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Electronics => Electronics => Other => Topic started by: Dankie on November 13, 2008, 08:14:31 am

Title: Mechanical Resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 13, 2008, 08:14:31 am
This is a quote from somebody very qualified,  somebody very knowledeable in the field of RF electronics

Quote:

Well, to my understanding, there are two resonances happening an electrical and a 'mechanical'.
That's what I mean by dual resonance.


What could this mean ?
Title: Re: Mechanical Resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 13, 2008, 08:45:07 am
the plates pull closer to each other with higher magnetic pulses.......this creates a phsyical oscillation between the plates......there is a guy who explains this on youtube.
Title: Re: Mechanical Resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 13, 2008, 09:26:49 am
What does he mean with mechanical? oscillation strech of the molecule ,rubberband effect ?

can you give us the link for youtube kines
Title: Re: Mechanical Resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 13, 2008, 18:52:51 pm
Where is this video ?

There is not much info on mechanical resonance , but it seems like tesla made buildings shake using this "mechanical resonance" ...
Title: Re: Mechanical Resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 13, 2008, 19:44:24 pm
Hi friends
Somethings to bear in mind when we talk about Meyer circuitry  when combining both electronic and mechanical resonance:

When  a blocking diode is present in the circuitry,  what i see is a charging pump circuitry==> meaning each pulsation/oscillation an amplitude   voltage supplement takes place and for that it is called VIC.

Could be  I missed something in that case ....please you are welcome to correct.

Best regards

Jose 421
Title: Re: Mechanical Resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 13, 2008, 19:46:44 pm
i dont really understand what you mean jose ... can you re-explain ??
Title: Re: Mechanical Resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 13, 2008, 20:21:45 pm
Hi Dankie

Sure I will explain.

Suppose you are swinging your kid in play ground  garden ,the swing each time that go back to you you push it forward again and again, slowly slowly that task become to be easier and easier: THAT  IS THE RESONANCE.

But now having a blocking diode it is a conmpletely different pictures:

If comparing it to the playgroud garden it is like each time you push the swing away, the swing does not come back !!
the swing stops in its top  upper dead corner , and the only motion you can get is to push it to an higher top dead corner upper than its previous one

THAT IS A CHARGING PUMP.

Am pretty sure there is here  a super trick  requiring thinking 10000% out of the box and I do believe ther is!!
and am not sinical at all!!!
What I explained here is  unfortunately still..100% conventional physics/electronics

Best regards
Jose
Title: Re: Mechanical Resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 13, 2008, 20:40:28 pm
I get it now.... come to think of it that i explained this to Kinesis once  , choke 56 is not allowed to collapse , this also makes it unipolar current flow . Perhaps this cycle continues until somekind of breaking point is reached when choke 56 creates a stonger and stronger field .

Getting this to work with the diode seems like a key issue ... just this would be an accomplishment on its own .


but i wonder how this electrical signal acts on  the mechanical resonance tho ?
Title: Re: Mechanical Resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 13, 2008, 20:52:10 pm
That is the BIG QUESTION which truely have not YET  a clue to the answer to it!!

How comes an unipolar activity would create a mechanical /acoustic resonance.?

If thinking conventional:

Take a loud speaker:

as long you are applying AC you will ear something..
If you are applying an increasing DC activity (charging pump) you will ear something until the speaker reach it maximum top corner.

(then smoke from its coil  will start......)

Am practical enginner working over 20 years in  conbentional  electronic circuitrIies....
In that water wonder  I think it is more an handicap than a help.

Aat least can find confort knowing what is conventional or not

Best rgards
Jose
Title: Re: Mechanical Resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 14, 2008, 00:13:37 am
Who knows where to find a good video of "mechanical resonance" ?
Title: Re: Mechanical Resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 14, 2008, 05:25:52 am
dankie

here is a simple video

A simple mechanical resonance demonstrator
"In physics, resonance is the tendency of a system to oscillate at maximum amplitude at a certain frequency. This frequency is known as the system's resonance frequency. When damping is small, the resonance frequency is approximately equal to the natural frequency of the system, which is the frequency of free vibrations."

http://www.instructables.com/id/A-simple-mechanical-resonance-demonstrator/

Spike
Title: Re: Mechanical Resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 14, 2008, 05:47:57 am
dankie

Yes, Tesla did make a building shake,  He had a small battery powered box that could fit in his pocket that he placed on one of the steel girders of a building being built in New York. It was reported that the building started to hum, then stake, to the point the workers thought it was an earthquake. They called the police, At which time, Tesla removed the box from the girder. stuck it in his pocket and left.

I'd give my left one to have just some of his genius.  ;D

Spike