So the density would be a weighted average
of the relative volumes  and densities of each of the nanospheres and carrier liquid

Perhaps a ferrofluid as the carrier liquid with the plastic micro magnetic bar magnets suspended within would increase the
magnetic susceptibly of the total epg core with an acceptable  change in viscosity
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J. Miller / Stanley A Meyer EPG Manufacture of MicroMagnetic Particles for Magnetic Slurry
« Last post by Login to see usernames on Yesterday at 17:28:54 »
"In the Ferrofluid and Mag-Gas plasma  EPG devices the maintenance of magnetic domain is critical for optimum power generation.

In the slurry systems by Meyer, Hauswirth, and Miller et al, (ferrofluid) the disruption of magnetic field orientation is mitigated by the use of orientation coils.

In the  gas plasma devices there are several  alignment  forces present. First, the use of the linear magnetic drives for pumps and then secondly, the magnetic coupling in the paramagnetic matrix

The domains are in one case about 10Nm and the gaseous systems much smaller atomic clusters

The method for creation of  larger magnetic domains is as follows:

1 Select the paramagnetic material  Fe, Co, or Ni   (either powder or larger filings)

2 Select the matrix be used.  A thermosetting  plastic such as the type used in hot glues
(This is similar to the systems  using PIB or poly-silanes )ed.

3. Melt the plastic to the highest temperature possible without breakdown
  (The  goal is to minimize viscosity) ed.

4 Introduce the paramagnetic material.  Brownian movement will be lowered
   by the viscous nature of the plastic,  When large amounts of magnetite are
   used on a vol/vol basis the ferrofluids increase rapidly in viscosity due to thixotropic
   and other rheological factors. (Bremen Conference Notes in Dropbox)

5. The reservoir of the paramagnetic//plastic suspension is heated and constantly stirred at this point

6  The molten  slurry is extruded  under pressure through a heated magnetic alignment tube
 
7  A nozzle with many small orifices is surrounded by a strong magnetic collar or coil to align the
    small particles before cooling the magnetic filament in air or  water bath.  Spinnerets similar to
    "cotton candy" machines are suitable for air dry systems

8  After drying the collected filament, it is then ready to be processed into smaller segments  by
    mechanical means.

9 The orientation of the magnetized  particles is axial to the magnetic force applied and is locked
    from further axial change within the  smaller segments due to the phase change of the suspending
    agent  (the thermosetting plastic or glue
 
10. The increased vol/vol ratio  of ferromagnetic material to matrix would result in aa larger magnetic susceptibly and
      would result in  greater COP values in the mechanical EPG series (over 3 as reported) but the EFFECTIVE
       SURFACE AREA OF CONTACT OF MAGNETIZED PARTICLES IS DRASTICALLY REDUCED DUE
       TO THE LARGER SIZE OF THE MAGNETIC REGIONS. and due to fewer particles per cubic
       centimeter, the viscosity is REDUCED"
       
        Which is easier to stir, a pound of corn flour,  a pound of corn meal or a pound of corn kernels when placed in
        and mixed with a pint of water? ed

        The corn flour "sets up" like  paste or a very thick tortilla batter
        The corn meal forms a thin gruel
        The corn kernels are easily swished around. ed.

11. "The fixation of the magnetic particles maintain and creates a magnetic matrix ,but the use of overall
larger domains or groups in the plastic "bar magnets"  results in lower viscosity permanently magnetized
media. The oil or water base used in the slurry becomes the dominant factor in viscosity with the same
or greater magnetic susceptibility per cc

  11  the  large magnetic particles or magnetic clusters can also subsequently be exposed or coated with either hydrophobic or hydrophilic  treatments depending on choice of carrier liquid"


pat pend     
sandia24


editor note:   thanks  Nice work!!  This is similar concept to the PIB and Poly silane  series discussed  elsewhere on this page.  ed. jm
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fastimports3 / Re: Looking for the right photocatalytic combination to extract electrons
« Last post by Login to see usernames on October 16, 2021, 10:46:46 am »
 if you want an engine to run you need the chemical reaction to be more exothermic than the previous ones and the net energy to be positive

when you try to break up water during electrolysis you give energy with 30% losses to heat to make the more unstable version of "water" which is hydrogen

when you burn it inside the engine you take back the energy you gave during electrolysis with 70% losses to heat

what does it take to figure out this can't work?

when you make alcohol you can start from a higher energy density chemical to a lower energy density chemical thus the net gain in energy will be positive, in theory you can convert sugar to alcohol and run the car with it, alcohol water efficiency may reach up to 70% because water acts as an expansive agent, you can't do this with gasoline or diesel. The problem is that you can't make alcohol fast enough with the current technology for the engine to burn. If enough money is spent I'm pretty sure cars could run on sugars, this is the fuel of nature.



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J. Miller / Re: Stanley A Meyer Q & A October 2021
« Last post by Login to see usernames on October 13, 2021, 10:43:28 am »
Blueteam3  put us on the track of a researcher and inventor from California that was interviewed by
Stan Meyer.    The label of the documentation is 2-13-1988 which would have been a Saturday
which is the customary day that Stan gave lectures at the Deer Creek State Park in Ohio

So far, a search of the known video archives has not turned up a copy of his lecture and demonstration
from that date.,,,,

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Statements have been made by people close to the examination of the Meyer estate that the EPGs had a COP
of about 3. It's possible to look at the physical construction of the EPGs for clues to its operational capabilities

In a car alternator , energy is required to turn  the rotor against  opposing magnetic fields and also to supply
energy to create magnetic fields to induce current in the stator pickup coils.

Very good Jim,

Looking forward to see that interview, when it surfaced....
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J. Miller / Stanley A Meyer Q & A October 2021
« Last post by Login to see usernames on October 12, 2021, 20:45:19 pm »
Blueteam3  put us on the track of a researcher and inventor from California that was interviewed by
Stan Meyer.    The label of the documentation is 2-13-1988 which would have been a Saturday
which is the customary day that Stan gave lectures at the Deer Creek State Park in Ohio

So far, a search of the known video archives has not turned up a copy of his lecture and demonstration
from that date.,,,, but here's a photo  copyright 2021  blueteam3 gmbh

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Statements have been made by people close to the examination of the Meyer estate that the EPGs had a COP
of about 3. It's possible to look at the physical construction of the EPGs for clues to its operational capabilities

In a car alternator , energy is required to turn  the rotor against  opposing magnetic fields and also to supply
energy to create magnetic fields to induce current in the stator pickup coils.



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J. Miller / Re: Stanley A Meyer Multi Tier EPG and BiToroidal Transformers by Thane Hein
« Last post by Login to see usernames on October 12, 2021, 19:54:36 pm »
In the BiTT technology, an additional larger magnetic  flux shunt bridges the  ends of the two secondary coils.  This provides an easier  path for the  magnetic
flux to travel than the smaller bridges at the top an bottom o the two secondary coils.. Because of the magnetic orientation
 of the two secondary pick up coils , the bridge is functioning a a magnetic diode, reducing back EMF (BEMF) and the resulting opposing Lenz forces

In a similar fashion the magnetic pathways connecting  two toroidal coils in a multiple tier EPG (2 spiralled coils) are of unequal sizes or cross section
and serve the same purpose
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fastimports3 / Re: Looking for the right photocatalytic combination to extract electrons
« Last post by Login to see usernames on October 12, 2021, 16:35:37 pm »
Interesting take on the alcohol. So why not just mix it in the fogger and call it a day. It appears Walter Jenkins had done it with as little as 5% fuel inside the fogger and fed to the engine. I figured when I was messing with the fogger one could burn less fuel similar to Paul Pantones design. Except your using ultrasonics to suspend the fuel. If I was in to the business of being popular of what I feel like is a scam or misleading. I could’ve done that years ago. Instead of mixing fuel I want to use the Hydroxy gas. Steve had even pointed it out again to me. Why not mix the fog and the HHO to see if it will respond similar to Walter Jenkins claims.

The other part is a gas engine itself is extremely wasteful in the form of heat, like 70%. We don’t need heat just a expansion of air to drive a piston. Or maybe a vacuum on the piston after top dead center. I haven’t gotten so far as to try and run anything solely on the water gas. I have seen plenty of motors run on HHO. They run cold. So some of that energy that is not available. Wasn’t needed in the first place to run the engine. Because most of the energy the gas provides the engine is lost as heat.
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fastimports3 / Re: Looking for the right photocatalytic combination to extract electrons
« Last post by Login to see usernames on October 12, 2021, 11:54:01 am »
You can make an alcoholic solution by using electrochemical cells (hydrogen burns too fast for engines you can only get a little energy out)  the efficiency, however, is low! I mean 60 minutes to get a 1% solution when you need a 70% solution so with no special setup you will need 70 hours to run a car, a fungus needs 24 hours to make it so electrochemical methods are slower, the ideal setup is in situ production of fuel from water and carbon, the energy density is high enough to make it worth investigating. In short you make carbon dioxide to feed it through the cell and produce oxalates than reduce it by hydrogenation to methanol or ethanol, the efficiency is ultra low so you definitely need specialized setup for this! Custom electrode materials certainly, the electrolyte can be a metal carbonate. I believe the limiting step is hydrogenation so it definitely needs research because bubbling hydrogen through the cell is not easy, the hydrogen generated near the electrode is of very low concentration so if you concentrate it somewhere and feed it through again it can make the process faster but the storage and gas lines are complicated to build but the most important step if to design and make the catalysts for the electrodes. Current research is focusing  on chemisorbed species, it is hopeless, how do you avoid catalyst poisoning if you have 10 different chemisorbed ions?

In short without bothering with stoichiometry or charges

C + O2 -> CO2
2CO2 + H2O -> C2O4 2- + OH- + H+
C2O4 2-  + H2  -> CH3CH2OH + H2O  rate limiting step




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J. Miller / Re: Stanley A Meyer Multi Tier EPG and BiToroidal Transformers by Thane Hein
« Last post by Login to see usernames on October 12, 2021, 11:45:22 am »
Hi Jim,

What if we just use the hho gas pressure to shoot a magnet thru coils? In a circle, or so.
Or drive some sort of  airclosed windturbine.........

Should work, ill gues...
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The basics / Re: The fallacy of modern EM
« Last post by Login to see usernames on October 12, 2021, 08:27:48 am »
I just want to bring up what I see as the main difference in the alternator vs the EPG when it comes to producing power and efficiencies..   We will never get fully way from the counter electromotive force.. But we can work to get rid of a good amount of CEMF while maintaining the same power out.. The goal of any generator is to create strong fluxuating B fields within the loops of coils.. You cannot create a rotor on a armature that has strong fluxuating magnetic fields within the loop because the loop obstructs the ability of a iron material to pass through.. So Stan came up with a way to get strong fluxing magnetic material to pass through the loops without the need of a rotor/armature by using a tubular passage to carry strong B field generating materials like iron.  So now if we think about the alternator and what the purpose of a stator core is.. i think we can consider it a magnetic field amplifier.. it allows the rotors magnetic field to induce the needed strong magnetic field fluxuations in the center of the pickup coils.. the stator core carries an excess of CEMF to be able to work. so a stator core style generator has the inherent problem of how it goes about in getting strong B field fluxuations into the center of the pickup coils.

 If you read stans EPG patent and look into the reference patents you will see a patent from batelle where they created a unit a lot like a EPG but it used solid magnetic spheres being passed through a tube with pickup coils and the magnetic spheres are being propelled by air.


There are people claiming that Meyer was using the bemf.....not blocking it....
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