Ionizationx: a clean environment is a human right!

Projects by members => Projects by members => Sebosfato => Topic started by: sebosfato on December 14, 2017, 11:15:08 am

Title: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 14, 2017, 11:15:08 am
Hey i´m doing some research on refrigeration cycle... i found something really interesting

In a refrigerator we have mostly 5 parts

condenser

evaporator

compressor (and vaccum pump)

capilar tube

filter

the most interesting part is the capilar tube

its there to create a pressure drop allowing a controlled flow rate between the high pressure and vacum side.

at the output of the capilar the gas will evaporate creating a cold side, the interesting thing i noticed is that this capilar is also wound over this cold side in many applications with the effect of  `` increasing the efficiency ``

A pressure drop in a capilar tube should not create a temperature change should it? different than a resistor that develops heat when we apply voltage as the current flows.. basically the flow of the gas by it self should not create a  temperature change.. so they take the start of the capilar (heat side) and wind over a cold side tubing with the intention of refrigerating the gas before it travels the capilar tube so it will reach the dead end with a much lower temperature than would be possible..

thats my first impressions of it..

I learned, correct me if im wrong.. but refrigerator can transfer heat easier than a resistor can create the same heat.. this mean it would be possible to extract heat from the ambient and simply concentrate it.. to run a turbine or a piston ...

solar energy could be used probably with a amazing efficiency, since we can use small heat collectors to grab all the power of the sun...

cheers

Title: Re: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 15, 2017, 12:24:32 pm
This principle of feedback is amazing!
Title: Re: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 26, 2017, 23:55:03 pm
The moving gas or fluid has lower pressure, a lower pressure means that there are less atom collisions so there's less heat, it's E=3/2kT for the solid ball theory I did this shit 4 years ago, waste of my time.  It's just heat engines really.

How is it going with these theories guys? My last theory was for a  fusion reactor, maybe you can entertain yourself with it if you want, it was essentially having 2 cancelling  counter rotating magnetic fields in the x,y and z  axis, the  accelerator should have been the size of a room to achieve boron fusion if I remember correctly, never got to anything with it, I wasted 3 months of my life trying to design an electric motor running sim after sim, magnetic fields are nothing as we think they are, things don't work in real life as we think they would. My motor was a coreless induction motor it worked in sims but I don't think I could have built it, the electronics are out of my league.

Title: Re: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 08, 2018, 13:30:57 pm
I assembled a small refrigeration system and started to learn a lot from it.. basically I found that heat pumps can have a high cop of the difference between evaporated and condensed temperatures is not too big

I found that we could possibly use a turbine to extract the extra power directly... I’m starting to think that the epg of Stan had something to do with this principle. Basically you can concentrate energy from the ambient heat but if. It’s concentrated you can boil water and run a turbine too
Title: Free energy from ambient
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 15, 2018, 23:16:33 pm
Guys i would like to share some important findings...

Basically I found that is indeed possible to have a cop greater than 4 with heat pumping systems. With the exceptional side effect of having a cold side capable of being useful for many applications!

Now how can we take this and try to understand this process and apply to another systems to get cop greater than 1

How the freezing cycle works?

It takes a compression for concentrating the heat such as it can be taken or dissipated away allowing the refrigerant gas to later gain heat energy from the ambient again and continue the operation.

Looking at electricity how can we compare that situation? What would be the refrigerant gas? What would be the compression? How will it be dissipated or absorbed from ambient?
Title: Re: Free energy from ambient
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 16, 2018, 00:23:38 am
Guys i would like to share some important findings...

Basically I found that is indeed possible to have a cop greater than 4 with heat pumping systems. With the exceptional side effect of having a cold side capable of being useful for many applications!

Now how can we take this and try to understand this process and apply to another systems to get cop greater than 1

How the freezing cycle works?

It takes a compression for concentrating the heat such as it can be taken or dissipated away allowing the refrigerant gas to later gain heat energy from the ambient again and continue the operation.

Looking at electricity how can we compare that situation? What would be the refrigerant gas? What would be the compression? How will it be dissipated or absorbed from ambient?
If electricity is the refrigerant it has to be static electricity in the form of free electrons.  The medium to pump them through needs to be a longitudinal field.  This is not the natural medium but it can still conduct transmitted effects such as electrical vibrations.  Properly phased compound vibrations should entrain the static and move it with its inherent potential, regardless of the current.  The electrons could come from the plasma in a spark gap, moving into the longitudinal circuit through a third spark gap electrode.
Title: Re: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 16, 2018, 23:22:59 pm
tHIS VIDEO TALKS ABOUT hydrogen being a superconductor at very high pressure


Title: Re: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 16, 2018, 23:31:22 pm
Title: Re: Free energy from ambient
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 20, 2018, 02:57:39 am
One way to get a longitudinal field (e.g., medium) along a wire is Moray's single connection coil of a few turns around the promulgation conductor, with a one Farad capacitor.  I'll find a link to his therapudic patent or someone can take the time to post it.

This looks like part of. the Brazilian patent (Borbas?).  Their ambient source is a grid work of 200 ground rods spaced at six feet.

The potential is still based on that of the capacitor.
Title: Re: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 21, 2018, 03:30:12 am
The advantage Moray had with his multi kiloVolt capacitor is it could discharge the stored energy with a much shorter time constant than a heavy bank of low potential Farads holding the same energy.  You can get around this a little by using wide strip strap conductors, since they have low impedance.  Also, a 2,000 Farad cap could pump a pulse transformer for a higher tension wrap coil.

*****

I'm a male man and my planet will send out it's seed.
Title: Re: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 27, 2018, 20:17:07 pm
If would compare the electromagnetic to the refrigeration case I would consider

 the electron as the refrigerant gas

the compressor would be a voltage source

The capilar would be a resistor and is actually where the power is going

because it restrict the flow allowing the pressure difference to grow between the two sides

The condenser and the evaporator has to be the load and energy capture devices respectively

In the electron case the pressure diference won’t create a heat diferencial

Now in the case of magnetic or electric field the greater is the field the greater will be the force of attraction

So what electromagnetic energy is there in the ambient to be captured ?

Or is it possible to amplify the energy somehow?

And if so, how?







Title: Re: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 27, 2018, 23:59:30 pm
In the environment heat is carried by thermal electrons.  Remove electrons by making negative ions and you get cooling.  A charge pump moving electrons will produce a thermal gradient.

An electric field has positive and negative, magnetic is north and south, as is diamagnetic current.  Attract or repel as needed.

Ambient heat can source electrical charge with shape resonance conductors. (IR antenna solar cell.). Especially in the presence of diamagnetic energy.

Title: Re: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 28, 2018, 09:03:52 am
Thats good info, Tek.
I never looked into that subject.
As far as i understood electromagnetisme , thats related to photons.
I once wonderd how a transformer worked and that came out of it. The electrons and photons are related and work together in the transfer mechanisme, of power.

At least, thats what i read. :)
Title: Re: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 28, 2018, 15:03:07 pm
This remember Barbat patent and also Barbosa good point my friends!

I’m trying to understand what would be the behavior of a dc current when passing inside a perpendicular magnetic field like a wire passing inside a coil

Let’s say you get 100 amps on the wire and you get a coil over it with high frequency high power say anothe 100 amps high voltage going like a resonant tank... how would it interfere in the dc or low frequency signal ?

I found that is possible to kind of extract only the power of the generated by the high frequency If à tuned  load is arranged

The low frequency must be a subharmonic with a certain timing to help the oscillation p

I would imagine that the signal output may be at quadrature and maybe twice the frequency of the resonance

We should try some materials to see how we can create this interference
Title: Re: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 28, 2018, 15:46:40 pm
Barbosa’s patent tells you get amps from ground or something... Barbats patent explain about low mass electrons on superconductors an how is possible to amplify power by using the inductive photons to drive the low mass electrons to greater speeds amplifying the inductive energy

I just had a very active night thinking

I wonder if the refrigerant gases can takes a charge on I found rubber tubbing for Freon gas it
Title: Re: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 29, 2018, 01:44:17 am
There's been some pretty good thinking here.  Barbosa's patent is the one I was thinking about, pumping charge from all of the ground rods.  I never bought into Barbat's low mass electrons - less mass in the electrons will produce less inductive momentum.  And that perpendicular coil around a current carrying conductor would be quite similar to a Traveling Wave Tube amplifier.

I did an experiment with hv and magnetism.  Two spark plugs (electrodes) stuck to a well insulated hard drive magnet.  With the flux perpendicular to the ignition coil spark, there were yellow streaks in the spark.  With the flux inline, I saw tiny yellow spheres flowing along the center of the spark.  Potential spirals around the flux, and breaks into corpuscles according to the interrupter rate.  The yellow spheres also represent packets of charge.

My shape resonance circuit uses two potentials in the spark, to provide diamagnetic energy.  This type of energy causes charges to self assemble on a tapered electrode.  The negative charges can't flow from the point  to the wide end, and the positive can't go to the point.  The eventual yellow discharge is external to the small alligator clip, from its side down to the wire it's clipped on.  The static spark occurs a few seconds after the second phase is momentarily connected, then disconnected.  If I coordinate it just right, the yellow spark snaps just as I'm adding the small amount of seed energy for the next charge up.

I found a MW rectenna patent which can be used for the shape resonance effect.  There's quite a bit of detail in that patent which may not be relevant here.  With this circuit the capacitor is bi-phasic for a moment..

(https://s20.postimg.org/vbu2oaqf1/Shape_Resonance_Diode.gif)

I wonder if the refrigerant gases can takes a charge on I found rubber tubbing for Freon gas it

This would be like an EPG.  A moving charge has a magnetic moment.  With diamagnetism, the coil would have to be placed next to the tubing, rather than around it.  That field decreases towards the center of the coil.  edit:  And the connecting wires have to be curved; if they come straight out from the coil, the pump doesn't work.
Title: Re: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 30, 2018, 20:06:10 pm
If you interact light with electricity, you have to deal with parameters.  If the electricity you're using doesn't mutually affect light, you don't have the right kind of electricity. The voltage may be way too low.  Or it might need a poly-phasic characteristic.  (Two signals at 120 degrees gives the sine wave 1.73 of its normal height, which equates to a sharp rise time - but not as good as a compound click.)  Also, where the interaction occurs is another factor.  The electrical signal must get there at the same time as the photon.  So the electrical speed might need to be adjustable.  Minto non-resonance transmits trans luminaly, until 80 to 100 kHz, then quickly drops off, substantially slower.  (Even like molasses, at a high enough frequency.)

From another perspective, even normal electricity can go a specified distance, then curve.  If the completed semi circle would have a resonant length (e.g.: one half wavelength) the curve would throw off an energy beam at some point, and this might interact with light.  Atleast with a longitudinal electrical vibration.

A gradient of these curves should be able to really pump some thermal electrons.

And there's always the option to use rf em as the photon, with the longitudinal force being analogous to the pressure wave given off by a Van deGraaff each time it sparks.  Or maybe just curve the pressure wave at some distance.  Out there in the atmosphere.
Title: Re: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 01, 2018, 18:31:57 pm
Two closely spaced spinning discs also work as a charge pump.  The centrifuge force produces a pressure gradient.  Negative ions fly straight outwards, but positive ions move inwards across the gradient.  Close spacing of the discs might be capillary, and the positive ions exist as a blob slowly rotating in the center.  (What force does that produce?)
Title: Re: Heat transfer
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 10, 2018, 20:27:50 pm
Perhaps a three-phase electrical generator connected to a Step Down Transformer to complete the circuit the low voltage generation. Suppose a second identical setup connected to the first. Suppose a third identical setup connect it to the second. Suppose the first set up generates electricity enter the last are the last generation to the second are they second generates it into the first however you look at it or one fails the other supplies or the other one fails the other ones Supply Suppose there is a resonance what about high voltage step down 2 household usable voltages closely guarded never talked about grounded Deep by the Earth charged High by the skies.