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Post by: Login to see usernames on February 26, 2009, 16:05:42 pm
Found this on my HD
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 09, 2009, 18:19:29 pm
The Work that is Created by Means of Potential Field

http://www.alternativkanalen.com/work.html (http://www.alternativkanalen.com/work.html)
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 15, 2009, 21:45:06 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_wave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_wave)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavity_resonator#Cavity_resonators (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavity_resonator#Cavity_resonators)

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Standing waves in resonators are one cause of the phenomenon called resonance.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 19, 2009, 13:31:10 pm
http://rapidshare.com/files/211364172/Waveguide_Handbook__Microwave_1986_.pdf.html
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 19, 2009, 16:56:19 pm
i have the 1951 volume 10 and volume 9 books as of now......volume 10 is the wave guide handbook ......volume 9 is the microwave transmission circuits......to allow your cell to run as a tuned antenna is a key part....impedance mathcing......Xl=Xc...for maximum power flow or else almost all of the energy will be reflected back.......
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 19, 2009, 17:05:17 pm
what about the cell being NOT tuned (Xl > Xc),
and letting the energy reflect (don't know how this happens),
so planar stationary waves are created (the waves are reflected backward at the end of the waveguide, combined with the forward waves forming stationary waves).

just a thought, probably wrong


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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 19, 2009, 20:42:03 pm
see i have heard stan say inductance has to be greater than capacitance.....or XL> XC but i have heard stephen meyers say more recently that it has to work as a tuned antenna or else all of our power will be reflected back if the impedance is not matched........this is why once again i have a spectrum analyzer......it is so difficult to think of the inner workings of this vic in conjunction with a water capacitor since the vic is a coil that has never been understood before.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 19, 2009, 21:08:24 pm
the analyzer definitely  would make life easier and give some more insight into the frequency response.

where have you hear him say that?
waterfuel museum interview?
if so, do you remember which part?
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 19, 2009, 22:58:19 pm
yeah i just recently posted something under the vic photo discussion thread about stephen saying it and the link to his interview.......i can't remember where stan said xl >xc though.....but i remember it.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 20, 2009, 16:17:37 pm
page 7-10
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In terms of Component Reactance, Inductors (LIIL2) should always be larger than Capacitor
(ER) of Figure (7-2) in order to maximize amp restriction
I think he talks about the frequency at which Xl is max and Xc is min
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 20, 2009, 18:10:19 pm
exactly but then recently stephen meyer mentioned impedance matching.......so we will see.......
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 20, 2009, 18:53:01 pm
gonna look for the stephen interview

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_reflection
Impedance discontinuities cause attenuation, attenuation distortion, standing waves, and other effects because a portion of a transmitted signal will be reflected back to the transmitting device rather than continuing to the receiver, much like an echo.

but then again, meyer didn't talk about waves reflected/bounced back in the wfc itself.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 21, 2009, 12:09:02 pm
http://www.youtube.com/user/skycollection
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 21, 2009, 13:21:53 pm
This one is more accessible
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 21, 2009, 17:37:20 pm
but then again, meyer didn't talk about waves reflected/bounced back in the wfc itself.

you may be on to something here......remember the electron bounce phenomenon
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 15:15:26 pm
rubberbanding effect = stationary wave = scalar wave

The resultant ever increasing pulsating opposite electrical voltage fields (603/604a xxx
603/604n) of Figure (8-1) having superimposed thereon counter opposing Rippling Voltage-
Surfaces (64/B+a xxx 64/B-n) [Dynamic Electrica1 Charging Effect (612) of Figure (8-1B)], now,
set ups, causes, and applies ever increasing (rubberbanding effect) Pulsating Opposite Electrical
Stress (RU-RU' - ST-ST') across Water Gap (Cp) ... encouraging "Particle Oscillation" as a.
"Energy Generator"
 ;D ;D

(http://phoenix.phys.clemson.edu/labs/224/standwave/10.jpg)

what do ya think?
please comment
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 15:36:02 pm
guess I misunderstood the above  ::)
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 16:00:04 pm
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Standing_wave

this, except with voltage;
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 16:02:49 pm
hahah i think he means rubber band effect as is in the stretching and pulling of the water molecule over and over again.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 16:09:18 pm
hahah i think he means rubber band effect as is in the stretching and pulling of the water molecule over and over again.

There is something with the opposing waves , what the term *rubber-banding* means is not necessary to understand , it is jargon .



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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 16:15:11 pm
I remember how Bearden talked about how you could *tickle* a dipole and a charge would appear from nowhere , it would  *act as a capacitor*  without us *putting any electrons* into it ... The charge would appear from nowhere , from the nucleaus itself .

I think he referred to this as *pumping* ...

I believe we have underestimated this side of the story .
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 16:23:08 pm
jargon or a big hint to what the voltage looks like, comparing it to the rubberbanding effect in the picture above.

you've read that in the precursor engineering doc, these docs possibly explain it more in depth.

voltage standing wave ratio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VSWR

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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 16:28:53 pm
Lets say it was possible to *charge* a water capacitor without any electrons flowing through , what if we could *tickle the state space* or *pump* that water and somehow , someway , it keeps that *electrical charge* and we let its own charge (coming from nowhere) break itself in a unipolar way , with the diode in the circuit .

This seems to be a bit similar to avramenko , some crazy unknown thing .
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 16:29:59 pm
hahah i think he means rubber band effect as is in the stretching and pulling of the water molecule over and over again.
perhaps :)
it's an option

since the voltage waves travel inside the wfc wave guide, standing waves are a possibility. I connected the dot's, perhaps to the wrong ones
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 16:33:32 pm
Lets say it was possible to *charge* a water capacitor without any electrons flowing through , what if we could *tickle the state space* or *pump* that water and lets its own charge break itself in a unipolar way , with the diode in the circuit .

This seems to be a bit similar to avramenko
can you repost the avramenko pdf? you posted it before on energeticforum

7-9
Dielectric property of water opposes amp leakage (Re) while another property of water takes-on
an "Electrical Charge".

can't remember if meyer explained what this property is.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 16:35:26 pm
hahah i think he means rubber band effect as is in the stretching and pulling of the water molecule over and over again.
perhaps :)
it's an option

since the voltage waves travel inside the wfc wave guide, standing waves are a possibility. I connected the dot's, perhaps to the wrong ones

Its not like Kinesis says it is 4 sure , obviously there is something missing here and theres all this theoretical physics wich seems to point in the same direction .

In this situation , with this specific tech from Meyers , it is indeed a 0 voltage field , I am very intrigued by this .

This is not Bob Boyce or Puharich or w/e , he really means what he says .
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 16:37:55 pm
Lets say it was possible to *charge* a water capacitor without any electrons flowing through , what if we could *tickle the state space* or *pump* that water and lets its own charge break itself in a unipolar way , with the diode in the circuit .

This seems to be a bit similar to avramenko
can you repost the avramenko pdf? you posted it before on energeticforum

7-9
Dielectric property of water opposes amp leakage (Re) while another property of water takes-on
an "Electrical Charge".

can't remember if meyer explained what this property is.

Too lazy , plz search for it , I am banned .
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 16:55:35 pm
by dankie
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http://www.cazv.cz/2003/2002/tech1_02/Strebkov.pdf

After Studying Stans work , i concluded that it it revolutionnary technology with many groundbreaking new electromagnetic concepts fused together in a specatular human engineering achievement . I concluded this after a result of elimination . It is a mix of Avrakenko's single wire reactance transmission , and a mix of "scalar net zero fields"

This is indeed a net zero field that is meant here , knowing this , and going by the apparent lenght of the injector , i'd say this "scalar possibility" seems very plausible

Knowing this , If the potential field (and here I mean the vector potential as it vibrates longitudinally) plays an important role in Meyer technology, then I think it works more as a "solvent" of the covalent bonding, weakening it. How? As the vector potential changes, so does the quantum phase of an electron, that much is known fact in physics (it's a variation of the Aharanov-Bohm effect). So the covalent electrons would be affected at their most fundamental level, which may change their relation to the hydrogen and oxygen nuclei enough to weaken then bonding. That last part is just my speculation.

Its interresting to see tho , what Hutshison managed to do with solid metal and his tesla coil , he litterally made jelly out of solide metal , so why cant we "make jelly out of water" ... make it even more liduid that liduid state lol ....

Once loosened, you then also need an actual DC electric field to pull the water molecule apart ( electrical polarization process). It would then pull apart easier than without the "solvent" action of the potential field. So the stainless steel tubes are still necessary and must be in contact with the water. The tubes would function as a longitudinal vector potential antenna on top of providing the DC field/current to tug on the water molecule. Wouldnt a net zero field be the same as our initial condition ?

Let's say you hooked up the WFC as indicated. The voltage on both sides of the cell would then be equal since that is the nature of a single-wire transmission line. Therefore no voltage difference exists across the water gap, and no electric field, and thus no electron current either. However, the voltage, despite being equal across the gap, still changes over time due to the whole thing being powered by a tesla coil. Therefore the water would be exposed to a gradient-free time-varying scalar potential as I wrote in the post above. Perhaps this alone will not split the water. That's why Avramenko in that article said there was only a cold plasma, and no gas-generation. But -- if on top of this field, you added a small DC field (say from a 12 Volt supply), then you would be exerting a polarizing stress onto the water molecule that is already being exposed to this exotic Avramenko energy. That is what occurs in the Meyer VIC circuit if you hook up the bifilar coil with both coils in phase.

That's why I suspected the two same high voltages were being applied to inner and outer tubes of the WFC so that without a voltage gradient between the two (except the one maintained by the blocking diode) there is no additional current flow through the water from the high voltage and thus water conductivity from impurities wasn't a factor.

You could have a gradient-free scalar potential field that oscillates over time. What kind of work does this produce? Well, the Lorentz gauge shows that divergence of the vector potential is proportional to the time rate of change of scalar potential. Further, divergence of the vector potential is also proportional to charge density. Therefore if you have an oscillating voltage field, gradient-free, you would have oscillating charge density. This means the water molecule, being a dipole, would shrink and expand when exposed to such a field. The field would shrink and expand the electron shells too, perhaps switching off that covalent bonding electron pair and allowing the DC field maintained by the blocking diode to easily pull apart the water molecule.

[For those of you unfamiliar with those terms, scalar potential is basically the 'voltage' field from which an electric field arises when there is a gradient in it, while vector potential, aka "A-vec", is the 'flux' field from which magnetism arises when there is circulation in it].


If you notice in this montage from chapter 7/8 , Stan mentions a "non-voltage shift" , the "amp-inhibiting coil" is indeede balancing this to perfection so we end up with "total and perfect annihilation" of the two opposing waves


"Snapping Action" (Rubberbanding effect)

Clipped Unipolar Pulse Train (780C) is used to encourage further increase
in atomic dwell-time capable of raising Atomic Energy Level (AEI) of the Water Atoms to even a higher
energy-state
before Snapping-Action occurs
when Unipolar Pulse Wave (Upw) returns to ground state
(Vo) after voltage propagation (Vpa/Vpb). Of course, the repetition-rate of."Atomic SnappingAction"
(Asa) (the number of Voltage Pulse Fields Vpf occurring per unit of space-time) directly determines the
resultant energy level of Static Electrical Charging Effect (585) of Figure (8-1) since “Particle
Oscillation" is being used as a “Energy Generator" (EGpo),
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 17:00:14 pm
by dankie
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http://www.cazv.cz/2003/2002/tech1_02/Strebkov.pdf

After Studying Stans work , i concluded that it it revolutionnary technology with many groundbreaking new electromagnetic concepts fused together in a specatular human engineering achievement . I concluded this after a result of elimination . It is a mix of Avrakenko's single wire reactance transmission , and a mix of "scalar net zero fields"

This is indeed a net zero field that is meant here , knowing this , and going by the apparent lenght of the injector , i'd say this "scalar possibility" seems very plausible

Knowing this , If the potential field (and here I mean the vector potential as it vibrates longitudinally) plays an important role in Meyer technology, then I think it works more as a "solvent" of the covalent bonding, weakening it. How? As the vector potential changes, so does the quantum phase of an electron, that much is known fact in physics (it's a variation of the Aharanov-Bohm effect). So the covalent electrons would be affected at their most fundamental level, which may change their relation to the hydrogen and oxygen nuclei enough to weaken then bonding. That last part is just my speculation.

Its interresting to see tho , what Hutshison managed to do with solid metal and his tesla coil , he litterally made jelly out of solide metal , so why cant we "make jelly out of water" ... make it even more liduid that liduid state lol ....

Once loosened, you then also need an actual DC electric field to pull the water molecule apart ( electrical polarization process). It would then pull apart easier than without the "solvent" action of the potential field. So the stainless steel tubes are still necessary and must be in contact with the water. The tubes would function as a longitudinal vector potential antenna on top of providing the DC field/current to tug on the water molecule. Wouldnt a net zero field be the same as our initial condition ?

Let's say you hooked up the WFC as indicated. The voltage on both sides of the cell would then be equal since that is the nature of a single-wire transmission line. Therefore no voltage difference exists across the water gap, and no electric field, and thus no electron current either. However, the voltage, despite being equal across the gap, still changes over time due to the whole thing being powered by a tesla coil. Therefore the water would be exposed to a gradient-free time-varying scalar potential as I wrote in the post above. Perhaps this alone will not split the water. That's why Avramenko in that article said there was only a cold plasma, and no gas-generation. But -- if on top of this field, you added a small DC field (say from a 12 Volt supply), then you would be exerting a polarizing stress onto the water molecule that is already being exposed to this exotic Avramenko energy. That is what occurs in the Meyer VIC circuit if you hook up the bifilar coil with both coils in phase.

That's why I suspected the two same high voltages were being applied to inner and outer tubes of the WFC so that without a voltage gradient between the two (except the one maintained by the blocking diode) there is no additional current flow through the water from the high voltage and thus water conductivity from impurities wasn't a factor.

You could have a gradient-free scalar potential field that oscillates over time. What kind of work does this produce? Well, the Lorentz gauge shows that divergence of the vector potential is proportional to the time rate of change of scalar potential. Further, divergence of the vector potential is also proportional to charge density. Therefore if you have an oscillating voltage field, gradient-free, you would have oscillating charge density. This means the water molecule, being a dipole, would shrink and expand when exposed to such a field. The field would shrink and expand the electron shells too, perhaps switching off that covalent bonding electron pair and allowing the DC field maintained by the blocking diode to easily pull apart the water molecule.

[For those of you unfamiliar with those terms, scalar potential is basically the 'voltage' field from which an electric field arises when there is a gradient in it, while vector potential, aka "A-vec", is the 'flux' field from which magnetism arises when there is circulation in it].


If you notice in this montage from chapter 7/8 , Stan mentions a "non-voltage shift" , the "amp-inhibiting coil" is indeede balancing this to perfection so we end up with "total and perfect annihilation" of the two opposing waves


"Snapping Action" (Rubberbanding effect)

Clipped Unipolar Pulse Train (780C) is used to encourage further increase
in atomic dwell-time capable of raising Atomic Energy Level (AEI) of the Water Atoms to even a higher
energy-state
before Snapping-Action occurs
when Unipolar Pulse Wave (Upw) returns to ground state
(Vo) after voltage propagation (Vpa/Vpb). Of course, the repetition-rate of."Atomic SnappingAction"
(Asa) (the number of Voltage Pulse Fields Vpf occurring per unit of space-time) directly determines the
resultant energy level of Static Electrical Charging Effect (585) of Figure (8-1) since “Particle
Oscillation" is being used as a “Energy Generator" (EGpo),

Lol I quoted that from Hdemartin . Those words are not from me .

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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 17:01:29 pm

Clipped Unipolar Pulse Train (780C) is used to encourage further increase
in atomic dwell-time capable of raising Atomic Energy Level (AEI) of the Water Atoms to even a higher
energy-state
before Snapping-Action occurs
when Unipolar Pulse Wave (Upw) returns to ground state
(Vo) after voltage propagation (Vpa/Vpb). Of course, the repetition-rate of."Atomic SnappingAction"
(Asa) (the number of Voltage Pulse Fields Vpf occurring per unit of space-time) directly determines the
resultant energy level of Static Electrical Charging Effect (585) of Figure (8-1) since “Particle
Oscillation" is being used as a “Energy Generator"
(EGpo),





Interresting quote
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 17:04:39 pm
its the way the charged particles of the atoms react to the super opposing fields in that state of space.. that are rubber banding.

proton and and electrons  want to fall in opposite directions and are being pushed in opposite directions..  

stephen meyer brought up somthin interesting in one of the radio blogs.. he asked why is snow white.. and also said it is a big key to this technology

i have been pondering on it and these are my perspectives
snow is white because it is reflecting light...  water is tranperent because its absorbing all light and allowing it to pass though..

but somthing to really really focus on is that light can make transparent water evaporate and turn into white clouds in a EXPANDED STATE.. and snow is also in a EXPANDED STATE and it is white.  WATER EXPANDS IN BOTH OPPOSING TEMPERATURE STATES.    so what i think stan and stephen are trying to say is pure light itself can help surge water into higher EXPANDED STATE. for easier removal of electrons in the hfp.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 17:10:49 pm
@dankie
good you posted nonetheless, interesting theory  ;D

yes!
there you have it, the other property of water that gets charged.
the waterparticles get charged by the EM energy generated due to the electrons moving through 585.

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external electrical force (66/67) can alter the electromagnetic properties of a
atom since electromagnetic force is dependent on the movement of charged particles in a
electrostatic field. voltage Intensifier circuit (190) of figure (3-23), now, allows voltage to
dissociates water molecule (85) by overcoming electrostatic bonding force (qq') between unlike
atoms (76n7) while restricting amp flow, as illustrated in (160) of Figure (3-26).


@outlaw
also interesting
gonna ponder on it too
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 17:19:41 pm
Great outlaw that you refine what I was trying to say , once we know why snow is white we will know how this works .
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 17:48:34 pm
that are rubber banding.
the fields or the atom particles?

can you pls give your view of the rubberbanding effect / snapping action?
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 18:36:42 pm
the rubber banding of like forces at the same time  create 2 different forces on opposite charged particles(electrons and protons) of the  atom at the same time. menaing 2 forces on the electron of pushing and pulling.. and it is vice versa force on the protons making them want to go in the exact opposite direction.  you are over powering the natural covalent forces at 11 volts..  stephen meyers says that all chemical reactions occur between 1-10 volts..  so once you learn how to get water to polarizes. which means it lines up positve to negative across the cell it will start to take on voltage.. to take on voltage is nothing more then haveing the force to remove(pluck electrons) from the water.. then it takes on a positive voltage  charge.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 18:57:19 pm
magnetic induction.. when you have a bifilar wound coil and are stripping electrons out of the positve choke and are sending them into a wire right next to it.. there is a balance there.. of equal opposite forces so they are attracted to each other on the core.. those charges being a balanced opposite would rather sit next to each other in the choke rather then to have to jump across the water.. but since the plates in the water are connected they produce the skin effect on the plates..  ..
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 19:57:46 pm
thanks
"rubber banding effect" is now clear, equal  and opposite fields zero referenced, pulsing, creating a stress zone in space state.
but.. isn't that the same as the "electrical polarization process"?

plucking electrons from water implies current.

must pause, before I start asking stupid questions
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 22, 2009, 20:24:26 pm
its only plucking during snaping action i beleive  then when it hits 0. or should we call it converging point Q. the electrons that were plucked go back to the oxy.. once there back on the oxy they loose the dipole quality they had when they were water and dont react the same as they are expelling as a gas. so what im trying to say is they dont go in the circuit.. the only time they go into the system is with the electron exctraction.  which are being sucked in with the presence of only a positve potential ring.. no negative.. the laser energy and electrical stress has the electrons ready for removal from the system. stan in return burned them off as they went in to the choke with his lights.. turning them into photon energy giving him more atomic positive excitment of the protons.???
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 23, 2009, 13:41:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/user/TrodanEnterprises
crappy vids, but he thinks standing waves occur.

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This [dielectric] breakdown is usually caused by stationary voltage spikes or "nodes" which are caused by standing waves. Standing waves are stationary and occur when part of the energy traveling down the line is reflected by an impedance mismatch with the load [Xl > Xc]. The voltage potential of the standing waves at the points of greatest magnitude can become large enough to break down the insulation between transmission line conductors.
The dielectric in waveguides is air, which has a much lower dielectric loss than conventional insulating materials. However, waveguides are also subject to dielectric breakdown caused by standing waves. Standing waves in waveguides cause arcing [which doesnt happen in the wfc, we have chokes] which decreases the efficiency of energy transfer and can severely damage the waveguide. Also since the electromagnetic fields are completely contained within the waveguide, radiation losses are kept very low.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 23, 2009, 16:06:18 pm
once again thank you...very interesting.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 23, 2009, 18:48:59 pm
a standing wave in such a small waveguide is problematic, since the wavelength of a 10kHz signal is 300m
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 23, 2009, 19:26:32 pm
its not a signal doing the work its potential.. when its being pulsed it doesnt hit 0 it hits Q  so your getting like a ripple of pure dc power Q being the converging point of 2 phases the low point as well. that ripple from Q to peak is happening on a fluxuating frequency (the rotational speed of the rotor)  you could have 20 ripples in a second or you can have 350 ripples in a second.  then you have the variable 0-10 khz controlling  how many times that ripple pulse hits, and how long they are on.. also the variable voltage input to rotor effects amplification.  the 0-10khz should be a digital signal with analog? to create the tidal wave?
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 24, 2009, 14:20:26 pm
300m should have been 30000m: wavelength = c / f -> 3E8/1E4 = 3E4 meter, so to get a single complete ripple on the waveguide, it has to be 3E4 m = 30km.
this also applies to voltage, yes?

so, if you want to create a voltage ripple traveling on the waveguide (like the ripples created on a water surface), forming waves exactly like 8-1  and 8-2,  simultaneously seen by the water; wavelength of the voltage pulses must be way smaller, for example, a 10 cm long waveguide which contains 10 pulses of 1 cm each, frequency is c (m/s) / wavelength (m) = 3e10 Hz = 30 GHz .
The ripple sequence as seen on 8-1 and 8-2 won't occur, because of the low frequency.

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(the number of Voltage Pulse Fields Vpf occurring per unit of space-time)

your input is much appreciated.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 24, 2009, 14:52:51 pm
(the number of Voltage Pulse Fields Vpf occurring per unit of space-time)
i would say thats the best and simplest way of putting it..

remember are pulse field isnt based off regular pulse field operations.. we are using a sync pulse.. sending two signals of equal difference giving them a equal ratio of attraction for each other. we have a pulse going through both electrodes..  the positve is getting put in a state of vacuum.. while the negative is being bombarded with electrons.. the  electron clustering on negative electrode causes the stainless material  to produce a specific scalar wave.. as you see in dankies image. then the vacuum of the positive choke creates the exact opposite vortex. i see it i smell it and i can taste it loll. think of a hurricane  it has a counter clock wise rotation??  i bet theres another force working in balance rotating the opposite direction.. all a storm is, is a transfer of differentials right.. highs to low (preasure) hot and cold..  so what force could rotate opposite of a storm?? temp, magnetic fields? water is a dipole and will react to electromagnetic fields.

outlawstc

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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 24, 2009, 15:45:09 pm
(the number of Voltage Pulse Fields Vpf occurring per unit of space-time)
i would say thats the best and simplest way of putting it..

remember are pulse field isnt based off regular pulse field operations.. we are using a sync pulse.. sending two signals of equal difference giving them a equal ratio of attraction for each other. we have a pulse going through both electrodes.. 

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the positve is getting put in a state of vacuum..
yes, lacking free electrons, pulled into the positive choke

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while the negative is being bombarded with electrons..
pulled by the + electric field electrode and repelled by the voltage from second choke.

aka displacement current

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the  electron clustering on negative electrode causes the stainless material  to produce a specific scalar wave.. as you see in dankies image.
pulsing  E field without M field, traveling transversally / radially inward?

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then the vacuum of the positive choke creates the exact opposite vortex.
vortex? can't see this ???
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i see it i smell it and i can taste it loll. think of a hurricane  it has a counter clock wise rotation??  i bet theres another force working in balance rotating the opposite direction.. all a storm is, is a transfer of differentials right.. highs to low (preasure) hot and cold..  so what force could rotate opposite of a storm?? temp, magnetic fields? water is a dipole and will react to electromagnetic fields.
possible :)

Do you think the voltage pulse burst will appear on the waveguide as seen in 8-2B?
this is what I'm trying to find out, in my view the VLF won't allow this, but I could be wrong.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 24, 2009, 15:57:18 pm
interesting book:
http://www.amazon.com/Innovation-Maxwells-Electromagnetic-Theory-Displacement/dp/0521533295

http://www.americanscientist.org/bookshelf/pub/the-full-maxwell

science seems to catch up:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/n4r0m024w7818032/
http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9803002
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 24, 2009, 16:32:18 pm
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the positve is getting put in a state of vacuum..
yes, lacking free electrons, pulled into the positive choke

lacking neutral balance of electrons from being pulled out of the positive choke


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while the negative is being bombarded with electrons..
pulled by the + electric field electrode and repelled by the voltage from second choke.

aka displacement current

 the electrons are not being just pulled the emf is forceing them as well.. the pull isnt a pull its more or less a mutual balance of difference entering the chokes at the same time. almost a since of no resistant pressure for building up the different charges..

the material in the stainless will align from what stan was saying right?... looking from the top side of the hurricane it appears to be counter clock wire rotation.. but a perspectrive from under the stom is a clockwise rotation.  we are stumbling on some amazing discoveries.

imagine if you were to get the positive plate material to mimic the top of the storms rotation in scalar wave..  and then you had the negative mimic the bottom of the storm rotation... they would be 180 out from each other with there scalar waves. but to be 180 out is to make them rotate in same dirrection.  if you had 2 clockwise  they work against eachother in scalar waves?  why does water swirl opposite in toliets below the equator.. ??? they are on the opposite perspective of the storm then us??? these are the question i want to know!! ahhhhhhhhh'!!!! in order from somthin to have the same rotation when flipped 180 it must rotate the exact opposite.


outlawstc
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 25, 2009, 14:43:49 pm
http://www.sayedsaad.com/fundmental/11_Capacitance.htm

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Figure (3). - Distortion of electron orbital paths due to electrostatic force.
sounds familiar?

http://science.howstuffworks.com/lightning2.htm
nature ionizes the air for free before it can conduct and arc over, creating a lightning strike.. not sure if this is correct though
meyer does the same  with the air  processor, without the arc-over.
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 25, 2009, 14:55:32 pm
I wonder if SM wasnt playing with both kind of waves , Let John test with the same coventional method for now and keep this option open .

What if we just render the *atmosphere of our cell stuffy* like bearden says , change the ambient gravity , make things stuffy .

Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 25, 2009, 17:59:46 pm
stanley meyer used normal wave inputs....but i have a feeling with the bifilar action and the stainless steel wire that it creates scalar waves that are given off......but ultimately the scalar waves are not used in the wfc cell.....they are just a biproduct of the vic coil as the coil spins the potential difference in opposite directions.....this would be an interesting thing to measure....we could surround it with a farrahday's cage and see if we can pick up an readings.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on March 25, 2009, 18:47:06 pm
let me give scalar wave example from what im seeing.. compare it to a hurricane.. a hurricane is created by multiple differences.. tempature hot/cold, air pressure difference make winds flowing from high pressure to low pressure, and possibly electromagnetic waves ... when ever you get a swirl it is being caused by differential exchange.. 2 years ago when i was cheifing out a bong i noticed that as the air comes up the tube it swirls.. from that day i said that the swirl has to do with meaning and understanding.. little did i know that it would releate 2 years later lol. i think that swirl is being created from the exchange of vacuum potential which you are creating when you inhale and since theres a leak source of air coming from the bowl into the bong.. there is current that is being made visible by the smoke, and it swirls up the neck of the bong.. there are no cross winds in this bong to cause rotation..  just a vacuum force of the lungs which is traveling from your mouth into the bong and the up draft cause by the bowls intake.. those are the 2 forces causing the scalar smoke lol. for every action there a equal and opposite reaction..  means for every hole that goes right a electron goes left....

understand typical electric doesnt put things in unipolar states it oscillates electrons.  stan learned how to move electrons and learn that wire can poses pure positve potential when you strip alot of the electrons out.. then he learend how to displace them charges next to each other.. in a wire thats on the same core.. so for ever action theres a equal and opposite right.. so for one hole one way there 1 electron the other way.. now let that pump run.. soon you get a displacement by the 1000's thats when your volts are builing up..  but when they are being forced by the emf when there entering the choke they are equaly attracted to each other magneticaly.. the negative chokes aboundance in electrons is the exact amount the positve choke needs.. so they will sit in the wire next to each other in the core.. for the electron to want to cross the water  there needs to be an imbalance.. the voltage in the stainless wire is present mainly from the inductance charge of the secondarys.. 49a-49n throws the positve plate off balance? just a little so it is causing a potential shift to occur which is nothing more then dwell time and the signal?


outlawstc
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 26, 2009, 07:23:04 am
i got a kick out of that, especially when you said scalar smoke, hahaha
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 26, 2009, 15:08:17 pm
lol, like it

magnetic vortex:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/34317/Spintronics-The-Secret-World-of-Magnets-2006-by-Howard-Johnson
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 26, 2009, 15:27:36 pm
yea i thought it was pretty funny how i can realate somthing that would seem of no learning value in life to the usual observer and i was able to create a good lesson out of it lol. i tell you one thing.. weed is good! it opens the mind.. i used to be one of the most close minded people you would have ever met about 4 years ago.. what i dont get is why beer is legal and weed is illeagal.. beer in way more toxic to your body and it alters your mental state into a way more chaotic state then normal and  is a deppresant.. then you have weed.. somthing that opens the mind.. can releive stress and the most you can do on a overdose is take a good nap..?? beer will get you put behind bars because when someones drunk reality is irelevrent when it comes to consequences..


i want people to think on this.. this has to do with displacement of health and relating it to what we are learning..   ok you have a person that constantly eats fatty foods  mc donalds and what nots which are acid (negative) .. this person is 6 foot and 300 pounds.. to be a healthy 6 foot tall person. your most likely eating alkaline healthy foods and weigh around 200 pounds...would you believe that fat is like a build up of negative electrons on the body being stored? would you beleive that when your fat you have more force pushing down then lifting up??? nature has many answer waiting to be related to how everthing releates.. everything exsist do to forces.. and all forces have a opposite.. so theres allways a storm of the differences trying to meet and balance in life which is what paints the canvas.. a little deeper to what is happening in the body when eating fatty foods with bad fats (fatty acids).. when you consume to much of these bad foods your stomach is still absorbing it even if you dont need it.. lifes about balance and you just through your blood in your body into a rising acidic state.. if your ph goes over 7.6 or 7.8 you die.. so what your body does is it takes these over acumulated acids (negative charged) and store them as fat cells.. your actully capacitating without being able to discharge?  to repel off earth and be pulled toward space you must be more on the alkiline level.. but 7 is fine i think the blood trys to stay around 7.3.. it makes you feel awake and like your walking on clouds. its like alkiline opens your bodys channel to flow with earths and the suns powers?  i think the only reason people age faster is from haveing the down force pulling on them in a unequal difference from the up force. your skin starts to sag down like that force is making you melt back to earth lol. they say disease doesnt exist in a alkaline body... ok earth is positve charged if were repeling off it with positve force?     space must be negative charges since all the ozone exist by space( its attracting positves charged particles)  when somthin starts to build positve potential (holes)by removing electrons out of it, it will start to have attraction for space and repel from earth. so when somthin has light in it.. it can reflect!!!! positve= light= holes      and negative= electron  a photon is a elementry particle.. key word particle... so the more alkiline you are the more room you have for light!!!  it flow through us. theres alot said in this so please try to understand.
some of it could be off but most of its not.
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 26, 2009, 18:31:01 pm
i do about 5 ph test throughout my day.....i am almost always in 7.3-7.5.....if you go up to 7.6 your fine...yes there is alkalosis just as there is acidosis.....nutrition is my specialty...and if anyone wants to be healthier i would recommend  A COLON CLEANSE!!!!....most important thing in life to do......i have used dr natura's colonix.....and holy shit it is no joke of what comes out of you.....shit that has been stuck in there since you weren like 10 years old.......after that follow up with a liver cleanse.....but as for feeling like your walking on a cloud......i think a better way to put it is you have a true mental clarity.....but this isn't just from having alkaline blood......not at all.....you truly need to detox all heavy metals and built up scum.....you do feel elevated.

if we started a nutrtion section......i don't even know..........i am starting up a huge garden soon with compost piles and plant and fungi cultivations......the times are coming.......

so i find your reply very interesting.
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 27, 2009, 13:50:18 pm
tesla car theft protection system
http://www.flickr.com/photos/avi_abrams/1118238522/sizes/o/

http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/07/creepy-high-voltage-installations.html
from the days of soviet research
I didn't believe bearden on this, but this  makes ye think.
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 29, 2009, 13:03:38 pm
ouch
http://www.magnetnerd.com/Neodymium%20Magnets/Dirks%20Accident.htm
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 29, 2009, 20:50:13 pm
analogy of the harrp.  imagine that whole square grid of antennas are like hairs..  you know how your hair stands up cause of static.. that forms of capacitance of electrons happening.  its a skin effect... now if you know how to  create vacuum and pressure, which is nothing more then displace electrons in a atomic structure. you know how to fluxuate atomic vacuum state and pressure and you can build potential... electrons are like air..   and we know air is a volume of lighter  expanded elements.  remember that the air is 1 subject.. but it can be put in difference.. if it didnt then we wouldnt be here because there would be no action. so the area of harrp allow for a big area of electrons to build.. in the skin effect until the do a reversed lightning strike.. using the ionispphere as the attraction for the pull the mass electrons up into the atmosphere.. that is causing strong shifts of potentials in the atmosphere. and can create turbulance. off balance turbulance can create more heat because they are amps..  thats how they alter the weather with it.. and they can send different resonance.. like different tidal waves and effect things in different manners.. they say it can sweep the brain and cause stress.. depression and so on.. it can throw you into unatural bipolar moments.  like we are inductor chokes and there flipping our pole orientation..

as for the chem trails that they relate the harrp to. i think its just water.. they are flying in the neutral point of difference when it comes to electron and light transfers trading off. right at the area of  fluent trading off at the switching point of 2 different resistive characteristics volumes.  it will make water want to go into higher state.. so its expanding into vapor.. it is white because when oxy goes into a expanded state it reflects all light.. so they are white. just like clouds.. what you should worry about is that commercial flights running on carbon fuels. its what really messes up the balance.. you shouldnt introduce large amounts of carbon by ozone.. it sucks into in like a sponge then you have dark neutral matter holding more heat and distorting the light coming to earth.. it heats up causing global warming issues.  because its distorting light to earth then the light that gets in it distorts from getting out. creating heat where there shouldnt be and that throws atospheric pressures off. everything works in vice versa.. the vice versa' s  have vice versa's..
in a since newtons law for every action can cause an equal and opposite reaction it should have one more line at the end for variability so it should go like this... for every action there is a equal and opposite reaction but in some cases duality vice versa can occur. thats what makes life so unpredictable.


cheers
outlawstc
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 31, 2009, 12:21:34 pm
Could it be that meyer's system is based on exciting the dirac sea with sharp voltage gradients like Bearden and Dirac said:
as a result neutrino's get separated -> electrons appear out of no where and recombine with the water -> the water gets separated.

I doubt it, but maybe it is already proven that electrons can be  created this way.

electrons = matter
pulsing dirac energy sea = 'creation' of matter.

Meyer was saying this all along.
Maybe he really did know the secrets of nature.
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 31, 2009, 16:30:49 pm
Could it be that meyer's system is based on exciting the dirac sea with sharp voltage gradients like Bearden and Dirac said:
as a result neutrino's get separated -> electrons appear out of no where and recombine with the water -> the water gets separated.

I doubt it, but maybe it is already proven that electrons can be  created this way.

electrons = matter
pulsing dirac energy sea = 'creation' of matter.

Meyer was saying this all along.
Maybe he really did know the secrets of nature.

Alan,
Can you give us a link on that subject?

br
Steve
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 31, 2009, 19:53:45 pm
i think light and electrons are the same thing.. they are just spinning in opposite directions..  when passing each other.
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 31, 2009, 21:21:59 pm
that doesn't make sense?

light is photons, has no mass, electrons have mass
electrons can absorb and spit out photons
electrons can spin in both directions, paired or unpaired
photons are sometimes a wave and sometimes a particle

they are definitely related, but surely distinct
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 31, 2009, 22:27:11 pm
Could it be that meyer's system is based on exciting the dirac sea with sharp voltage gradients like Bearden and Dirac said:
as a result neutrino's get separated -> electrons appear out of no where and recombine with the water -> the water gets separated.

I doubt it, but maybe it is already proven that electrons can be  created this way.

electrons = matter
pulsing dirac energy sea = 'creation' of matter.

Meyer was saying this all along.
Maybe he really did know the secrets of nature.

Alan,
Can you give us a link on that subject?

br
Steve
sure, this link talks about it: (precursor engineering from Bearden)
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Site:LRP:Precursor_Engineering_And_The_Falsification_of_Mo dern_Physics

"I think if one had to point to a single place where science went profoundly and permanently off the track, it would be 1934 and the emasculation of Dirac’s equation." [D. L. Hotson, "Dirac’s Equation and the Sea of Negative Energy," Part I, New Energy, Issue 43, 2002, pp. 1-20. Quote is from p. 1.] Available at http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart1.pdf
See also D. L. Hotson, "Dirac’s Equation and the Sea of Negative Energy", Part II, New Energy, Issue 44, 2002, pp. 1-24. Available at
http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart2.pdf .

http://arxiv.org/ftp/quant-ph/papers/0703/0703257.pdf
http://arxiv.org/ftp/quant-ph/papers/0611/0611091.pdf

you can also google for dirac-maxwell field


awesome website:
http://www.hyiq.org/
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 05, 2009, 13:31:08 pm
Beyond the Visible Universe by Stoyan Sarg
http://books.google.nl/books?id=mFXlq05n_Q0C

some of dr stiffler's papers, not free anymore, but saved it to pdf:
http://rapidshare.com/files/217321883/e.zip.htm

Springer - Hydrogen Bonding - New Insights - 2006.pdf
http://rapidshare.com/files/217419538/Springer_-_Hydrogen_Bonding_-_New_Insights_-_2006.pdf.html

Doing physics with quaternions (he converted physics to quaternions)
http://world.std.com/~sweetser/quaternions/qindex/qindex.html
free book
http://www.theworld.com/~sweetser/quaternions/ps/book.pdf
too bad the maxwell equations are symmetrized like bearden objected to.

Excitation of dielectric barrier discharges by unipolar submicrosecond square pulses
http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0022-3727/34/11/312
(hmm, article not for free  ::) )
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Post by: Login to see usernames on April 09, 2009, 16:57:57 pm
"The Muon-process":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muon-catalyzed_fusion

To create this effect, a stream of negative muons, most often created by decaying pions, is sent to a block that may be made up of all three hydrogen isotopes (protium, deuterium, and/or tritium), where the block is usually frozen, and the block may be at temperatures of about 3 Kelvin (?270 degrees Celsius) or so. As said previously, the muon may bump the electron from one of the hydrogen isotopes. The muon, 207 times more massive than the electron, effectively shields and reduces the electromagnetic resistance between two nuclei and draws them much closer into a covalent bond than an electron can. Because the nuclei are so close, the strong nuclear force is able to kick in and bind both nuclei together. They fuse, release the catalytic muon (most of the time), and part of the original mass of both nuclei is released as energetic particles, as with any other type of nuclear fusion (see nuclear fusion to understand how this energy is released). The release of the catalytic muon is critical to continue the reactions. The majority of the muons continue to bond with other hydrogen isotopes and continue fusing nuclei together. However, there is a major drawback with muon-catalyzed fusion: not all of the muons are recycled, and too many bond with other debris emitted following the fusion of the nuclei (such as alpha particles and helions), removing the muons from the catalytic process. This gradually and ultimately chokes off the reactions, as there are fewer and fewer muons with which the nuclei may bond. The highest success rate achieved in the lab has been on the order of about 100 reactions or so per muon.
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 09, 2009, 17:18:57 pm
Stupid muon processes...


Fuck that modafukkin "scientific community" ...
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 26, 2009, 13:27:50 pm
Outlawstc will like this one:
Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe.
http://www.ctmu.org/
Interesting theories by Christopher Michael Langan.
He's got an IQ of 200+, so it could be close to the truth.
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 06, 2009, 11:29:25 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_electricity

if you have access to a library, look up the references:
1) Kouropoulos, C. P., Classically Bound Electrons; EVs, Chemistry & Cold Electricity, 2005
3) Loeb, Leonard B. and Meek, John M., The Mechanism of the Electric Spark Stanford, CA, Stanford University Press, 1941
4) Shoulders, Ken and Shoulders, Steve, Charge Clusters in Action Bodega, CA, 1999
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 06, 2009, 13:47:32 pm
view with djview:
windows  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=32953&package_id=78509
mac http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=32953&package_id=251920
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 06, 2009, 17:21:21 pm
compare:
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now,
set ups, causes, and applies ever increasing (rubberbanding effect) Pulsating Opposite Electrical
Stress (RU-RU' - ST-ST') across Water Gap (Cp) ... encouraging "Particle Oscillation" as a.
"Energy Generator" by way of pulsating "Electrical Stress" as the combustible gas atom particles of
the water molecule undergo "Particle Deflection" farthest from the point of "State of Equilibrium"
and returning back to "Stable State of Equilibrium" during-pulse off-time (T2) for repeated
"Snapping Action" (Rubberbanding effect) in accordance with bi-polar Voltage Rippling Effect
(1010) of Figure (10-5), as so illustrated in (280) of Figure (3-35).
and
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Exposing the hydrogen atoms to applied Static Voltage Stimulation (770) of Figure (8-1) causes
the Static Electrical Charging Effect (585) to set up "Voltage Tickling of State Space" which takes the
hydrogen atom (s) from "Quiescent State"(Qs) to "Active State"(As) and then back again to "Quiescent
State (Qs) once applied unipolar pulse-wave (583/602) goes through Voltage Pulsing Cycle (Vpwf) from
"Ground State"(Gs) to Voltage Peak potential (Vpp) (780) of Figure (8-2A) and then returns to "Ground
State" (Gs) for continued repetitive Voltage-Pulsing (583/602a xxx 583/602n) ... forming Pulse Wave
Frequency (Pwf), as so illustrated in (780) of Figure (8-2) as to (770) of Figure (8-1). 
and, most important
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A Technique Called "Easer" 
Energy Priming Stage (500) of Figure (5-1) is, now, activated and performed when the hydrogen atom
(s) is exposed to applied Voltage-Sync Gate Pulse (V gp) by which Electrical Voltage Attraction Forces
(Electrical Stress) (RU-RU' - ST-ST') causes "Particle Oscillation" of the hydrogen atom (s) to emit
radiant energy (Ers) (919), as so illustrated in (980) of Figure (10-2) as to (500) of Figure (5-1). The
applied unipolar Positive Voltage Pulse (B+) (ST -ST') electrically attracts the negative charged atom
electron; while, simultaneously, applied unipolar Negative Voltage Pulse (B-) (RU-RU') electrically
attracts the positive charged Proton\,(3) that forms the nucleus of the hydrogen atom ... causing the
hydrogen atom to elongate under Atomic Electrical Stress (Aes)(?AA'-?ZZ') ... whereby,
atomicelectrica1 attraction force (4) that exists between the deflected orbital negative charged electron-
(1) and the pivotal positive charged Proton (3) is attenuated (?4a xxx ?4n-?5axxx. ?5n) ... which, in
turns, attenuates the spin-velocity of the "Gyroscopic Regulator" of the hydrogen nucleus to cause
Energy Aperture (7) to emit/transmit more or greater amount of Universal Energy (9) into, through, and
beyond the energy spectrum of the hydrogen atom for "Energy Propagation" (atoms being an "Energy
Generator" in our physical universe) by way of "Particle Oscillation" of the hydrogen atom (or any other
atom), as so illustrated in (570) of Figure (5-10) as to (550) of Figure (5-8).

to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescent_lamp

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"principles of operation"
The fundamental means for conversion of electrical energy into radiant energy in a fluorescent lamp relies on inelastic scattering of electrons. An incident electron collides with an atom in the gas. If the free electron has enough kinetic energy, it transfers energy to the atom's outer electron, causing that electron to temporarily jump up to a higher energy level. The collision is 'inelastic' because a loss of energy occurs.

This higher energy state is unstable, and the atom will emit an ultraviolet photon as the atom's electron reverts to a lower, more stable, energy level. Most of the photons that are released from the mercury atoms have wavelengths in the ultraviolet (UV) region of the spectrum predominantly at wavelengths of 253.7 nm and 185 nm.

"A technique called Easer", which is nothing more than a hydrogen lamp - also the demonstrations with these tubes on scalar potentials, function exactly the same as a regular gas lamp, except the for the mechanics of transfering the atom into a higher energy state (bold above):
electron collision vs voltage field mechanics.
 ;D

where does the energy come from?
I believe the attached pdf explains it:
forcing an atom to a high energy state without adding the needed energy
(sucking in energy from the vacuum because of the entropy / energy potential difference, like meyer said, universal energy being of higher potential) .

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Energy Aperture (7) of Figure (5-8) exists in all atomic structures (individual atoms) and functions as a
one-way energy valve when the Incoming Energy Vortex transfers a given or discrete amount of
"Universal Energy" (having higher energy potential) into the Energy Spectrum of the Atom to
compensate for and maintain "Atomic Energy Equilibrium"

Now vortex makes sense, it is just natures way of energy transfer.
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 06, 2009, 18:10:09 pm
Alan,
I hardly ever comment because like a few others here I know very little about this science but this is good stuff.  Even though it’s over my head it makes me want to learn more.
John
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 06, 2009, 20:08:57 pm
No No No , all this is wrong ...

Stan says voltage does work , thats the voltage across the plates that "breaks the dielectric bond" .

All this vortex stuff is nonsense , KISS ... The Neutrino stuff is also not happening , lets not get into this , KISS ...

*this is a parody*
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 06, 2009, 20:55:01 pm
or in other words: one can think about the theory after he has a successful replication.

everything else is a waste of time imo ..
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 06, 2009, 22:30:49 pm
Quote
Outlawstc will like this one:
Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe.
http://www.ctmu.org/
Interesting theories by Christopher Michael Langan.
He's got an IQ of 200+, so it could be close to the truth.


just read the abstract.. it reminds me of the paper i wrote called duality vice versa last month..   

oh and i still think the primary is wound wrong on the vics..longitudinaly wrapped means linearly wrappped north to south or vice versa... i have been working everyday 10 hour days for like the past month with only like 2 days off.. im trying to keep up but im a little behind right now ... i should have some down time soon to catch up.. i think im gonna sit and take the time to read this new kind of reality theory.. seems to me like it might just be the next renaissance definition= the activity, spirit, or time of the great revival of art, literature, and learning in Europe beginning in the 14th century and extending to the 17th century, marking the transition from the medieval to the modern world...  . thanks for sharing it alan..  i think stan seen it this way it really is simple but its complex but can all be broke down to simple so keep it simple stupid lol. " 


distortions and clarity can create gain working in opposition to each other. The gain is wisdom and the truth. One step forward towards the question will in return, bring you one step closer to the truth. Hey it may be a bumpy road but its builds character . What shows the truth? Reflection. They make us walk in circles now days, surrounded by nothing but distortion. Some of us have intuition gods people... some have ignorance the devils infantry. There is so much truth in this .if you don’t understand it read it again and again. Since each time you read it, it shall bring you one step closer to clarity and one step away from distortion, same relative time it will bring you one step closer to intuitive instincts and one step away from ignorance , hey its duality vice versa!! Life has too many variables and complexities to predict and prepare ahead of the time in most cases... so the only thing you can do is BE prepare for the ride 24/7 so be relativistic.
Title: Re: Info
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 06, 2009, 22:47:33 pm
Quote
Outlawstc will like this one:
Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe.
http://www.ctmu.org/
Interesting theories by Christopher Michael Langan.
He's got an IQ of 200+, so it could be close to the truth.


just read the abstract.. it reminds me of the paper i wrote called duality vice versa last month..   

oh and i still think the primary is wound wrong on the vics..longitudinaly wrapped means linearly wrappped north to south or vice versa... i have been working everyday 10 hour days for like the past month with only like 2 days off.. im trying to keep up but im a little behind right now ... i should have some down time soon to catch up.. i think im gonna sit and take the time to read this new kind of reality theory.. seems to me like it might just be the next renaissance definition= the activity, spirit, or time of the great revival of art, literature, and learning in Europe beginning in the 14th century and extending to the 17th century, marking the transition from the medieval to the modern world...  . thanks for sharing it alan..  i think stan seen it this way it really is simple but its complex but can all be broke down to simple so keep it simple stupid lol. " 


distortions and clarity can create gain working in opposition to each other. The gain is wisdom and the truth. One step forward towards the question will in return, bring you one step closer to the truth. Hey it may be a bumpy road but its builds character . What shows the truth? Reflection. They make us walk in circles now days, surrounded by nothing but distortion. Some of us have intuition gods people... some have ignorance the devils infantry. There is so much truth in this .if you don’t understand it read it again and again. Since each time you read it, it shall bring you one step closer to clarity and one step away from distortion, same relative time it will bring you one step closer to intuitive instincts and one step away from ignorance , hey its duality vice versa!! Life has too many variables and complexities to predict and prepare ahead of the time in most cases... so the only thing you can do is BE prepare for the ride 24/7 so be relativistic.

Outlaw , I asked John to not do my primary as I will be trying a few things as well , I dont expect things should be special tho ...



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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 07, 2009, 00:21:41 am
study earths electromagnetic field.. it has energys running 90 degrees out of phase from each other..   a compass read energy travelling north and south while we have deflection energy aka winds that run east to west... the vic core is mother earth.. the primary mocks the north to south electromagnetic current. being longitudinal just like earth, while the chokes and secondary being wound 90 degrees out of phase are taking on pressure and vacuum  aka + and - volts..   

heres a cool video

http://delivery.gettyimages.com/xd/1255-2.mov?c=NewsMaker&d=9B6C5E9A385F67CCE1ECC75966201D77&k=2&v=1
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 07, 2009, 01:44:01 am
cant see the video
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 07, 2009, 22:41:18 pm
couldnt find it again  ???.. but i just found this and i havent read it yet but i know its full of good stuff..

http://www.feandft.com/
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 07, 2009, 22:59:49 pm
feature=PlayList&p=C8723FD651ECD581&index=0

feature=PlayList&p=C8723FD651ECD581&index=19


THIS VIDEO HERE IS A MUST SEE.. pay attention when he starts to explain the frequencys.. there are 3

feature=PlayList&p=C8723FD651ECD581&index=20
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 21, 2009, 15:13:59 pm
Didn't realize I had these on my hd, from march 5th 2008  

Made by Radiant_1. (now you can put em back on your YT)
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 21, 2009, 15:18:01 pm
some more
can't remember I saved em
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 21, 2009, 15:20:28 pm
Chargin water.
aetheric fire from charged water..
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 21, 2009, 20:57:49 pm
Radiant, got any new insights or ideas regarding your video's?

it is strange what the carbon corrosion is doing, more power is released - because of P = I^2*R -> more resistance, more heat?
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 21, 2009, 21:22:59 pm
Carbon does burn, it is used in power plants instead of coal sometimes. They just grind it into a fine powder and inject it into the boilers.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 21, 2009, 22:26:43 pm
Those are some pretty amazing videos .

Thx you Alan
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 22, 2009, 12:15:25 pm
I have made a version of a homemade welder (supposedly what Dan Dingel was welding with)
It is based off this german drawing from Dingel's stuff. It is almost exactly like my arc experiment...it uses about 40 watts and melts steel.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/Jdub6d9/danieldingel1.jpg)

I find that resistance is needed to get the effect...it is the same mechanism...I have to "strike an arc" by direct contact then pull away...it's much easier to do at 48v. Once I strike it a BEMF HV spike breaks down the air allowing the next forward EMF conduct through the ionized air. Over and over...it's a spark oscillator, meaning it is running at many frequencies (white noise spark gaps supply many frequencies)

I will be testing this circuit much more tomorrow....should get a video too...but it looks like a promising system.


As for my early videos...they should only be appreciated for the certain effects...as for my explanations back then...they were a lil lacking (I understand it much better now)

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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 22, 2009, 18:37:59 pm
I have made a version of a homemade welder (supposedly what Dan Dingel was welding with)
It is based off this german drawing from Dingel's stuff. It is almost exactly like my arc experiment...it uses about 40 watts and melts steel.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/Jdub6d9/danieldingel1.jpg)

I find that resistance is needed to get the effect...it is the same mechanism...I have to "strike an arc" by direct contact then pull away...it's much easier to do at 48v. Once I strike it a BEMF HV spike breaks down the air allowing the next forward EMF conduct through the ionized air. Over and over...it's a spark oscillator, meaning it is running at many frequencies (white noise spark gaps supply many frequencies)

I will be testing this circuit much more tomorrow....should get a video too...but it looks like a promising system.


As for my early videos...they should only be appreciated for the certain effects...as for my explanations back then...they were a lil lacking (I understand it much better now)



Plz make that video so I can see how fast and clean this cuts through steel .

This cant cut anything non conductive right  ???
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 22, 2009, 21:13:13 pm
No problem thank radiant for making them :)
the shock group video shows water charged with what meyer called universal energy. i think.

I have made a version of a homemade welder (supposedly what Dan Dingel was welding with)

As for my early videos...they should only be appreciated for the certain effects...as for my explanations back then...they were a lil lacking (I understand it much better now)


It is striking how all these devices use a similar techniques - looking forward tto a demonstration.
Does your understanding include energy from the vacuum and excess energy?
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 22, 2009, 22:14:54 pm
Lol that was part of the joke . My compliment was adress to him

Radiant thx you
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 22, 2009, 23:11:00 pm
Hi Radiant,

So, if i understand you correctly, you expect much more gas production from a wfc if we are gonna use that spark gap in combi with a nice coil, because of the Bemf effects from it.

I attached a very bad drawing, but you get the point.
Have i understand you right?

The other question i had, is the power consumtion you had. So, on the vid with the motor. With and without spark. Did the sparking cost more power?


Br
Steve
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 23, 2009, 05:35:50 am
@Steve
Possibly...
I believe Dingel is doing something very similar to Meyer's early stuff. If not exactly the same (battery is a type of capacitor)
In one patent (his earliest US 4798661) it is pictured with a variable spaced spark gap. I think this is the need to for chokes to limit amp draw durring the arcing.
Check this out
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/Jdub6d9/Dingel-Plan01.jpg)

Now even though the wires are wound the same direction...coming from up and over makes the current flow create opposite fields...much like Meyer. I'm gonna try a very large bifilar coil from my bedini motor and see if I can get the "event" with lower amps.

I wasn't able to make a video today cuz I can't find the batteries or charger to my camera....hopefully I'll find em soon and get a video.

As for the arc...it takes up less amperage compared to a direct contact (Short condition). That holds true for the welder too...it draws 30-40 amps when I accidentally melt the contacts together (direct short), but, when the arc is operating I see 10-12 amps @38-40v



@All
Everything is inter-connected...the key connector is pulsed DC. The Back EMF spike is a very interesting thing indeed. Once you get it you will see the common technology in EVERYTHING OU!!
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 23, 2009, 10:50:30 am
Radiant,

Thanks for sharing the power consumtion details. They are very helpfull!
I will make a sertup here , with help of my 2 MOT's.

On the drawing you drawed a capacitor, but that is just to show its working. Not a real one, i ll guess.

Steve
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Post by: Login to see usernames on May 26, 2009, 12:40:53 pm
Negative resistance and OU using carbon arc sparkplug, easy setup:
http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/SparkGapExp/SparkGapExp.htm
http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/MultiSparkGap/MultiSparkGapExp.htm

Now what would happen if this small spark is  'amplified' similar to this video:

combining these two circuits can give surprising results using plasma spark over a carbon gap.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on June 18, 2009, 13:14:03 pm
keywords: asymmetrical back EMF
patent is clearly written by bearden
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Post by: Login to see usernames on June 19, 2009, 02:12:25 am
ok we know stan possibly used multiple frequencys going to the water fuel cell... would it be possible that he was using 2 freq.. one freq on the pos being analog  (being the duty cycle as well) and one on the negative in the fuel cell being digital and on the same duty cycle... he would name this a sequential mode since it was a set of timed preset variables of voltage application to the water molecule's..............  a amplitude analog pulse being produced on the positive plate while on the negative it is being gated on a 50 percent duty cycle (the analog) as well as a frequency in the 10 khz or more range,,,  your analog positive would probly flux from 60hz- 250hz witha  alternator and you could control the digital by gating its negative choke to earth ground on the correct freq and matching analog gate.   woud that not produce a amplifying signal of voltage to the water moecules in a unipolar sequence???  and this sequence would allow curennt flow but only at the min .001ma??? think of how the extreme change in magnitude/ amplitude itself can represent a  current of flow... the only difference in  amplitude and current is the direction of amplitude is 90 degrees out .  think on that one
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Post by: Login to see usernames on June 19, 2009, 10:51:16 am
written by Thane Heins on ou.com regarding his peripeteia and why the bemf is delayed.
the vic with xformer may be seen as a motor, the pulsing primary behaving similar to passing magnets.

ponder on this:

1)
THE BACK EMF INDUCED COUNTER-MAGNETIC FIELD PRODUCTION, TIMING AND STRENGTH ARE ALL A FUNCTION OF THE CURRENT FLOWING IN THE COIL.

2)
THE CURRENT FLOWING IN THE COIL IS A FUNCTION OF THE COIL IMPEDENCE
(AC RESISTANCE OR INDUCTIVE REACTANCE + DC RESISTANCE).

3)
THE COIL IMPEDENCE IS A FUNCTION OF THE FREQUENCY OR RATE OF MAGNET APPROACH.

4)
AS LONG AS THE MAGNET IS APPROACHING THE COIL ABOVE THE THRESHOLD FREQUENCY - COIL IMPEDENCE WILL NOT ALLOW THE COIL TO PRODUCE A MAGNETIC FIELD BECAUSE CURRENT CANNOT FLOW IN THE COIL.

5)
CURRENT CAN ONLY FLOW WHEN THE AC RESISTANCE DROPS TO ZERO.

6)
THE AC RESISTANCE DROPS TO ZERO WHEN THE MAGNET IS NEITHER APPROACHING NOR RECEDING FROM THE COIL OR TDC (TOP DEAD CENTRE).

7)
AT TDC (OR THEREABOUTS) CURRENT FLOWS AND PRODUCES THE DELAYED MAGNETIC FIELD WHEN THE COIL INDUCED AND CAPACITIVELY STORED VOLTAGE IS MAXIMUM.

THE COIL'S CORE HYSTERESIS CURVE MAY PLAY A ROLE IN DELAYING THE HV COIL'S INDUCED MAGNETIC FIELD UNTIL THE RIGHT MOMENT AS WELL. THE DELAYED MAGNETIC FIELD MAY ALSO PLAY A ROLE IN REDUCING THE CORE DRAG (COGGING TORQUE) ON THE ROTOR - SO THE MOTOR MAY DO LESS WORK BECAUSE THE DISCHARGING HV VOLTAGE TURNS THE GENERATOR COIL INTO A MOTOR COIL FOR A BRIEF INSTANT AND THE PRIME MOVER MAY SEE LESS CORE DRAG. - CREDIT TO HOPTOAD WHOEVER THE F HE IS?

8)
AT OR AROUND TDC A "PERFECT STORM" IS CREATED WHERE COIL IMPEDENCE IS MINIMUM (ONLY DC RESISTANCE OF THE COIL) - COIL CURRENT IS MAXIMUM - AND A DELAYED MAGNETIC FIELD IS PRODUCED WHICH PUSHES AWAY THE NOW RECEDING MAGNET AND ATTRACTS THE NEXT OPPOSITE POLE MAGNET ONE THE ROTOR.

9)
I DOUBT IT IS THE "ONLY" HOLY GRAIL BUT I AM CERTAINLY WILLING TO BET IT IS THE FIRST SCIENTIFICALLY VALID EXPLANATION - THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE ACCEPTED BECAUSE IF LOGIC RATHER THAN EMOTION IS ALLOWED TO DICTATE - THE ABOVE INFORMATION IS 100% VALID AND ALREADY FULLY KNOW AND UNDERSTOOD.
T
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Post by: Login to see usernames on August 22, 2009, 19:54:10 pm
Hi all,

long time no post, how you've all been doing?
I have been hospitalized at the psychiatry department for hearing voices in my head from negative entities, which started 4 weeks ago, am at home right now for a day.

How I got these voices? :D
have been recording too much EVPs for a couple of days.
Must  say t was a revelation, the universal energy thing is real, and there is definitely more between heaven and earth.
Also had some sleep paralysis episodes followed with laughter in my head when scared awake.

Very strange experience, still can feel 'em and hear 'em a little bit  :(  but cant understand them anymore.


 
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Post by: Login to see usernames on August 22, 2009, 21:49:41 pm
Thats heavy stuff, Alan.
Glad your back!

steve
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Post by: Login to see usernames on August 24, 2009, 13:20:11 pm
Thanks  ;)
have to stay at the hospital [paaz], just spent 3 days at home.

Still don't know what powers I am dealing with, voices are still here. They are 100% supernatural, I know that for a fact. Never believed in such a thing.