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Title: 304 stanless steel
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 28, 2021, 00:29:23 am
Is anyone here have 304 stainless steel they can perform a test for me? Could you please put 304 stainless steel separated by a 1/16 inch Gap from the 316l and tell me if it produces its own electricity and produces its own hydrogen it can also be you will have to polish the 304 stainless steel to get this to work I am not sure but I need this confirm quickly so anyone willing to help run this test I would be greatly appreciative also it would be beneficial to use a analog meter rather than a digital one we are looking for electronics extracktion here.

Please run this test and get back to me I'll plan on running the tests myself I just do not have quick access to 304 stainless so if you could do this it will be greatly appreciated.

I already have it confirmed that this works but I am unsure of the material I am using if it is not three or four then it is an additive to prevent dust molecules from getting into hard drives it could be polished 304 which is what I am thinking it is either way I will figure it out in time but if you have this handy lying around somewhere I will greatly appreciate your input and efforts
Title: Re: 304 stanless steel
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 28, 2021, 01:15:12 am
Just found out most store-bought mixing bowls are 304
Title: Re: 304 stanless steel
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 28, 2021, 01:37:11 am
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Title: Re: 304 stainless steel
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 29, 2021, 00:18:13 am
Stainless steel comes in a wide variety of types and  have a number designation that refers to the amount of other metals and carbon that are added to the iron when making the alloy.  Types 304 and 316 are common types found in the retail market. One thing to remember is that even within the same number classification,  there can be subgroups  such as 304L and 316L which manifest different corrosion characteristics due to differences in crystalline structure.
For example the 304L and 316L types are less susceptible to intragranular corrosion.
 
Also there are are differences in magnetic properties.  Type 304 is not magnetic but type  440 is

While Stanley Meyer makes much of the very low corrosion rate in the various lectures and his publications, (" They'll last for 10,000 years"),  the appearance of a brownish coloration 
of the water is likely due to the oxidation of the free iron atoms being leached from the  vertical exciter tubes in his vertical cluster array model.  Additionally
the construction of that cell included non stainless bolts that rusted.   The repeated or continued use would concentrate impurities or other
contaminants that remained in the water contained in the Perspex (r) tube as the water was being was being converted to HHO gas. This would be analogous to concentrating
sugar in the preparation of maple syrup.  (Although the method of  removal of water is different, boiling versus the dissociation  of water by a novel means)
Visual inspection of several photographs show the discolored water, the rusted bolts, and the difference in the appearance of the surfaces of anode and cathode  due to the different curvature of the inner and outer
 electrodes having a different surface charge density Also the cavitation effect and rising bubbles may be causing a scrubbing action

see attached photos:

1   Rusted bolts on Delrin spacer
2.  Differences in the appearance of the various surfaces of the anode  and cathodes tubes and above the small drilled
     holes
3.  Iron Oxides (rust) suspended in water after operation\
4,  Base of dry Demo Unit showing a clear area caused by smudging of dry particulate matter during handling

In my opinion it's  ok to has some corrosion of the small lattice iron granules on the surface of the stainless tubes as this is
providing a rougher surface similar in concept to sanding flat plates to create cross hatching but on a a much smaller scale
The roughened surface provides a nucleation point for bubble formation just as the conditioned surface is recommended
for gas production the vertical array  tube demonstration units
Title: Re: 304 stanless steel
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 29, 2021, 06:54:31 am
I am confused as to why his gap is so big? I'm also amazed at your knowledge of SS.
Title: Re: 304 stanless steel
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 29, 2021, 09:54:03 am
Wtf???
Title: Re: 304 stanless steel
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 29, 2021, 09:56:46 am
Wtf????? Weve all been using the wrong stainless!!! I knew something was different about that metal ring generating its own power and making its on hho bubbles the second i dropped that cell in the water!!!
Title: Re: 304 stanless steel
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 29, 2021, 11:04:44 am
I always used 304.
And i also tried 430....
I know that you Brian, used 316...
Title: Re: 304 stanless steel
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 29, 2021, 11:06:29 am
Jim, most of the brown color in the cell comes from the dirt between the watermolecules....
At least, thats what i always had....
Title: Re: 304 stanless steel
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 29, 2021, 11:17:37 am
Could someone please post photos of stans VIC, im especially interested in his chokes.
Title: Re: 304 stanless steel
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 29, 2021, 11:19:08 am
I always used 304.
And i also tried 430....
I know that you Brian, used 316...

whice of the 3 has the highest resistance in ohms...
Title: Re: 304 stanless steel
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 29, 2021, 21:01:01 pm
https://www.lenntech.com/stainless-steel-304.htm

Check that out, B
Title: Re: 304 stanless steel
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 30, 2021, 15:24:09 pm
Back in 2007 i used 304 stainless in the Vertical Cluster Array units
Title: Re: 304 stanless steel
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 30, 2021, 16:05:02 pm
Steve has a good point that dissolved impurities can contribute to discoloration. Stan even says
this in  the Environmental Tape The well water in southern Ohio
often has a high iron content but if  you were to run a demo unit with  for first time with distilled
water you still get discoloration form the slight corrosion of the  non stainless bolts that  Stan used as well
as corrosion if the stainless. The demo units I made used all stainless bolts or nylon (r) bolts, and when operated
 with water they still became discolored but more so the longer and more times one operated the unit
without changing the waiter but just replenishing the water to  keep the water level above the top of
the stainless tubes