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## Stanley Meyer => Stanley Meyer => Stanley's Vic => Topic started by: outlawstc on March 04, 2009, 09:49:15 am

Title: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 04, 2009, 09:49:15 am
this topic will be of the alternator
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 04, 2009, 09:52:25 am
notice the way the polarty are shown in tube cell drawing.. they are numbered 123123123123.. those represent each phases interaction with the cell and is really happening very fast. in up traveling motion.. here is an example of the sine waves again this time i added a sine showing there polarity and and off time. i just had to go over my research again me and kevin west are going over this right now. he though the alternator only put out i think 60 hertz no matter speer of the rotor.. wikipedia says a 6 pole alternator will put off 60 hertz at 1200 rpms. so rotor speed does fluxuate frequency.  the math goes like this for determining alternator frequency for the rpm speed..
lets say 1200 rpms.. we divide it by 60 seconds and get 20.. that means that each phase is putting of 20 hertz each.. 120 out from each other.. so with all three phases connected it gives 60hertz. but u gotta understand the vic sync pulse schematic is the frequency multiplier  notice the wave it makes compared the sine wave, it doubled. knowing that you must add one more calculation to your result 60... you gotta times it by 2 since it is a double freq. now we have 120 hertz at 1200rpms.. and its easier math to boot..5000 rpm is 500hertz,   6000 rpm is 600hertz and so on.
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 04, 2009, 10:13:31 am
Synchronous speeds

The output frequency of an alternator depends on the number of poles and the rotational speed. The speed corresponding to a particular frequency is called the synchronous speed for that frequency. This table [6] gives some examples:
Poles    RPM at 50 Hz    RPM at 60 Hz
2                      3000        3600
4                     1500        1800
6                     1000             1200
8                       750          900
10                       600          720
12                       500          600
14                      428.6           514.3
16                       375          450
18                       333.3          400
20                       300          360

More generally, one cycle of alternating current is produced each time a pair of field poles passes over a point on the stationary winding. The relation between speed and frequency is N = 120f / P , where f is the frequency in Hz (cycles per second). P is the number of poles (2,4,6...) and N is the rotational speed in revolutions per minute (RPM). Very old descriptions of alternating current systems sometimes give the frequency in terms of alternations per minute, counting each half-cycle as one alternation; so 12,000 alternations per minute corresponds to 100 Hz.

outlawstc
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 04, 2009, 21:37:32 pm
my latest post have been on the right path but still needed some kinks worked out.. when i started reading more into the voltage wave guide section i notice how stan was speaking of dynamics and static variables and oscillation. so it made me think what if he was using the alternators sequence to give it a mix of steam resosnat pulse and static.. it sounded logical for the oscillation.. but then i came across some other information that corrected that thought.

To ensure and maintain Capacitance Charging Effect (650) of Figure (7-4) across Water--
Gap (Cp) of (7-8) during applied pulsing operations (49a xxx 49n), Crossover Voltage Wave-Form
(780B) as to (780C) of Figure (8-2) is generally utilized by not allowing Convergent Point "Q" of
Figure (780B) to reach Electrical Ground Point (OV) when each Unipolar Voltage Pulse (Vpp) is
electrical energized in phase-distance relationship to cause the trailing edge (Vpb) of the first
Voltage-Pulse (Vppl) to meet the uprising leading edge (Vpa) of the second Voltage Pulse Wave
(Vpp2) at a distance above ground state (OV) determined by the Space-movement of the reforming
Voltage Peak Wave (Vppa xxx Vppn) within Voltage Pulse Width (TI), as illustrated in Rotary
Crossover Voltage Sync-Pulse Circuit (850) of Figure (8-11) where each VIC Pickup Coils (52A-
52B -52C) are axially spaced 120ยท apart to cause Convergent Point "Q" to be located 1/3 the height
of Voltage Amplitude Peak Level (Vpp),

Voltage Dynamics (220) of Figure (3-29) under the law of
physics which states "opposite electrical charges attracts",

Beyond amp restricting characteristic of said Amp Inhibiting Circuit (970) of Figure (10-1) as to
Voltage Intensifier Circuit (60) of Figure (3-22), the spiral-wrapped coils (Resonant Charging Chokes
56/62) being paired together, also, causes voltage level enhancement beyond applied voltage input since
the "Distributed Capacitance" (C1a xxx C1n - C2a xxx C2n) / "Distributed Inductance" (FL1a xxx FL1n
- FL2a xxx FL2n) of said "bifilar" wrapped coils (Figure 7-3) as to (990) of Figure (10-3) encourages
the compounding effect (increasing magnetic field-strength during each pulsing cycle) of
electromagnetic field-strength (Rp 1 a xxx Rp 1 n - Rp2a xxx Rp2n) (mutual induction) when applied
Pulse-Voltage frequency (49a xxx 49n) of Figure (334) passes through the positive energized Resonant
Charging Choke (56). Furthermore, the paired coil-wires opposite voltage potential [ positive electrical
attraction force (B+) - negative electrical attraction force (B-)] [ hereinafter called Electrical Stress (SS'
- RR') as to (160) of Figure (3-26)] are always equal in electrical magnitude/intensity since the wirelength
of each coil are the same. Pulse-Voltage repetition rate sets up the step-up charging effect Figure
(1-3) since the "Resonant Cavity" (Cp) functions as a "Capacitor" (ER) due to the dielectric value of the
liquid (or gases) which becomes an integral part of the VIC Circuit

so by using the 3 phases that are 120 out from each other  so now i can see the logic in by haveing both positive and negative pulse at the same amplitude it causes the law of attraction of like charges and force of deflection.
the static voltage would be Q the point at which each pulse overlap and meet.. im still looking further into clipped pulse

outlawstc
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 05, 2009, 00:00:03 am
Great work , keep working @ it , excited to see your evolution .

Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 05, 2009, 00:45:10 am
HERE A VERSION OF 6-1 WITH SYNC PULSE
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 05, 2009, 16:13:42 pm
Outlaw. In the picture of the sine waves you posted , showing each phase. I have witnessed exactly this in my cell.It looks like a bunch of little magnetic feilds rising up out of the cell between the plates. As the cell is run it becomes more evident as to what is happening. I didnt realise what was happening untill you posted the picture of the sinewaves with each phase, Then I could see what was really happening in the cell. What I dont under stand is where this center tap is comimg off from the alternators stator.  I honestly believe your are on the right track in figuring this alternator schematic of Stans out. So  Let the knowledge that passeth all understand come forth.Thanks Much.
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 05, 2009, 18:55:37 pm
hi water,
.. you will need to get with dankie and get some stainless for the center tap... figure a alternator has 12 loops per phase on the stator.. check out waterforfuel.com and you can find some rewind kits.. or you can figure out how its done with some simple observation and u can buy your own wire and do it yourself.. the center tap is tapped in between loops 6 and 7 of each stator winding.. it splits the secondary in half.... i have a video explaning the center tap
i think it is there too.. i havent had a chance to replicate this yet.. all though once 6-1 is finished it will be a waste of time to make this unit.. since you can have the same thing without a rotary power source.... but im glad my drawing are giving a more vivd understanding to the workings of the elusive vic.

cheers
outlawstc
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 06, 2009, 16:31:36 pm
Outlaw, Thanks my friend.  You have been very helpful. Will do some more experimenting on the stator winds to see how the CT works. Very infoemative video. Thanks again.
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 06, 2009, 17:11:04 pm
What is that unrelated stuff in the video ?  Lets keep things serious , we are just talking about groundbreaking science here .
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 06, 2009, 17:27:30 pm
lol loosen up dankie.. the video got its point across and with some humor.. sure its ground breaking science but. i had to put the buzz in the mix lol. since he likes to talk shit about peoples videos. as for the drunks dont mind them.. as for pastor troy.. thats one of the realest songs you can listen to. vice versa. i cant help it he has a ninja on and is mean muggin before you hit play..

cheers
outlawstc
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 06, 2009, 19:52:50 pm
HERES SOME THOUGHT FOR THE BRIZANE.
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 06, 2009, 22:11:01 pm
when stan says that voltage would rise as high as the electronics would allow it to..  that's determined by more winds... the copper chokes are for potential storage and electron extraction. the emf transformer keeps displacing electron's into negative copper choke each pulse..180 in and 180 out..  i would say there are two types of current in electric... current that has a high and low forced by oscillating the electrons present.. and current during the process of separating charges. it is said you can strip all the electrons from a atom and it will still hold its structure.. but will have the positive charge of the mass protons. a emf transformer current in secondary  is depending upon frequency applied.. higher frequency's make higher current. so when alternator speeds up in rpm's its going into higher frequency's for instance a 6 pole alternator puts out 3 oscillations in 1 full rotation so 1200 rpm divded by 60 seconds equals 20rev per second times 3 oscillations per rotation is 60 hertz.. the vic sync pulse is frequency multiplier. it will make 1200 rpm 120 hertz per phase.  so we can say vic sync pulsing circuit output at 5000 rpm is 500 hertz..  so you can see theres a hertz variable  involved with rpms..  i would be inclined to say that when you gate a signal into primary and cut it off.. the pulse echo's in a resonant action between primary and secondary.since every time the positve ss choke trys to reverse flow and allow positve charge into primary it is creating emf  since the curent has no choice but to cross the primary to ground. and corecting its self. or at least slowing down the discharge of the potential.

cheers
outlawstc
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 06, 2009, 22:21:58 pm
when stan says that voltage would rise as high as the electronics would allow it to..  that's determined by more winds... the copper chokes are for potential storage and electron extraction. the emf transformer keeps displacing electron's into negative copper choke each pulse..180 in and 180 out..  i would say there are two types of current in electric... current that has a high and low forced by oscillating the electrons present.. and current during the process of separating charges. it is said you can strip all the electrons from a atom and it will still hold its structure.. but will have the positive charge of the mass protons. a emf transformer current in secondary  is depending upon frequency applied.. higher frequency's make higher current. so when alternator speeds up in rpm's its going into higher frequency's for instance a 6 pole alternator puts out 3 oscillations in 1 full rotation so 1200 rpm divded by 60 seconds equals 20rev per second times 3 oscillations per rotation is 60 hertz.. the vic sync pulse is frequency multiplier. it will make 1200 rpm 120 hertz per phase.  so we can say vic sync pulsing circuit output at 5000 rpm is 500 hertz..  so you can see theres a hertz variable  involved with rpms..  i would be inclined to say that when you gate a signal into primary and cut it off.. the pulse echo's in a resonant action between primary and secondary.since every time the positve ss choke trys to reverse flow and allow positve charge into primary it is creating emf  since the curent has no choice but to cross the primary to ground. and corecting its self. or at least slowing down the discharge of the potential.

cheers
outlawstc

I'm not sure I fully understand but its interresting , trying to wrap my mind around all this .
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 07, 2009, 00:09:54 am
dankie dont let this confuse you with 6-1.. 6-1 is different since it shares primary on same core..  6-1 secondary's are isolated electrically  from primary since its on the same core it has mutual inductance and reactance. i think 6-1 stores a negative charge(more electrons) on one half of the secondary while the positive remains short of electrons.. having positve charge..   i suggest maybe winding one like my 6-1 sync pulse schematic..

outlawstc
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 07, 2009, 19:04:15 pm
question to all.. you know when your in a auditorium and the speaker gets on the mic.. you start hearing a echo which keeps mulipying in intensity? until it is a a constant screech that can only be stopped  by turning down mic sensitivity or the volume of the speaker..  you should be able to do that with the alternator right? since its main driving force for frequency isnt by current but by rotational speed of the poles.

outlawstc
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 07, 2009, 20:25:29 pm
incoming signal (49a xxx 49n) is electrically linked with Water-Gap Capacitor (Cp)
Damn, missed this one, 49 is from pulser

it is to prevent coil ringing, why does this setup prevent coil ringing?
why would you want to prevent coil ringing?

is 49 when on/high at the same level as groundstate (level of cutoff,  Q )? that would make sense.

gr8 work btw
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 07, 2009, 20:41:29 pm
question to all.. you know when your in a auditorium and the speaker gets on the mic.. you start hearing a echo which keeps mulipying in intensity? until it is a a constant screech that can only be stopped  by turning down mic sensitivity or the volume of the speaker..  you should be able to do that with the alternator right? since its main driving force for frequency isnt by current but by rotational speed of the poles.

outlawstc
this the compounding effect, right?
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 07, 2009, 22:16:13 pm
i think the positive stainless choke during pulse 49a xxx 49n feeds electrons onto positive side of magnetic induction of the primary.. resulting in electron flow back threw primary winding causing primary emf generation during both pulse on and off time... . it just seem like it would work... like the positive side of the capacitor is electrically linked to the primary's positive and the negative exciter is electrically linked in the middle of secondary.. by a center tap being in the center of secondary with diode placed where positive energy can flow into the secondary and send electrons on 180in and 180 out.. .. it would also give logical explanation what on fig 10-1 it  labels the core as secondary and positive as primary...  seems like it might be on the right path.. but still confusing as hell lol..  i think when stan speaks of resonance it may not be resonance of the power sources out but because a alternators frequency changes with rpms.. for instance 5000 rpm is 500 hertz so we could pulse it with 0-20khz and gate that but the output soucre frequency will not remaln constant. nor will its amplitude??? its main goal is to create as pure of a high potential engery source as possible.. reducing its snap back action from phase shift.
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 07, 2009, 23:02:17 pm
The Hall effect comes about due to the nature of the current in a conductor. Current consists of the movement of many small charge carriers, typically electrons, holes, or both. Moving charges experience a force, called the Lorentz Force, when a magnetic field is present that is not parallel to their motion.[2] When such a magnetic field is absent, the charges follow an approximately straight, 'line of sight' path. However, when a perpendicular magnetic field is applied, their path is curved so that moving charges accumulate on one face of the material. This leaves equal and opposite charges exposed on the other face, where there is a scarcity of mobile charges. The result is an asymmetric distribution of charge density across the Hall element that is perpendicular to both the 'line of sight' path and the applied magnetic field. The separation of charge establishes an electric field that opposes the migration of further charge, so a steady electrical potential builds up for as long as the charge is flowing.

Ferrite toroid Hall effect current transducer
Hall sensors can detect stray magnetic fields easily, including that of Earth, so they work well as electronic compasses: but this also means that such stray fields can hinder accurate measurements of small magnetic fields. To solve this problem, Hall sensors are often integrated with magnetic shielding of some kind. For example, a Hall sensor integrated into a ferrite ring (as shown) can reduce stray fields by a factor of 100 or better. This configuration also provides an improvement in signal-to-noise ratio and drift effects of over 20 times that of a 'bare' Hall device. The range of a given feedthrough sensor may be extended upward and downward by appropriate wiring. To extend the range to lower currents, multiple turns of the current-carrying wire may be made through the opening. To extend the range to higher currents, a current divider may be used. The divider splits the current across two wires of differing widths and the thinner wire, carrying a smaller proportion of the total current, passes through the sensor.

The principle of increasing the number of 'turns' a conductor takes around the ferrite core is well understood, each turn having the effect of 'amplifying' the current under measurement. Often these additional turns are carried out by a staple on the PCB.

Analog multiplication

The output is proportional to both the applied magnetic field and the applied sensor voltage. If the magnetic field is applied by a solenoid, the sensor output is proportional to product of the current through the solenoid and the sensor voltage. As most applications requiring computation are now performed by small (even tiny) digital computers, the remaining useful application is in power sensing, which combines current sensing with voltage sensing in a single Hall effect device.

references----http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect#Quantum_Hall_effect

outlaw
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 07, 2009, 23:14:08 pm
The Hall effect comes about due to the nature of the current in a conductor. Current consists of the movement of many small charge carriers, typically electrons, holes, or both. Moving charges experience a force, called the Lorentz Force, when a magnetic field is present that is not parallel to their motion.[2] When such a magnetic field is absent, the charges follow an approximately straight, 'line of sight' path. However, when a perpendicular magnetic field is applied, their path is curved so that moving charges accumulate on one face of the material. This leaves equal and opposite charges exposed on the other face, where there is a scarcity of mobile charges. The result is an asymmetric distribution of charge density across the Hall element that is perpendicular to both the 'line of sight' path and the applied magnetic field. The separation of charge establishes an electric field that opposes the migration of further charge, so a steady electrical potential builds up for as long as the charge is flowing.

Ferrite toroid Hall effect current transducer
Hall sensors can detect stray magnetic fields easily, including that of Earth, so they work well as electronic compasses: but this also means that such stray fields can hinder accurate measurements of small magnetic fields. To solve this problem, Hall sensors are often integrated with magnetic shielding of some kind. For example, a Hall sensor integrated into a ferrite ring (as shown) can reduce stray fields by a factor of 100 or better. This configuration also provides an improvement in signal-to-noise ratio and drift effects of over 20 times that of a 'bare' Hall device. The range of a given feedthrough sensor may be extended upward and downward by appropriate wiring. To extend the range to lower currents, multiple turns of the current-carrying wire may be made through the opening. To extend the range to higher currents, a current divider may be used. The divider splits the current across two wires of differing widths and the thinner wire, carrying a smaller proportion of the total current, passes through the sensor.

The principle of increasing the number of 'turns' a conductor takes around the ferrite core is well understood, each turn having the effect of 'amplifying' the current under measurement. Often these additional turns are carried out by a staple on the PCB.

Analog multiplication

The output is proportional to both the applied magnetic field and the applied sensor voltage. If the magnetic field is applied by a solenoid, the sensor output is proportional to product of the current through the solenoid and the sensor voltage. As most applications requiring computation are now performed by small (even tiny) digital computers, the remaining useful application is in power sensing, which combines current sensing with voltage sensing in a single Hall effect device.

references----http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect#Quantum_Hall_effect

outlaw

very interresting .

Is this how they created the transistor ?
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 08, 2009, 00:24:56 am
this is a excel spreadsheet..  that calculates hydrogen required with input variables. like cc's of motor and rpms.. i dont know if its accurate with default ratios.. maybe hydro can tell us what they should be?

outlawstc
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 08, 2009, 02:03:57 am
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 08, 2009, 03:20:22 am
outlawstc

Pretty cool vid

Spike ;D
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 08, 2009, 07:22:53 am
stan meyers has myspace people lol. long story short i dont know who made it but check out this images i got off of it.

cheers
outlawstc
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 08, 2009, 07:27:08 am
maybe someone with more technical skillz can make a parts list and a better undertsanding for what all the IC's are for???
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 08, 2009, 17:05:17 pm
4584 = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmitt_trigger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmitt_trigger)
4585 = 4bit comparator http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-bit_Magnitude_Comparator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-bit_Magnitude_Comparator)
4081 = logic and
4001 = logic nor ( inverted or )
4013 = flip-flop  http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Digital_Circuits/Flip-Flops (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Digital_Circuits/Flip-Flops)

http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/components/cmos.htm (http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/components/cmos.htm)

top 4081 is output

someone posted a scan of coil orientation dots, can't find anymore, if you know where, pls post.
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 08, 2009, 18:50:46 pm
Quote
someone posted a scan of coil orientation dots, can't find anymore, if you know where, pls post.

im not sure of what image you are speaking of. stan has a few with pole orientaion dots..

cheers
outlawstc
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 08, 2009, 20:09:42 pm
I think kinesis posted it
I forgot how the dots indicate winding direction
Title: Re: alternator vic voltage burst sync pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 12, 2009, 02:59:46 am
just want to point out how dynamic voltage peaks become more interactive with the water at higher amplitudes...