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Title: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 23, 2016, 15:24:41 pm
For all who likes to follow my project on the Anderson setup.
For whatever reason, i think i have enough information to start a replication project.

What do i have sofar:
2 soft iron electrodes of 30cm by 30cm in a just cut shape.

A freecad drawing for a casing for the electrodes, see attachment.
Spacing between the electrodes is 76.2mm which equals 3 inches.

Next step is to design the end caps for the cell and to preper the electrodes for futher threatment
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 24, 2016, 15:44:30 pm
So, after more hours spending with my computer and the new joy of playing with a cad program, i have now, i think, a matching set of base and end caps.
If you have any comments for improvements, please jump in here.

At least i know now how to use a cad program. New knowledge.
These components are now ready to be send to a 3D printer hub.

cheers!
Title: HELP!!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 24, 2016, 16:35:05 pm
I just checked for some prices for 3D printing of these component.
These are very expensive parts.
They ask around 2000 euro / dollars......

Are there any members here who can help me out here by printing these parts or maybe by donations?

Attached are the stl files......
I need 1 base and 2 deksels/ end caps....

yours
Steve
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 24, 2016, 17:58:21 pm
Steve I sent a message to someone that may be able to print them for you. He should be contacting you once he get the message.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 24, 2016, 19:11:28 pm
Steve I sent a message to someone that may be able to print them for you. He should be contacting you once he get the message.

 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Ronny, you are the man!
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 24, 2016, 22:38:54 pm
He just sent me a message back and said he would contact you after he got off work. I hope things work out so you can get it done.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 25, 2016, 13:35:09 pm
He just sent me a message back and said he would contact you after he got off work. I hope things work out so you can get it done.

The guy said he could not do it, because of the sizes...... :( :( :( :(

Anybody else?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 25, 2016, 13:44:40 pm
I'll ask two other people that I know that has 3D printers. What is the size of the parts so I can ask them if they can print them?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 25, 2016, 14:05:36 pm
Dear Ronny,

I found out that there are some kind of printer limits.
First type of printers do max 200mm x 200mm
Second type do 400mm by 400mm

I now adjusted my endcaps. Took the fancy stands off.

The size of the cell and the endcaps are 400mm by 400mm, so it should match more printers....

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 25, 2016, 19:38:09 pm
Hello Steve.

There are other aspects that 3D printers cant be good enough.

Since they are printed in several layers and directions, it leaks water everywhere.
ABS plastic can be better but my (little) experience with my 3D printer tells me to use Derlin and a lathe.

I use my printer just for the coil formers and other stuff. it is very slow. An entire wfc with at least 6 tubes can take 2 days (24 hour ou more) continuous printing.

I really dont recomend that.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 25, 2016, 20:07:13 pm
(https://s11.postimg.org/8cautcxwj/PI_TUIT.jpg)

The bigger one takes 7h24 to print with normal quality 0.2mm layer width, and uses 94g of filament.

You can see the statistics on the bottom right of the part.

The green part are the supports that must break after print by hand, since can not print on air, and it usually takes big part of the time and some filament.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 25, 2016, 22:07:00 pm
Herman said you had to build it to the size of the engine....the one he had was in a 302....a smaller one cylinder engine would be an easier build to start...once we figure out what he ment by magnetics the size and spacing can be much smallee.

I remember him saying that.
My cell size is similar to that of Anderson for the only reason that at 12v it should consume around 20 amps with a pH 12 water in there.
Thats the reference.
With that amount of amps and volts he added 700000V during a 50 percent pulse of 8hz.

The result should be a running v8.
So running my 1kw genset on that cell must be an easy thing.....
At least in my hope and dreams.


Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 25, 2016, 22:11:23 pm
Hello Steve.

There are other aspects that 3D printers cant be good enough.

Since they are printed in several layers and directions, it leaks water everywhere.
ABS plastic can be better but my (little) experience with my 3D printer tells me to use Derlin and a lathe.

I use my printer just for the coil formers and other stuff. it is very slow. An entire wfc with at least 6 tubes can take 2 days (24 hour ou more) continuous printing.

I really dont recomend that.

Thanks for the tip. If i get a set printed and if it would leak, i will coat the inside with a special layer coating against leaking.
However, if you or someone can do that late trick and create a similar product......I am in  :)
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 25, 2016, 22:25:14 pm
Herman said you had to build it to the size of the engine....the one he had was in a 302....a smaller one cylinder engine would be an easier build to start...once we figure out what he ment by magnetics the size and spacing can be much smallee.

Kevin, the magnetics are always there where current flows thru a conductor.
The two soft iron core electrodes will produce a magnetic field at 12v and 20amps for sure.
I seen hydrogen ions rush thru my cell with help of a hugh 800watt electromagnet.....
Anderson showed the direction of the tornado effect that he wanted to avoid.

Look at the pic i attached...
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 26, 2016, 09:00:11 am
uhhh.....Kevin? 

If some have the unedited version of the Herman Anderson interview somewere, please share it now.
I dont have it. Thats for sure.
But we do have the video that at the end shows us the sigarbox with electronic steering circuit.
I understood that that box came from Herman?
The rest of the sparkgap and options on magnetic fields we just have to try.
I believe i have enough knowledge now for a proper attemp.
Dont forget that i have a degree in high frequency electronics and 10 years of doing watercells in many published and un published projects....

Dont give up hope.

Herman was the real deal.


Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 30, 2016, 17:00:27 pm
Update:

The idea of 3d printing all plastic parts have been cancelled.
The more or less affordable plastics are not resistance enough against a pH acid environment.

It made me go back to polycarbonate plates and fuse them with Dichloormethaan annex Methylene Chloride.
The good thing is that the cell will be transparant and very strong.
The bad part is the amount of work .........
Polycarbonate is strong, UV resistant and also KOH water resistant. It is allowing magnetic field and EMF waves thru.

Hope i made the right choice.

 
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 01, 2016, 02:34:08 am
Bro I don't know exactly how your deign Is but I would sAy it's A good idea I'm using acrylic only because I didn't had policarbonato it has a much better resistance against heat and breaking... 

Man I'm doing a cell with two connections on the inner electrode on the opposite sides to get a alternating magnetic field high amps
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 01, 2016, 06:57:00 am
Bro I don't know exactly how your deign Is but I would sAy it's A good idea I'm using acrylic only because I didn't had policarbonato it has a much better resistance against heat and breaking... 

Man I'm doing a cell with two connections on the inner electrode on the opposite sides to get a alternating magnetic field high amps


that sounds interesting!
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 01, 2016, 12:11:20 pm
I thought so since I had to make another cell why not to make the best I can?
I hope today it will be ready i post some pics for you to view and tell if you can maybe improve something in the design. My plan is to make it look like a big capacitor and probably I will encapsulate it when posssible, tô avoid Corona.

My idea is to make it very low esr too as it already has a low resistance in parallel to ruin the capacity property!

I believe a magnetic field in the rod will repel or attract the magnetic field of the changing electric field ad leak current. But the main idea is to inject the oscillation into the cell... I'm happy you enjoyed, make me know your thoughts about that!
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 01, 2016, 14:15:18 pm
I thought so since I had to make another cell why not to make the best I can?
I hope today it will be ready i post some pics for you to view and tell if you can maybe improve something in the design. My plan is to make it look like a big capacitor and probably I will encapsulate it when posssible, tô avoid Corona.

My idea is to make it very low esr too as it already has a low resistance in parallel to ruin the capacity property!

I believe a magnetic field in the rod will repel or attract the magnetic field of the changing electric field ad leak current. But the main idea is to inject the oscillation into the cell... I'm happy you enjoyed, make me know your thoughts about that!

My thoughts are that you are getting closer to my Anderson replication annex theory.
Herman wrapped copper wire around his cell. How that looked like is unclear. The reason however is very clear in theory, of course.
The goal is to achieve radiolysis and magnetisme for acceleration of ions. Resulting in bigger mass molecules like deuterium.
The coil with sparkgap creates all of this. When the spark sparks, a high peak of magnetisme will occure.....
Maybe something for you......

cheers bro
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 02, 2016, 02:25:38 am
Cheers man

I just realized that I can make the electrical connectors for the Delrin cell just the same and it won't leak or have bad contact.. basically we need to screw straight into the electrode to get the oring pressed not on the plastic... so the screws just need to have the right size and inside the cell a small acrilyc disc with holes will let the water to pass thru into the cell but will cover the screw no allowing electrical flow from the screw to the rod... is not going to be good for two connections aT the rods but at least the Delrin won't melt nor will be a bad contact there, bad contact equal to voltage drop and power loss as heat...
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 02, 2016, 22:17:23 pm
Almost ready with all the parts to put together
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 03, 2016, 00:35:45 am
looks good!
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 04, 2016, 16:22:01 pm
Check it out bro
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 04, 2016, 17:06:59 pm
Looks like a nice new experiment.
Fabio, maybe you should start your own project topic?
Now yours and my are a bit mixed.
What do you think?

cheers!
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 04, 2016, 19:54:48 pm
Of course bro! Will do it soon!! Sorry to get off topic I just wanted to help inspire some simple way of doing a good cell! 
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 09, 2016, 09:43:34 am
today i received the polycabonate parts. All well cut.
They look great! Also the special welding glue is arrived.
Now its up to the fine sanding of the cut edges and then i am ready for the welding. Never done that before.
Happely i bought some extra pieces for test welds  :)

cheers
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 09, 2016, 15:12:17 pm
I use a syringe to apply the glue but when pieces are big I use to dip them into the liquid for a little while like when gluing tubes etc...  you will do it great!! Just put the pieces together and apply the glue there between and it will spread just like water would do so you can test with water to see if you are getting a good result before using the glue!!! Sometimes is not necessary to sand it much just clean and bang!



Cheers man

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 09, 2016, 18:14:15 pm
Thats the way  i do it, Fabio. The bond is so strong. Unbelievable.
Dichlormethane is what i use as glue. Its more a weld then glue.

Here the first piece is ready

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 10, 2016, 08:20:05 am
That's cool Steve....are u putting the standing pipe apparatus on it?Just a reminder it's there to keep the water from getting to hot.

How should that look like?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 10, 2016, 16:47:07 pm
its not really needed to prove the working of the cell, i think. It makes only sense if you want to use it in fulltime operation, is it?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 10, 2016, 19:33:41 pm
Two questions

Is there a waterpump in there?
Is the standing pipe the gas outlet?

cheers
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 11, 2016, 09:56:11 am
 
 
Herman Anderson
By compiled by
Zero Point Films
Hydrogen-on-Demand
Deuterium Gas
, sometimes called H2 with the number "2" placed above,instead of below, the center of the "H", as when writing H20, and aka "heavyhydrogen" (not to be confused with the liquid deuterium oxide, aka "heavywater") may well be one of the keys to a successful water fuel system.Herman Anderson is the only water fuel device inventor to talk openly and atlength about this. Herman explained why it is important to make deuterium,which is a non-radioactive isotope of hydrogen. It is twice as dense ashydrogen. That means you will need less than 1/2 of the gas you wouldotherwise need to run a car! It also means that the flame speed is reduced!That means more power!Some of the challenges associated with using hydrogen as fuel are eliminatedsimply by tweaking the hydrogen produced from water so that it becomesdeuterium. Again, we're not talking about "heavy water", but "heavyhydrogen". It is rocket science, to be sure, and that is why Herman wasuniquely qualified to know how to do it. He was a rocket scientist.He may not have had a degree in physics, but he knew ions, and he was theone to reveal this to the world in his own Tennessee "country boy" way. Hesaid that a
70,000 volt
corona discharge superimposed on normal electrolysiswill cause the hydrogen ions to form deuterium. He further stated that the gasis powerful enough that you have to shut down production of it at idle.It used an LP regulator and had a working pressure of 8 ounces!
Herman's System:
A 3-1/2" wide slice of 14" OD PVC pipe
is fitted with
two narrow (1") stripsof the same pipe
recessed just inside of its two openings. This allows themounting of the
two 13" round nickel-plated steel anode and cathodeplates
to these mounting flanges.A gasket and gasket-sealing compound are used to seal the plates to thechamber.
The plates thus mounted are now 3" apart
. They have a short1/2" bolt welded to the middle of each plate, facing outward, to accommodatethe electrical connection, which is
a battery cable on the positive side
, and
a battery cable and a HV spark wire on the negative side

The chamber has 4 holes drilled and tapped at the 12:00, 3:00, 6:00 and9:00 positions. The two located at 3:00 and 6:00 accept 1" barbed hoseconnectors and plastic hoses that connect to a 2" PVC stand pipe
. It isused as a thermo-siphon radiator and allows the introduction and circulationof the KOH electrolyte solution (
pH 12, using de-ionized or ozonatedwater
).The 9:00 hole is capped and unused.
The 12:00 hole is drilled and tappedto accommodate a 1-1/2" white plastic sink trap adapter 'T' drainpipe
.This allowed for the passage of the hydroxy gas on to the LP regulator andfinally the engine's carburetor. It also allowed for the introduction of a streamof pressurized air from the car's heater blower fan.
A Honeywell gas pressure sensing switch
, mounted between the chamber and the regulator, detects hydroxy pressure and shuts down the current to theelectrolyzer when it reaches 8 oz. Gas production is thus cycled on and off asneeded.The aluminum throat that is used to induct the hydroxy to the carburetor is likethat formerly used on an LP forklift. It prevents the escape of the lighter-than-air hydrogen gas.
A Lemert Selectrol water injection device, such as used on a WWII P-51bomber
, introduces a fog-like stream of water vapor to the intake manifold,which serves to cool the burn of the hydrogen and adds steam power to thecombustion stroke.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 11, 2016, 10:01:49 am
who is jwarswolves?

zero point films is from Chris Patton?
http://peswiki.com/directory:chris-patton

Is there more info outthere?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 11, 2016, 19:08:57 pm
Kevin, you keep me amazed!
 :)

Not sure that this is proper english, but he...

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 12, 2016, 08:57:08 am
Thanks Kevin.

I want to see first if the cell produces more hydrogen with the highvoltage system then without.
Also want to see if the burnrate changes of the gas, which should.
Not sure if the standing convector is part of that proces.
But for sure that that cooling system can be added easely after.

Here a video with a gas feeding system similar to that of Herman.

I also added the vid as download below.

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 12, 2016, 09:12:37 am
One question about that animal as gas outlet in top of the cell.
I tries to analyse it. But it seems to me that you succeeded to replicate it. What is that siphone type of thing in detail?

cheers!
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 12, 2016, 19:02:34 pm
update
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 13, 2016, 18:17:23 pm
update

If I were you I would go about it with those parts in the same fashion as Herman did so at least your visuals won't be impeded by bolts in the way it looks like you're fixing to attempt.

Kevin, can i ask you to make a sketch drawing of that gas outlet? I appreciate your explanation but my non english brain will not get it.

Here more pics. I could spend some spare minutes on the project
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 14, 2016, 16:35:43 pm
What kind of electrodes are you using?

Here's ya a little sketch....I've got pictures in my thread of it all...it's just on my mini cell but all that stuff fits the big cell...its not that big of deal to understand but if its not there then its kind of a big deal if you are trying to do what Herman was doing.
You might replace air with fog and experience a more favorable outcome because any way you make fog and introduce it....it will have air in it.

My electrodes are soft iron types and will be plated with Nickel after i am done prepering them.

As for your theory about the top pipes, i want to share my vision on it.
The airblower as supercharger is i think not what it is.
The right exit to the pressure switch is clear. It goes further to the pressure regulator of the gas installation.
The left exit would be from my point of view a safety exit valve if the pressure keeps on rising.
When the valve would open, you dont want the D2O gasses under the hood of your car.
To prevent a big bang, Anderson might have used the interieur ventilator to suck out the gasses from the cell to the interieur. This is anyway the main purpose of that side of the ventilator system in a car, is it.
I also would not like to ventilate the possible D2O strait outside the car. Just let it mix with the interieur and no harm done.
The valve would only open when the pressure in the cell would be too high.

Now the question to you:
How much pressure would Herman had in his cell?
An airintake monifolt pulls max around 15psi or 1 bar.
So, Hermans cell must have used a higher pressure like 30psi?

Cheers!






Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 14, 2016, 17:05:22 pm
Just to not forget from one of our members:

Hello everyone. I'm new here, but I've been fascinated with water fuel technology since 2001. In 2006 I had the fortune of visiting the Kentucky Water Fuel Musuem one Saturday afternoon with James A. Robey. James. This was about 1 year after James had acquired Herman Anderson's 1971 Ford Ltd car named the "Green Machine". James had the water radiolysis (or is it hyrdolysis) chamber out of the car and up on a rolling wooden stand in the middle of the museum. James explained that his teenage son had removed the chamber from the car without asking him. James was quite frustrated and trying to figure out how this all worked. James had tried many attempts with using a HV generator (40,000 volts I believe) from a drag racing supply shop. James connected this HV supply to a 3 foot spark plug wire and wrapped it around the chamber. This produced little or no results. I suggested to James that he point the exposed end of the wire at the side of the chamber on the bolt head and leave a small spark gap (1/4" roughly). In doing this we got a violet colored spark and instant great results! The psi gauge went nuts and started to rise quickly. Perhaps this is a clue or old news, but I thought I'd share my experience with Herman Anderson's car. It seemed we had figured out how to create this corona discharge and easily unlock the H2O molecules. If anyone knows how to contact James or has his email, could you please private message me or help put me in touch with him. I'd love to see this car again. Does anyone know the status of James A. Robey and the original Herman Anderson car? Thank you very much!
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 15, 2016, 14:10:03 pm
8 ounces is 0.5 bar.
I have more pressure inside my body then that...hahahahahaha
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 15, 2016, 18:53:55 pm
where did you find that number of the honeywell pressure thing?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 16, 2016, 11:37:38 am
Still searching for the dicsussions... They are very splintered on that yahoo group
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 16, 2016, 14:12:12 pm
8 ounces is 0.5 bar.
I have more pressure inside my body then that...hahahahahaha

All you've gotta do is look at the setting on his pressure switch.....If you don't know how to calculate inches of water to kPa and then kPa to psi then look up the part number of his pressure switch ...the instruction manual should help you learn how to do that.
The pressure switch he used has a bleed valve and a manual reset...His switch was set just under 8 ounces...
Theres no way Herman's cell maintained 30 psi.

Hi Kevin,

Its nice to talk about this. And also very nice to have these pics here.
I looked up the pressure switch relais.
If the setting didnt change, then we read around 8 Inches of water column.
The switch it self is from 5 till 35 inches of water column.
This changes my view on things completely.
Because 8 inches of water column is just barely pressure, is it?
0.02bar or 0.3 PSI.
Thats just a starting cell. No high pressures, just a tiny bit.
What are your thoughts here?





Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 16, 2016, 14:55:34 pm
Also the bolt on the hole does not seems to be fully welded around the head of the bolt.
That might support your other theory....
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 16, 2016, 19:17:34 pm
The main thing or goal with Herman's system as is with Stan's system is to get ALL the information out to everybody that wants it.
We need to concentrate on getting the COMPLETE INTERVIEW TAPE....We are shooting in the dark without it.....Somebody in Australia has it.

2 things are s noticeably different from the way Herman had it and the way it's pictures are on the rolling chasis...Have you noticed what they are?

Have you ever ignited a micro bubble in the water ?

Kevin, i watch the video every day and played with audio filters to hear better what is said.
But please just tell what is different?
And other question is do you uave a name of that Aussie?
I know some people over there.....

any remark about the welding of the bold on top of the hole?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 18, 2016, 16:08:15 pm
Thanks kevin.
Get some sleep and lots of fun.
Merry christmas to you too and talk to you soon again.

Hohohohoho  ;)
(bad Santa Imitation)
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 18, 2016, 16:13:58 pm
Found another post on a forum from a certain Willy:

Anderson suposedly used a 0.5 to 1 psi honeywell switch it was said that it could be heard cutting off and on while going down the road and at stop times he mentions that he used a blower fan ducted into the cell, it makes me wonder if he had a ionzer in with the blower. It also talkes about the 13 inch round cell having holes in the very center where the high voltage was connected there is a pdf online that shows the system and tells four or five pages on the cell. I have a gut feeling that the car was real just because my uncle was a stand up guy and he was hooked on the idea after seeing it in person.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 18, 2016, 16:14:24 pm
Another post by a certain Bob Boyce

I personally examined the electronics and system used by Herman Anderson. The US DoE (Dept of Energy) would certainly not allow such a system to be used on a passenger vehicle, especially with Homeland Security around these days, due to the high risk of radioactive tritium generation. He was given a personal exemption due to his expertise, and the fact that he had worked for the governement in the specialized field of ionics.

The Herman Anderson car used a basic 3" length of plastic pipe with 13" round metal plates. Pretty much a drum electrolyser to generate the hydroxy gas, using fairly high current pulsed DC. The timing circuit ran at 15 Hz, with the pulse train run through a flip-flop. The two outputs at 7.5 hz each were fed to alternating loads, one was the switching for the pulsed DC driving the cell itself, and the other was the switching for pulsing the car coils. The output of the car coils was directed to a length of ignition wire that was wrapped like a coil around the perimeter of the cell drum, then terminating into a spark gap to the outside of the electrode plate. His electrodes were plated mild steel in order to obtain his desired magnetic effects while retaining chemical resistance to the base electrolyte.

As Herman was an expert in ionics, his goal was to bump up the energy level of the hydrogen to deuterium as simply as possible. While the simple setup can seem to be misleading to those that do not understand radiolysis. The combined effect of the extreme high voltage, and the spark gap, is to create both very sharp charge gradient impulses, and electromagnetic impulses, to irradiate the electrolyte and gas. So while he speaks of radiation, it is not the sort of radioactivity that one would require the use of heavy shielding for. The EMI produced would pretty much be contained by the metal shielding of a closed hood and crowded engine compartment. As long as the voltage was maintained in the correct range, deuterium production could be maximized while tritium production could be minimized.

Yes, there was a water fog injection system. The use of water fog allows for an additional amount of thermally expansive mass to be inducted into the engine, as the water fog will absorb energy during combustion and flash to steam.

There are a lot of similarities in the method that Herman Anderson used, and in the method that Stanley Meyer used in one of his systems.

Bob Boyce

More of Bob on Anderson

Just a single reference should be enough to get the wheels turning in your mind. I really do feel that you are intelligent enough to take it from there, but can you overcome your natural tendency to just dismiss everything you do not immediately understand as fantasy.

Isotope separation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scroll down to "Alternatives":

"The only alternative to isotope separation is to manufacture the required isotope in its pure form. This may be done by irradiation of a suitable target, but care is needed in target selection and other factors to ensure that only the required isotope of the element of interest is produced."

You seem to grasp part of the concept of pumping matter to higher energy states, now all you need to do is make the connection that photons are just another form of EM radiation. And yes, isomeric and isotopic changes to matter CAN be driven via EM irradiation. Sometimes it takes multiple wavelengths at the same time in order to obtain a desired effect. Sometimes phase is not important, sometimes it is, it depends upon the goal.

And more:

If you would refer again to the link I posted, and scroll down to "Alternatives", then you would see that irradiation to create a desired isotope is an ALTERNATIVE to seperation.

Surely you are not so niave as to believe that even distilled water is so pure as to contain no other elements besides the bound hydrogen and oxygen. Or that matter cannot be broken down and reformed via application of energies. If so, then I am likely wasting my time.

Matter is energy. If one can learn how to interfere with the energy matrix of that matter, one can alter that matter. The simplest patterns are the components that make up the smallest components in atoms. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe because the hydrogen atom has the simplest energy matrix of all atoms. Therefore, it is also the easiest atom to alter.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 18, 2016, 17:46:19 pm
Well heavy water can be made with centrifugal force and even maybe gravitational force

All you get to do is to get the water from the bottom than refill with fresh water  and collect more again

Heavy water is heavier so it stays on the bottom of the reservoir

Unless we open a wormhole is not possible to simply transform hydrogen into deuterium it takes one more proton for this to happen you won't toss out a proton from no where.

It seem to me this description is not very scientific,.... 

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 18, 2016, 21:16:16 pm
bolt: large (1/2") short (2") bolt

The grey box is a Honeywell LP gas pressure switch. When the gas pressure rises to a certain level, for instance, when the car is at idle, the switch turns off power to the chamber. As I said, I think Dingel's Toyota has a similar arrangement. The girl interviewing him as she's driving the car asks what the "clicking" noise is, and he replies that it is the intermittent production of gas.

The pcv "T" pipe on top is similar to what's under your kitchen sink, except that it has a baffle inside it to route the gas rising from the chamber to the right, towards the gas pressure switch and the regulator and on to the carburetor. The fact that he used an oversized fragile piece of plastic pipe at this critical juncture could have been a deliberate attempt to reduce the seriousness of an unwanted explosion. If you have another explanation, please offer it.

The yellow hose connected to the left side of the PVC "T" pipe, and controlled by a red valve, is connected to the heater blower housing, as if he was using the existing heater blower as a type of supercharger, the flow of air controlled by the red valve. I can't say for sure that this was the way it was used, it may not have been used at all. But it is siliconed in place in such a way that it was obviously done with a purpose in mind. Could it be that a slight positive flow of air is essential to making this type of induction system work? Maybe to keep the chamber gas pressure from being the only source of pressure? To force a mixture of gases into the intake? Please comment on this if you can venture a guess.

The removable cap on the vertical PVC pipe is for refilling the chamber and checking the pH of the electrolyte. Electrolyte solution pH 12, KOH added to deionized or ozonated water. The vertical PVC is connected to the chamber by...

The 3/4" clear plastic tubing that acts as the convection cooling system. It connects to the chamber at the 3:00 and 6:00 positions by 3/4" male nylon barbed fittings and to the vertical PVC pipe, high and low, so that one of the laws of thermodynamics can do its thang. (Remember, this is the South).

There is a threaded PVC plug at the 9:00 position of the chamber; it doesn't appear to have been used.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 18, 2016, 21:27:51 pm
Here is Anderson's account of the workings of his latest experiment:
Situated in a back corner of his car's engine compartment is a reservoir of ionized water, into which positive and negative electric terminals are placed.
When a charge is sent throught the water, the water molecules - H2O - split.
The oxygen atoms cling to the positive electrode while the hydrogen atoms, in an ionized state, are conducted through the solution to the negative plate.
There, the hydrogen atoms recombine under an electrical charge to produce H2 - hydrogen gas - which is collected and directed through a LP gas carburator into the manifold for distribution to the cylinders.
Also at the manifold, a fine mist of distilled water is injected.
"The water expands as steam when the gas ignites and gives the piston a good solid push all the wa down," Anderson said. "It's much more powerful than a gasoline engine."
Besides the increased horsepower, which has been measured on a dynamometer, Anderson contends that the engine runs about 20% cooler and produces only water vapor and nitrous oxide - laughing gas - as emissions.
The entire alternative fuel system has been intricately coordinated with the conventional carburator and timing system, making it possible to switch fuel sources while the engine is running, Anderson demonstrated with a toggle switch on the car's dashboard.
Anderson who sas he has been inventing since age 12, further demonstrated the engine by disconnecting the gasoline fuel lines and allowing the engine to deplete the fuel left in the carburator. He then switched on the electricity to the hydrogen gas generator and restarted the motor.
The automated system of colorful wires, tubes and water tanks under the hood of Anderson's green and white Ford sedan can be put together by anyone who has the right information and about $300.
The items that Anderson did not fashion himself from tubing and valves can be purchased from automobile parts stores that carry components for propane powered engines, Anderson said.
"That's why I waited so long to tell anyone about it," Anderson smiled. "I feel like I'm protected as bast as I can with my patent applications."
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 18, 2016, 23:15:00 pm
Probably the water mist is for reducing the detonation speed of the gas...

I found  on Wikipedia that one on every 3200 molecules In Natural water one is deuterium oxide

So if you get a huge water tower you make lot of heavy water

One every 3200 mean if you get 3000 liters of water you get one liter of deuterium oxide in it

Deuterium is residue on electrolysis when there water and according to Stan it must be flushed out

Rain water should have less heavy water where deep ocean water should have the most
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 22, 2016, 21:48:34 pm
Tomorrow i am back in my home country where i will meet my welder. He does that for years now and is very supportive for my projects.
I am very happy that he is still there.
He will weld the bolds on the soft iron plates / electrodes.
I made a hole in one of them as described by Kevin.
After welding i will prep the electrodes for nickel plating.
Step by step.....

cheers!
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 31, 2016, 15:02:21 pm
I am a happy man. The welder did a great job.
My both electrodes are done, except for the plating and the prep for the plating.

So, now another issue: the 70kV and 11mA. U=I*R means 70000V / 0.011 = 6,363,636 ohm
Normal ignition coils have a resistance of 10,500 ohms
If you use two coils, then you have 21,000 ohms
Not even close to the 6363,636 ohms.....
Does anybody have ideas on this?


Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 03, 2017, 15:24:12 pm
How to measure 70kv with a spark gap distance:

0.5 cm: 17.0/17.0
1.0 cm: 31.3/31.3
1.5 cm: 44.5/44.8
2.0 cm: 57.0/57.4
2.5 cm: 68.8/69.3
3.0 cm: 78.8/79.4
3.5 cm: 86.6/88.0
4.0 cm: 93.6/....
4.5 cm: 99.8/....
5.0 cm: 105.5/....

From A.I.E.E Standards June 1940 as tabled in "Gaseous Conductors", J.D. Cobine, 1958. These are close to the values given in IEEE Std 4-1995 "IEEE Standard Techniques for High-Voltage Testing".
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 05, 2017, 16:49:24 pm
Update:

I brought my electrodes to the company that will plate them with Nickel.
Should get them back next week friday   :) :) :) :)

I am also getting 70kV out of my coils, already, which is also good progres!

cheers
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 06, 2017, 10:33:19 am
It would be nice if you could re start your Anderson project.
Sofar it is just you and me doing this.

Do you have maybe a suggestion for that oversized SCR ?

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 06, 2017, 12:31:31 pm
Ill gues i just will use a solid state relais for switching of the power to the positive of the cell.....
I found a nice one 1-100vdc and 80 amps SSR. I used them before and they do a good job.

cheers
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 06, 2017, 23:24:38 pm
Kevin, i am happy that we both take different routes. Lets see what works.

In the mean while, i am looking for the propane system of Anderson.
This is what i have sofar:
He used a secondairy regulator model J&S Carb Model 600.
A possible replacement: CLARK 721019 REGULATOR
However, i cannot find sofar the specifications of that replacement part.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/CLARK-721019-J-S-MODEL-600-SECONDARY-REGULATOR-NEW-REPLACEMENT-LPG-IMPCO-JS-GAS-/181115563574?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

250 euro's!!!

Alternative? : https://carbturbo.com/product/impco-beam-t52n-n-2/
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 07, 2017, 16:15:30 pm
The other component of the hydrogen installation is the IMPCO 300 mixer carburator...

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 07, 2017, 16:32:03 pm
The engine was a Ford 351 CID V8.

Something like this one:





Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 07, 2017, 16:49:57 pm
and a new hydrogen flow meter arrived from Hongkong  :)
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 07, 2017, 16:51:12 pm
is there maybe some one who can donate me such a Ford engine? It doesnt have to be new..... :)
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 07, 2017, 21:25:59 pm
Some thoughts:
If Herman used a v8 engine of around 6 litres, then a 4 cylinder engine with 2.5 litres would act the same?
Meaning that the cylinder size, piston size and crank movement should be similar? Except that there are 4 cylinders less of course....

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 08, 2017, 11:40:37 am
vw golf type 3 or 2 with 1.8 liter 75bhp or 55kw has a carburator.
vw golf type 3 1H1 2.0 liter carb.115bhp
Audi 2.0 liter is a better option. Easier to work with under the hood...

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 08, 2017, 22:25:37 pm
Have you got your cell DC paremeters yet?

No. The electrodes are now getting their plating.
Friday i will get them back...

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 10, 2017, 17:01:05 pm
not sure yet. Just have to have the basics right. Then i will start tweeking and measuring..
Maybe the setup works directly.. ;) :)
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 15, 2017, 10:28:42 am
Some delay with supplier. The electrodes were not ready.
Coming week ready they say.

In the meanwhile i added the water entry and gas outlet components.
Also received my chips for the electronic steering board who contains some nice tricks.
I expect next week a first run before.


cheers
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 17, 2017, 16:58:07 pm
ding dong! Yr two plates are ready....

And so it happend today that i was able to mount the last pieces together of my transparant Anderson waterfuelcell....

Yesterday i managed to create the flipflop doing 15hz and two 7.5hz pulses.
The high current solid state relais is also here.

I would say: well done sofar against myself...
 :) ;)
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 18, 2017, 21:42:38 pm
picture
Title: radiolysis addition to electrolysis
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 20, 2017, 13:32:47 pm
Here are the values given by Horvath about the strength of the magnetic fieldlines.

cheers
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 20, 2017, 17:06:31 pm
Kevin, first ran on battery didnt produce lots of gas.
Did you have the same results?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 20, 2017, 19:39:24 pm
Have you got your cell DC paremeters yet?

yeah.
9.5 amps direct hooked up to battery. Gas production is low.
pH of 12


cheers
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 22, 2017, 17:57:33 pm
update:

With help of a little bit more KOH, the cell pulls easy 23 amps.
In a pulsing mode, the chinese ampmeter shows a 15amp max pulse.
The circuit is for now ready. One dc pulse followed by 1 HV pulse.
I sparked it to the positive and nothing.
I sparked it to the negative and at first nothing happend, then followed by a big bang.
My ears hurt.
What happend?
No idea.
My first thoughts were that the spark might have jumped into the cell thru the gas outlet.
So, the next tests where performed.
I switched again from sparking at the positive to sparking at the negative and again a big bang.
Thank God that my cell is strongly made. The explosion was clearly in the cell and the pressure went thru the gas outlet to the outside......

WHAT THE H IS GOING ON HERE?

I am ok futher. No damage fysical and also no damage to my equipment....







Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 23, 2017, 00:22:12 am
Derrela total

Crazy man, hope your ears are fine... be careful with the explosions

Take care

Fabio
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 24, 2017, 10:43:53 am
Thanks Fabio. My ears did hurt a bit but are fine now.
 :)

Kevin, i repeated and repeated and listend to the interview with Herman. I modified the sound and filterd it so it was better to follow.
Herman clearly states that he switches dc and hv on the anode.
I will stick with that for now.
The other unclear till now bla bla from the interview was about the standing waves.
I think i have now a better picture of that as well.
7.5c per second has to do with that. As well as the potentiometer in his electronic circuitboard.
You see, to amplify the electromagnetic waves between the electrodes you must tune the frequency to match it.
Not sure yet if it is the hv or dc or both that has to deal with it....

Today i will run the setup again and i will adjust the freq till i see something  ;)
Maybe make some scope picture too and a video of it all.

cheers

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 24, 2017, 10:54:13 am
update:

With help of a little bit more KOH, the cell pulls easy 23 amps.
In a pulsing mode, the chinese ampmeter shows a 15amp max pulse.
The circuit is for now ready. One dc pulse followed by 1 HV pulse.
I sparked it to the positive and nothing.
I sparked it to the negative and at first nothing happend, then followed by a big bang.
My ears hurt.
What happend?
No idea.
My first thoughts were that the spark might have jumped into the cell thru the gas outlet.
So, the next tests where performed.
I switched again from sparking at the positive to sparking at the negative and again a big bang.
Thank God that my cell is strongly made. The explosion was clearly in the cell and the pressure went thru the gas outlet to the outside......

WHAT THE H IS GOING ON HERE?

I am ok futher. No damage fysical and also no damage to my equipment....

If its possible always have a video recording of every test or experiment.
We haven't seen the hole you made or anything you did to the anode prior to plating.
I could be wrong but you may be better off configuring  a set of parameters with something like this in dealing with the HV part to start with.
How strong is your magnetic field? The only possible way I've found to do it is like the pic in my  inductors thread.Think about this....a microwaves ciramic magnet is usually around 800 gauss.
Those wires in there are just thrown in there to show as example .
And if you want your PH to last for any length of time you'll need to go ahead and do the 20% by weight and document all your run time....its going to  require an honest and true go at it to be successful my friend.
Just to add a cpl more cents here....the alternating DC and HV pulse didn't come from Herman....that is an opinion from various people that only had part of a circuit ....it can't work that way ...it's just not possible.It requires the HV to be an alternating current not a DC current...and that's just another opinion ;)

I'll run this sinerio by you....
What do you think would happen if wires like the ones in this picture functioned not only as corona discharge (between the turns ) but also as the third electrode required with the core and coils attachment(reverse polarity) in my inductor thread?

My personal opinion about that picture is that this is NOT the way to do this unnless you want to blow up yourself.
There is absolute no hv wire inside the cell.
Corona discharge tubes is what i build in the past for fun.
It ignites H easy......


Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 24, 2017, 10:56:55 am
For info.
What happens when the hv hits the anode?
Is it not tranferring emf waves and a lot of electrons to the anode?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 25, 2017, 09:24:21 am
About the 7.5 cps.

Take a look at the patent Herman referenced and see the ac square wave? That part of the waveform produces a discharge at each cycle of the HV ac portion of the waveform.The total square part of that waveform is what is pulsed at 7.5cps.

Here ya go....this is the patent Herman referenced and this is what Herman was talking about.

https://www.google.ch/patents/US4820957

Figure3 is what is required plain and simple.

To be more specific that wave form is wat the primary needs to see.The square part is the resonate or standing wave.Its much like Puharich and Stans waveforms.Its modulated at 7.5 cps.

Took me some minutes to understand that patent bla bla...
Here is what i think is written wrongly.
You see, if the minus of a dc powersource (battery) is hooked up to the engine and also one side of the secondairy coil is hooked up to the engine, you will never be able to create alternating currents.
What happens if the breaker points are closed is that current charges up the primary coil and also the secondairy coil gets a charge because of the changing magnetic field in the core.
When the breaker points disconnect, the primairy coil discharges into the capacitor that is hooked up over the breaker points. What then happens is a short time of resonance between the coil and the capacitor. Series LC resonance.
The patent calls it AC, which is wierd.
The output of the seconairy coil is hooked up to ground on 1 side and the otherside goes to sparkplug.
So, the waveform at the sparkplug should look like an AC waveform, but actually is positive ac wave form looking wave, as the totall wave never gets under zero volts....
Hope you understand. Otherwise just ask.

The first part of the patent is just a frequency converter changing DC into a ac pulse to feed the first transformer.
After the transformer a bridge rectifier changes the AC into pulsed DC....



cheers




Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 25, 2017, 15:29:19 pm
what a day...
It seems that my cell was damaged after all.
The blast made some leaks and cracks.
I just spend hours trying to repair it...

no testing today
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 27, 2017, 12:45:06 pm
Update:

The cell is in working order again.
Working on some options for creating the needed magnetic field in the cell.

Herman stated that he had a positive magnetic field pushing the hydrogen ions really fast to the anode and vica versa the oxygen atoms supposed to pushed from the kathode by use of a negative magnetic field.

As i do not have soo much real laboratium equipment, i started to use my samsung mobile phone as indicator for gauss forces and magnetic field directions.

Well, i still hope that somebody has the full video of the Herman Interview for me....


Cheers
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 29, 2017, 12:59:36 pm
Help!
What does this mean in detail?
"pH 12 KOH deionized of ozonated water"

Anybody?


Steve
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 03, 2017, 17:27:06 pm
Well, it seems that nobody joins in here, except for Kevin and Fabio...

I repaired the cell for a second time, as it was still leaky.
Hope that it is now fine.
In the meanwhile i am playing with the electronics and High Voltage coils.
Today i seen violet colored sparks.......I think those a key.
The following days i will try again sparks, dc pulses, coils and what ever i come up with.

cheers
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 03, 2017, 18:57:01 pm
Where did it crack at ?

What are your goals with the cell?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 03, 2017, 19:47:04 pm
Where did it crack at ?

What are your goals with the cell?

It a tiny crack at the bottum, close by one seal and i didnt use enough liquid gasket on one electrode....
Goals? I want to see, or measure effects of the radiation of emf waves and magneticfields.
I will take gas samples and ignite them in front of cam etc etc
And i have a small genset to operate.....If the gas is trully deuterium, i should not have any problem operating it.
I had the genset running on HHO once. So i can compare.

cheers

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 03, 2017, 19:48:48 pm
More info from the Horvath patents:
Radiation sparkgaps are preferable 0.016 inch wide

More info:
Conventional Gap Settings Racing Plugs 0.016" 0.4mm

Heeeeeeee......that looks similar, is it.....
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 03, 2017, 20:33:03 pm
Where did it crack at ?

What are your goals with the cell?

It a tiny crack at the bottum, close by one seal and i didnt use enough liquid gasket on one electrode....
Goals? I want to see, or measure effects of the radiation of emf waves and magneticfields.
I will take gas samples and ignite them in front of cam etc etc
And i have a small genset to operate.....If the gas is trully deuterium, i should not have any problem operating it.
I had the genset running on HHO once. So i can compare.

cheers

Ten 4 on the genset .....how many HP is it? I'll get a similar engine :)
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 03, 2017, 22:00:28 pm
(I have trouble some times posting)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH

pH is Hydrogen scale

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 04, 2017, 09:54:27 am
Where did it crack at ?

What are your goals with the cell?

It a tiny crack at the bottum, close by one seal and i didnt use enough liquid gasket on one electrode....
Goals? I want to see, or measure effects of the radiation of emf waves and magneticfields.
I will take gas samples and ignite them in front of cam etc etc
And i have a small genset to operate.....If the gas is trully deuterium, i should not have any problem operating it.
I had the genset running on HHO once. So i can compare.

cheers

Ten 4 on the genset .....how many HP is it? I'll get a similar engine :)

its a 800 watt genset..4 stroke

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 04, 2017, 09:57:22 am
(I have trouble some times posting)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH

pH is Hydrogen scale

I know when that happens. For whatever reasons posting an internet link results in a clean post without any text.....

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 06, 2017, 12:32:20 pm
The weekend was full of designing issues.
The Emf sparks high voltage circuit is , lets say, a work in progress. Or re design. Well, at least i didnt got fried.
Some other components went with a bang.. :(
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 06, 2017, 21:30:59 pm
Well, it seems that nobody joins in here, except for Kevin and Fabio...

I repaired the cell for a second time, as it was still leaky.
Hope that it is now fine.
In the meanwhile i am playing with the electronics and High Voltage coils.
Today i seen violet colored sparks.......I think those a key.
The following days i will try again sparks, dc pulses, coils and what ever i come up with.

cheers

The violet colored sparks are likely due to a magnetic interrupter effect.  Otherwise, indicative of helium.  Deuterium would be reddish.

But good work so far; keep at it.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 08, 2017, 13:13:25 pm
Thanks!

Well i will continue.

Here a small video of the newly hv generator sparks.
I am playing a bit with the sparkgap to see what that does.

cheers


Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 09, 2017, 07:16:41 am
Where you able to make any determinations thus far?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 09, 2017, 09:09:47 am
Where you able to make any determinations thus far?

Well, at first, with these car coils, a spark makes a lot of  noise.
Second, driving two coils up to 70kv creates a lot of emf  disruptive signals that kills IC chips in a second, so better go for for other solutions like relais.
The purple spark seems the most stable one.
The hugh white streams the most unstable and noisy are difficult to control. Tbey act like lightning.
Which one will perform the proper required work, i still have to discover yet....


cheers
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 09, 2017, 19:51:10 pm
70Kv @ 11 milliamps was really clear on the interview tape..... Should we not make sure we have exact that or at the very least make sure we aren't going over that being it was also very clear not to go over? I have to believe its not one of those things "close enough" is good enough.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 09, 2017, 20:19:30 pm
The milli amps can be reduced by use of resistance. It means also a slower charge discharge...

Here another video of 3 sparkgaps on my 70kv setup...
2 gaps work a bit nicer.

Horvath used 2 gaps for getting more radiolysys in his cell.


Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 09, 2017, 21:04:07 pm
I think it would help to look at the current as an important role in the process ...kinda like prentend the electron has a voltage and magnetic field, the magnetic field representing a current field ,the orbit representing a voltage field and you want to match them both (analogy)
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 10, 2017, 10:54:59 am
Good work you're doing Steve. Your electrical setup seems to work fine. Is it possible that you can show a hand-drawn circuit diagram? And a video where you show the complete electrical setop  ;-)
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 10, 2017, 18:19:06 pm
Good work you're doing Steve. Your electrical setup seems to work fine. Is it possible that you can show a hand-drawn circuit diagram? And a video where you show the complete electrical setop  ;-)

Welcome to the forum mr. Hermanwfc

Interesting name you choose.
Are you also trying to replicate HA system?

The current electronics and HV unit are still in development. As we talk about HV , i am very much holding back that info untill i am a bit more confinced on how to deal with it myself. Its very dangerous.
As you can read, i once blew up the cell and twice some electronic components.
And i can describe myself not as a beginner....

tell me a bit more about yr project please
Maybe i can give you some tips and hints....

cheers
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 12, 2017, 11:30:06 am
In fact Steve, you have welcomed me once before. I have in a previous thread commented a few times. In a thread created by James Allen 8/2-2006 and that was called "Secret two Herman Anderson's water fuel system ...". I can't find the thread anymore in this forum. What happened with the thread?
I myself have made some research in HA's system when I've had a little time for it. But I have not come that far yet. I will post in this forum when I have something ready.

Cheers
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 12, 2017, 11:50:47 am
In fact Steve, you have welcomed me once before. I have in a previous thread commented a few times. In a thread created by James Allen 8/2-2006 and that was called "Secret two Herman Anderson's water fuel system ...". I can't find the thread anymore in this forum. What happened with the thread?
I myself have made some research in HA's system when I've had a little time for it. But I have not come that far yet. I will post in this forum when I have something ready.

Cheers

Then a warm welcome back, sir.

Are you the person who visit James and advised him to hook up the high voltage to the anode?
And btw, feel free to post any steps between now and ready. We like that and want to learn of each other experiments.

In my case, i learned that fancy polycarbonate casings is not heaven.....
Also my alternative HV steering unit is still not doing what i want...

But i am happy that we have another HA enthousiastic here!

Cheers!
Steve
Title: Sparkplug wire techno history
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 14, 2017, 20:16:08 pm
While spark plug wires may seem to be simple components, there is a reasonable amount of technology that goes into their design. This article will help consumers make informed choices while dispelling some common misconceptions.

    The basic function of a spark plug wire is to conduct spark energy from the ignition source, whether it be a distributor or coil pack, to the spark plugs. The more efficient the wire the more spark energy is transferred to the spark plug.

In The Beginning

    Probably the most efficient transfer of spark energy is made with solid core spark plug wire. This type of wire was extensively  used prior to the 60's before the introduction of car radios as standard equipment. A few modern day exceptions exist such as certain race applications and a few European car manufacturers. The problem with solid core wire is that it emits large amounts of RFI ( radio frequency interference) which affects radios, and onboard electronic systems in cars. When current passes through a wire, a magnetic field is formed. If the current flow is switched on and off rapidly as with an ignition system, RFI is caused by the magnetic field collapse (some refer to it as  EMF which stands for electromotive force). When manufacturers started installing radios in cars, a solution was needed to reduce the RFI. One of the first solutions was to mount resistors on the wire ends to reduce the current flow and consequently reduce the EMF and resultant RFI. The second solution, and the most popular by far, was to make the whole wire a resistor. Thus the age of carbon core wire (sometimes referred to as graphite core) was born. This type of wire needed a whole new type of construction over conventional solid core wire. Carbon core wire's basic construction starts with a non conductive structural member (nylon or Kevlar™) over which carbon fibers are deposited. These carbon fibers are typically blended  with latex or silicone  to form a flexible coating. A layer of EPDM rubber is then deposited over the core as primary insulation. Next a nylon bonding weave is placed over the wire which is followed by a final coating of either EPDM or silicone rubber. When new, this wire performs as designed. Over time however, with heat and vibration the carbon fibers tend to loosen which degrades conduction and eventually requires replacement. For this reason some OEMs (original equipment manufacturers) recommend replacement every 3 years or 60,000 KM. Carbon core wire is quite economical for manufacturers to use while suppressing sufficient RFI. This wire typically has a resistance of 3,000 to 20,000 ohms /ft. depending on the manufacturer.

O.K. So Where Do We Go Now ?

Previously mentioned, RFI is reduced by limiting the current flow in the wire. This reduction of current flow also results in a weaker spark to the plugs. An internal combustion engine operates on the principal of air and fuel burning in a cylinder and the expanding gases driving down the piston. That's right the fuel burns, not explodes as some believe. The hotter the spark in the cylinder the better the air/fuel ignition and better chance at complete combustion. We will come back to this in more detail later on, along with some common misconceptions. Since the hotter the spark the better combustion, an engine's efficiency improves, simple fact.  Carbon core wire is not our most efficient choice here, and solid core wire can't be used on modern vehicles. So where do we go from here ? The newest technology is wire wound construction which can go under many names such as magnetic suppression wire ( mag wire ), spiral core, helical core and so on. Although this type of wire is more costly than carbon core, vehicle manufacturers are using this type of wire more and more in newer vehicles for better efficiency and longer life.

So what is this "mag wire" wire all about ?

Let's begin with the basic construction of the wire, then get into some details that set brands apart from a performance and quality point of view. Mag wire begins with a non-conductive structural member such as nylon or Kevlar™ (just like carbon core wire). Over this member is wound a fine alloy wire in a spiral or helical fashion. The closer the turns are wound, the better the wire's quality and higher the production cost. Over this winding is deposited a choice of coatings, the lowest cost is again carbon in latex while the best and most expensive is ferrite (iron particles) suspended in a latex or silicone type coating. Covering this finished center conductor is either extruded EPDM or silicone rubber (much the same as carbon core wire). This wire's core performs a number of functions. First the spiral wound conductor conducts the spark energy efficiently and second it acts as a "choke" against the RFI. Thirdly it adds greater physical strength to the wire. The tighter the windings, the better the choke performs. The diameter of the center conductor is also of paramount importance, as the greater it's diameter becomes, again the better the choke's performance. The use of carbon latex coating further absorbs some RFI, however ferrite is vastly superior in noise suppression, however more expensive as previously mentioned.

There are many differing constructions of mag wire, some economical brands simply wind a fine wire around an existing carbon core wire center. Another economical method is to loose wind the conductor over a small center diameter to cut production costs. Almost anything goes just to call it mag wire.

To design a true mag wire and have it suppress RFI while transferring virtually unimpeded spark energy is no small task. Some manufacturers advertise very low resistances, which when conducting D.C. current (direct current) is good. However ignition systems also generate A.C. (alternating current) voltages which traverse the outer layer of the conductor and is less affected by resistance. For a mag wire to suppress RFI properly it needs a certain amount of resistance. Along with the afore mentioned spiral wound design and ferrite coating, we get a wire that now has inductive reactance which suppresses RFI. Inductance is a function of the spiral winding and is further enhanced by the ferrite which effectively multiplies it. Without further complexity,  the whole idea is to get a balance between conduction and RFI suppression.

Misconceptions

As touched on before, the hotter the spark the better the combustion. This process can be associated with a better transfer of the spark energy from it's source.  Misconception #1  " Any spark is adequate for combustion since it only needs to explode the fuel " -  not true. Fuel is meant to burn in a cylinder, not explode (fuel only explodes under such cases as pinging or detonation both of which are quite harmful to an engine). A weak spark may start the combustion process but since there is a finite amount of time for the mixture to burn prior to the exhaust valve opening, a better start of the combustion process will aid in a more complete burn. Misconception #2 " Hey, I heard too hot a spark burns holes in pistons ? "  -   NO ! . Improper fuel mixture and/or incorrect ignition timing can cause this, not a strong spark. By assuring a good spark reaches the cylinder, a proper burn of the fuel mixture can take place. Better energy transfer will also increase spark duration which is a function of current flow. The longer the spark is present, the larger the portion of the swirling mixture is ignited which allows more complete combustion. This inevitably gives you the most from the fuel entering the engine. Misconception #3 " If mag wire is so good wouldn't it come as standard factory equipment ? " Manufacturers have to balance performance and features against production costs. Most replaceable parts on a car can be found in a better quality or higher performance aftermarket version. Spark plug wires are no exception. 
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 19, 2017, 05:02:24 am
Are you able to run your cell ?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 19, 2017, 13:40:24 pm
Are you able to run your cell ?

Yes. The cell is very able to run.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 20, 2017, 11:42:03 am
Hi folks,

I had to order (again) some parts for the high voltage setup which will take some days to arrive here. I am not happy with my current setup.
Till then, i will repair the cell leaks...

cheers
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 20, 2017, 13:43:28 pm
Kevin, have you ever seen this video?
I made it some years ago.
You see a magnetic field kicking hydrogen ions...

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 21, 2017, 12:39:54 pm
No I haven't seen it before.There is a purpose of the magnetic field and a reason why you must know how strong it is and you have to understand how strong it has to be.There are a lot of ways you could look at it in terms of explaining why but the point is it does take a certain amount and a certain reason why.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 22, 2017, 12:29:46 pm
Cold cathode (Penning)[edit]
The Penning source is a low gas pressure, cold cathode ion source which utilizes crossed electric and magnetic fields. The ion source anode is at a positive potential, either dc or pulsed, with respect to the source cathode. The ion source voltage is normally between 2 and 7 kilovolts. A magnetic field, oriented parallel to the source axis, is produced by a permanent magnet. A plasma is formed along the axis of the anode which traps electrons which, in turn, ionize gas in the source. The ions are extracted through the exit cathode. Under normal operation, the ion species produced by the Penning source are over 90% molecular ions. This disadvantage is however compensated for by the other advantages of the system.

One of the cathodes is a cup made of soft iron, enclosing most of the discharge space. The bottom of the cup has a hole through which most of the generated ions are ejected by the magnetic field into the acceleration space. The soft iron shields the acceleration space from the magnetic field, to prevent a breakdown.[2]

Ions emerging from the exit cathode are accelerated through the potential difference between the exit cathode and the accelerator electrode. The schematic indicates that the exit cathode is at ground potential and the target is at high (negative) potential. This is the case in many sealed tube neutron generators. However, in cases when it is desired to deliver the maximum flux to a sample, it is desirable to operate the neutron tube with the target grounded and the source floating at high (positive) potential. The accelerator voltage is normally between 80 and 180 kilovolts.

The accelerating electrode has the shape of a long hollow cylinder. The ion beam has a slightly diverging angle (about 0.1 radian). The electrode shape and distance from target can be chosen so the entire target surface is bombarded with ions. Acceleration voltages of up to 200 kV are achievable.

The ions pass through the accelerating electrode and strike the target. When ions strike the target, 2–3 electrons per ion are produced by secondary emission. In order to prevent these secondary electrons from being accelerated back into the ion source, the accelerator electrode is biased negative with respect to the target. This voltage, called the suppressor voltage, must be at least 500 volts and may be as high as a few kilovolts. Loss of suppressor voltage will result in damage, possibly catastrophic, to the neutron tube.

Some neutron tubes incorporate an intermediate electrode, called the focus or extractor electrode, to control the size of the beam spot on the target. The gas pressure in the source is regulated by heating or cooling the gas reservoir element.

Radio frequency (RF)[edit]
Ions can be created by electrons formed in high-frequency electromagnetic field. The discharge is formed in a tube located between electrodes, or inside a coil. Over 90% proportion of atomic ions is achievable.[2]
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 22, 2017, 17:28:55 pm
The purpose of the magnetic field is to cause pression about the proton.... It aligns the spins of the protons(50%) and its when those spins are aligned (you could look at it as a polarization process with voltage in Stans case)they begin to precess.It's when (or just as or before...the process is so fast look at it how ever you need to) they precess are susceptible to other energies.
With water at 25°C the magnetic field required is 1826 gauss wich equates to a precession frequency of 7.6 megahurtz.....you are suppose to be a nuclear physicist to understand the rest so I'm not even attempting to try and explain .
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 23, 2017, 11:16:21 am
Maybe we are on the wrong road, Newguy.

RFI = radio waves = magnetic waves
Ignition cable do ALL send / transmit these type of waves. SO, if Herman says that it took him a while to get the magnetics right, it might be the magnetic waves of the ignitioncoil wires.
Think about frequency and strenght.
As Herman said: 70KV and 11mA.
The rest is amount of wire wrapped around the cell.....

just my 2 cents, as usual.. ;)
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 23, 2017, 11:18:02 am
Of course, there are some types of ignition coil cables in the market.
The ones with massive copper kernels transmitte the most RFI waves.......
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 23, 2017, 11:35:06 am
Maybe we are on the wrong road, Newguy.

RFI = radio waves = magnetic waves
Ignition cable do ALL send / transmit these type of waves. SO, if Herman says that it took him a while to get the magnetics right, it might be the magnetic waves of the ignitioncoil wires.
Think about frequency and strenght.
As Herman said: 70KV and 11mA.
The rest is amount of wire wrapped around the cell.....

just my 2 cents, as usual.. ;)

I didn't hear Herman say it took a while on the magnetics....I heard him say it took " at least 30 "builds to do what he wanted it to do "
I also heard him say you have to get them just right.I don't think Herman used a spark plug wire around his cell.
Brisby didn't use a spark plug wire either when he wrapped an " extension " wire around the inside of his chamber.
I just can't keep trying to explain what my studies and xpieiments tell me....I don't have time for that now .Keep experimenting and record everything,you may find something.
Think about this.....11 miliamps is not going to produce any appreciable magnetic field....it is required ....there are requirements Steve, I guess you just need to find out for yourself.
I'll be making a part for mine soon that should shed some more light on the matter.
I don't mind to share my results from experimenting ,nothing's going to change the way im doing it ✌

I don't know if you understand that the guy at the truck in the interview video is not Herman and he did not wrap a spark plug wire around his chamber.
The deal with clownfish and James discovering something because the pressure gauge went wild was simply them almost blowing the cell apart....fortunately the gas volume wasn't enuff to cause any damage.
Steve I'm not claiming I know how to do this but I can tell you he did not wrap a spark plug wire around his cell for any purpose of the process.... There's simply no sense to be made from that from the interview or any literature at all.
The only sense could come from a spark plug wire being involved is to feed an ozone generator just to containe the HV.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 25, 2017, 14:47:51 pm
And thats why i appreciate you, Kevin. Please keep on doing the things as you think is best.
I will do the same.
And yes. I know that the guy wasnt Herman, talking about wrapping a wire and sparkplug around his cell.
I ll guess that your observation is correct abou the sparkplug wire. With all those inlets/outlets , how could he managed doing that....
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 25, 2017, 14:48:08 pm
More theory:

A moving electron alone actually does not produce a magnetic field. It requires electrons and protons to produce a magnetic field. As the electrons move relative to protons (ions) there is a relativistic charge per unit volume difference between the positive and the negative charges. This causes any external charges to feel a force we know as the magnetic field. The magnetic field is a relativistic correction to the electrostatic field.

Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/why-does-moving-electron-produce-magnetic-field.184619/
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 25, 2017, 15:25:39 pm
I suggest watching and learning things like this
I don't think Herman was kidding when he said you have to be a NUCLEAR physicist and an ELECTRONICS ENGINEER to KEEP it working.


Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 25, 2017, 19:04:31 pm
tube draws 1.3 mA at 110 kV
hollow-anode therapy tube rated 200kV / 20 mA

These are the power consumptions of an soft x ray tube......

http://www.celnav.de/hv/hv5.htm

11mA 70kv said Herman about his radiolysis system.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 25, 2017, 19:37:38 pm
Maybe the shortest route is to buy some of these tubes
http://www.hamamatsu.com/eu/en/community/xndt/prod_X-ray_sources/soft_tubes.html

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 25, 2017, 19:50:58 pm
From the previous document:

We have observed X-ray production with all four types of detectors described in Section 2.3.
There are three arguments for this statement: (a) the radiation was not affected by a strong magnet
placed between the sparking vessel and the detector, indicating that we are indeed dealing with the
X-rays or neutral particles
; (b) the range measurements are very consistent with the X-ray
production; (c) the response from the gaseous detectors strongly indicates soft X-ray production
(pulses are comparable in size and shape to pulses from an Fe55 X-ray source). The X-rays were
monitored at 90o in respect to the spark axis during all tests in this paper.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 25, 2017, 21:35:34 pm
From the previous document:

We have observed X-ray production with all four types of detectors described in Section 2.3.
There are three arguments for this statement: (a) the radiation was not affected by a strong magnet
placed between the sparking vessel and the detector, indicating that we are indeed dealing with the
X-rays or neutral particles
; (b) the range measurements are very consistent with the X-ray
production; (c) the response from the gaseous detectors strongly indicates soft X-ray production
(pulses are comparable in size and shape to pulses from an Fe55 X-ray source). The X-rays were
monitored at 90o in respect to the spark axis during all tests in this paper.

That's comforting.....  At least we now KNOW that I'm not on the wrong track :) The problem is going to be ,keeping it going... New technology is being  developed everyday... I'm very confident :8) but unlike others.... I am not claiming I have it all figured out !
Just as those working with Stans stuff,without an understanding of what it is you are wanting to do will make it nearly impossible to succeed.You MUST understand WHAT and WHY it is you are wanting to do.
Also as with Stans stuff ,simply replicating the cell and electronics without understanding what and why you are trying to do is hopeless.

BTW .... Its the Stanford study you found most relevant to the x rayss.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 01, 2017, 18:04:27 pm
Ok. Another update on the project.
I have attached some pictures that maybe make sense for some of you...
You see here the new arrived high voltage unit, similar to the one of Brisby.
Its a 70kV replacement unit for V8 engines. It sparks great is very robust.
I crank the shaft by hand till i found me a small motor to run it.
Its a fantastic piece.
Still have to work out on how to create the needed radiation in combination with the running current thru the cell.
I have some ideas for the next couple of days.

Other components are a radiation meter and emf meter.
The tube is one of the tubes that can also create x rays.
The idea is to create a hole in the cellwall and lower the quartztube in there. Then i can lower the X ray radiating tube in the quartz tube and see what happen..........
And of course i digged up a role of lead metal. I have no intension to be ionized my self.

cheers
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 06, 2017, 17:59:05 pm
Here some videos.
First one is pulsed dc electrolysis at 7.5hz.
In the other videos i try out the HV on the negative.
The switching in these videos is done on the negative as well.

The clicking is a relais and the electromotor you hear is when the HV is activated.

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 06, 2017, 19:50:23 pm
Kevin, please have a look at this video...

Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 06, 2017, 20:21:00 pm
One thing we could imagine some pressure doing would be allowing more mobility....I'd suggest setting it up to work with at least the 8 ounces of pressure and take notes.
Glad you have your cell up and running....be safe...you should try to work with some pressure and maintaining it.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 07, 2017, 14:01:35 pm
One thing we could imagine some pressure doing would be allowing more mobility....I'd suggest setting it up to work with at least the 8 ounces of pressure and take notes.
Glad you have your cell up and running....be safe...you should try to work with some pressure and maintaining it.


Thanks. Will work on the pressure valve asap.
I got a self regulating one, but that one needs a modification for lower pressure of 8 ounces.
Next days i will improve radiation and take some scope shots etc etc....
At least we see some reaction in the water during HV on..
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 08, 2017, 12:53:27 pm
I added a pressure valve today and the pressure was somewhere between 8 and 16 ounces.
Did the same test runs.
Nothing improved or changed sofar as i could observe.

Cheers
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 08, 2017, 12:54:50 pm
Scope shots are needed...
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project, the pendulum
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 30, 2018, 13:30:16 pm
Was Herman not talking about the fact their was a pendulum build inside his cell?
Could that be an LC pendulum?

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Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 10, 2018, 18:54:15 pm
After replaying videos of Bob Boyce, i want to add the cell pressure that he is advising.
Its max 5 psi of cell pressure.
I remember Herman also saying something like that, if you put it under display or under pressure, you put it out.....whatever he ment with that.
But ill guess Bob was very honest in this statement.
He says that more pressure would kill the resonance of his system with the toroid and his simulated broken alternator setup.....

Well....
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 10, 2018, 19:25:30 pm
Actually you can notice Herman uses a propane regulator,its like 8 ounces of preasure i believe hooked into a kill switch.
I noticed Mr.Boyce now has a toroid on his drive circuit !!! GENIUS!!!!
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 10, 2018, 19:37:27 pm
So, all info is telling us to keep pressure very very very low  ;) ;) ;)
Its good to have more people saying the same things.
Then it might be true
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 11, 2018, 00:59:03 am
But wat you heard Herman say about putting it out was his fog injection...he mentioned others tgat tried it and used a mist that would put it out...the hydrogen burn.He said the fog made it burn perfect.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 11, 2018, 05:10:53 am
Have you ever ask Max Miller or his brother Jim thats a member here,to let you see a copy of the documents and video he has?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 11, 2018, 07:19:09 am
Have you ever ask Max Miller or his brother Jim thats a member here,to let you see a copy of the documents and video he has?

i asked Jim...
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 11, 2018, 07:38:50 am
Have you ever ask Max Miller or his brother Jim thats a member here,to let you see a copy of the documents and video he has?

i asked Jim...

you think they have the full lenght video of the interview?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 14, 2018, 14:37:38 pm
i am back home and want to run some tests again.
My Anderson replica had to be refurbised.
The cell was leaking after internal explosions.
Also the inner diameter had to be smaller.
So, i filled it a bit up with leftover polycabonate...
Now it is drying....

Here a pic for motivation purposes...
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 19, 2018, 18:06:10 pm
Hi folks,

Today, it was a great test day.
The Herman replica ran great on water with KOH. It pulled 25 amps on 14v from my battery.
The new electromagnets produced a good magnetic field. On on the kathode and 1 on the anode.
I tried both polarity's
I tried AC and dc.
Sadly, again, i must say that i could see any change at all.
Anderson said in his interview that hydrogen ions would speed up big time by use of that magfield.
So, i must assume that i see some movement change in the water bath...

Again, no changes at all.....

Any suggestions? All are welcome.

Steve
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 20, 2018, 04:16:38 am
Hey Steve....watch the interview again...Listen to Hermans answer when he is asked " Is the high voktage hidden inside the chamber"
Ill try to figure out how to post just that portion  if u cant find it.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 20, 2018, 09:29:00 am
Hi folks,

Today, it was a great test day.
The Herman replica ran great on water with KOH. It pulled 25 amps on 14v from my battery.
The new electromagnets produced a good magnetic field. On on the kathode and 1 on the anode.
I tried both polarity's
I tried AC and dc.
Sadly, again, i must say that i could see any change at all.
Anderson said in his interview that hydrogen ions would speed up big time by use of that magfield.
So, i must assume that i see some movement change in the water bath...

Again, no changes at all.....

Any suggestions? All are welcome.

Steve

hey steve try to apply the dc thru a pair of chokes and pulse the cell too

25 amps seems a lot.. its a single cell?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 20, 2018, 09:48:51 am
@ newguy, i will view it again.....
Curious what you wanna tell.

@ Fabio, yes. just two plates....
Pulsing dc will give me brownsgas.
You think that will be more receptive to magfields?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 20, 2018, 21:35:53 pm
@ newguy, i will view it again.....
Curious what you wanna tell.

@ Fabio, yes. just two plates....
Pulsing dc will give me brownsgas.
You think that will be more receptive to magfields?
He says it in the first 3 minutes...therz a purpose for the magnetic fields ...the magnetic field isnt wat actually speeds up the process...its a requirement more than anything.
Hermans radiolysis is the same process as Horvath exactly.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 20, 2018, 21:56:47 pm
@ newguy, i will view it again.....
Curious what you wanna tell.

@ Fabio, yes. just two plates....
Pulsing dc will give me brownsgas.
You think that will be more receptive to magfields?
He says it in the first 3 minutes...therz a purpose for the magnetic fields ...the magnetic field isnt wat actually speeds up the process...its a requirement more than anything.
Hermans radiolysis is the same process as Horvath exactly.


i know where he tries to say it, but then that other guy starts to cry and interrupts Herman.
It is all in englisch, which is not my native language.
So i have to deal with it.
He starts talking about the high voltage and uses the soft iron core for getting a positive magnetic field which pushes the ions really fast....
Again....what the f am i doing wrong?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 20, 2018, 22:22:08 pm
Herman is a combination of Horvath, Puharich and Dyer is the best way i can explain it.
You should build Puharich's circuit and get this waveform...Hermans is the same .Once you understand how to produce the resonance you can move further to produce a certain resonance....
After you study Puharich and build the circuit and understand how its produced you can move on to Horvath to understand the certain resonance you want.Horvath teaches us what we want know about the magnetic parts.
After you learn and know that you should study Dyer and learn how to apply it.
Thats as plain and specific as I can be with that.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 21, 2018, 14:10:40 pm
Herman is a combination of Horvath, Puharich and Dyer is the best way i can explain it.
You should build Puharich's circuit and get this waveform...Hermans is the same .Once you understand how to produce the resonance you can move further to produce a certain resonance....
After you study Puharich and build the circuit and understand how its produced you can move on to Horvath to understand the certain resonance you want.Horvath teaches us what we want know about the magnetic parts.
After you learn and know that you should study Dyer and learn how to apply it.
Thats as plain and specific as I can be with that.

Dyer? Who ,s that?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 22, 2018, 19:49:36 pm
C.K.Dyer

You will learn why waveforms are important.
Itsa barrier technology combined with atomic resonance  is a good way to see it in my book.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 23, 2018, 15:57:25 pm
I found a patent which claims that NMR frequencies can produce catalysis without using a physical catalyst.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 23, 2018, 18:19:07 pm
I searched for c.k.dyer but found only electrolysis info on anodes and kathodes...
If you have any docs, then plse publishe here....

As far as atomic resonance concerns, what shall i understand from that?

With NMR, you need a hugh magnetic field, otherwise that hydrogen cannot be detected..
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 28, 2018, 22:53:11 pm
3 inch = 7.62 cm
Thats the space between the 2 electrodes of Andersons cell.
Now the funny part..... He is pulsing at 7.5hz or close to that frequency......could be 7.6hz
What could be the relation here?
Anybody?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 28, 2018, 23:52:46 pm
I think he may have used relays at that frequency ... Im not sure but seems a happy coincidence
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 29, 2018, 06:28:45 am
3 inch = 7.62 cm
Thats the space between the 2 electrodes of Andersons cell.
Now the funny part..... He is pulsing at 7.5hz or close to that frequency......could be 7.6hz
What could be the relation here?
Anybody?
Youre not seeing whats inside those 7.5 cycles.
Thats like me saying i pulse this at 7.5 cycles.
Where this is an inverted sawtooth hermans was a square. It reminds you of Stans gated pulse but instead of it being a forced oscillation....its a natural thing and by natural i mean its a resonate thing.
Here's the funny part...whats inside that 7.5 cycle is a corona frequency that just so happens to match a requirement related to the magnetic field the atoms are entrained in.That magnetic field requirement is directly effected by the potential hydrogen in the chamber.
Theres a reason for that....theres a reason for why a 2 close proximity wont let anything happen....theres a reason for that reason and so on.
Merry Christmas  :)
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 29, 2018, 07:00:16 am
I found a patent which claims that NMR frequencies can produce catalysis without using a physical catalyst.
Water is a delicate compound to say the least.If we place a freshly boiled egg out of the pot into a cool glass of water the water readily absorbs that energy and apparently gives its energy back to the egg .
Wouldnt you say there is energy in a cool glass of water?
Id say putting a hot egg into it is a simple way of feeling that energy.... after all....the egg was once to hot to hold.
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 13, 2020, 13:53:56 pm
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Neutrons repel each other through the nuclear
strong force, as do protons.      Nuclei are held
together by the formation of nucleon spin pairs
and the attraction between neutrons and protons.
Background
Conventional nuclear theory holds that there is a force that involves an attraction between all nucleons (neutrons and protons). This hypothetical force hypothetically drops off with separation distance faster than inverse distance squared and therefore at small separation distances can be stronger than the electrostatic repulsion between protons but at larger separation distances can be weaker. This hypothetical force was given the name nuclear strong force. There is no more evidence for its existence than that nuclei containing multiple protons hold together. This theory leaves out the phenomenon of spin pair formation among nucleons and it is this spin pair formation which dominates nuclear structure. Spin pair formation is exclusive in the sense that one neutron can form a spin pair with one other neutron and with one proton. The same applies to protons. Because of this exclusivity spin pair formation does not involve a field in the way the electrostatic interaction of charged particles does. There is however a force field involving the nonexclusive interaction of nucleons.

This is an extreme important topic and therefore the argument will be laid out in explicit detail but in such a way that the reader can easily skip over the parts that he or she have no questions concerning.

There are no direct measurements of the forces between nucleons but their natures could be deduced from the changes in potential energy which result from changes in the structure of nuclei. If the force between two objects is negative then there is loss of potential energy as a result of that force when two objects come closer together. On the other hand if the force is positive (a repulsion) there is a gain in potential energy as a result of a reduction of the separation distance when the two objects come closer together. See Force for more on this topic.
Total binding energy would include the potential energy lost when the nuclide was formed in addition the binding energy based upon the mass deficit of the nuclide. Only the mass deficit binding energies of nuclides are known. These measured binding energies serve as correlates of the potential energy lost in the formation of nuclei. It is the amount of energy that must be supplied to break up a nucleus into its constituent nucleons. See Binding for more on this topic.
The binding energy of a nuclide is expressed in millions of electron volts (MeV). This is the amount of energy an electron acquires through falling through an electrical potential difference of one million volts.

The incremental binding energy for a neutron in a particular nuclide is the difference between the binding energy of that nuclide and that of a nuclide that has one less neutron.The incremental binding energies (IBE) of nucleons show the effect of the addition of a nucleon. Here is an example.

The odd-even fluctuation in the IBE of a neutron is evidence of the formation of neutron-neutron spin pairs. This is only the data for Krypton (p=36) but all of the data for the nearly three thousand nuclides show the same phenomenon. The evidence for the formation of neutron-proton spin pairs is the sharp drop in the incremental binding of a neutron when the number of neutrons exceeds the number of protons. This is shown above at 36 neutrons.

Likewise the IBE for protons show the formation of proton-proton and neutron-proton spin pairs.

The data on IBE show that neutrons and protons are organized in nuclear shells. When a shell is filled the IBE for the next nucleon drops off sharply. This is shown in the above graph at 50 neutrons.
The conventional values for filled nucleon shells are 2, 8, 20, 28, 50, 82 and 126. The IBE data indicate that 6 and 14 may be filled-shell numbers with 8 and 20 representing filled subshells. A simple algorithm explains the generation of the sequence 2, 6, 14, 28, 50, 82 and 126. Evidence for the existence of nucleonic subshells is given in Subshells. "

Analysis shows that the second differences in binding energies (the increments in the increments) give the magnitudes of the various interactions between nucleons. See Second Differences for that analysis.
To eliminate the distracting influence of the odd-even fluctuation due to spin pair formations the data can be given in terms of nucleon pairs.

The cross differences are roughly constant over the range of a nucleon shell. Therefore the slope of the relationship between the IBE for a neutron pair and the number of proton pairs in the nuclide gives the interaction binding energy between the last neutron pair and the last proton pair added to the nuclide. Here is that relationship for nuclides with 24 neutron pairs.


The upward slope to the right indicates that the interaction force between a neutron pair and a proton pair is an attraction. The near linearity of the relation indicates that the interactions of all the neutron pairs in a shell with a proton pair are almost all the same.

The second differences in binding energy with respect to the number of neutron pairs give the interactive binding energies between the last two nucleon pairs added to the nuclide. This slope is found to be positive for all cases and thus the force between any neutron pair and any proton pair due to the interaction of their nucleonic charges is an attraction.
On the other hand the slope of the relationship between the IBE for a neutron pair and the number of neutron pairs in the nuclide gives the binding energy due to the interaction of the last two neutron pairs to be added to the nuclide. This slope is found to be negative indicating that the force between two neutrons is a repulsion. Here is an example.


The downward slope to the right of the relation indicates that the reactive force between two neutron pairs is a repulsion. The near linearity beyond the 25th neutron pair indicates the constancy of the interaction for all neutron pairs in the shell.
This is just one example, but there is exhaustive demonstration that this true in all cases.

Thus neutrons repel each other but are attracted to protons.

What follows is an introduction to the more complete model of nuclear structure.

The nucleons (protons and neutrons) of a nucleus, whenever possible, form spin pairs (neutron-neutron, proton-proton and neutron-proton). Such spin pair formation is exclusive in the sense that one nucleon can form a spin pair with one other nucleon of the same type and with one nucleon of the opposite type. A nucleon can also have interaction with any number of other nucleons. Conventionally this is called the nuclear strong force . The term strong is inappropriate because that force is not all that strong compared to the forces involved in spin pairing. A more appropriate name for the so-called strong force would be the nucleonic force, the force between nucleons.
A neutron spin pair and a proton spin pair can form an alpha particle whose binding energy is significantly greater than the sum of the binding energies due to the spin pairs within it. More generally the nucleons are linked together in chains containing sequences of the form -n-p-p-n-, or equivalently -p-n-n-p-, which will be called alpha modules. The chains of alpha modules form rings in shells. The lowest shell is just an alpha particle.

The data for the nuclides were tabulated in terms of their numbers of alpha modules and the number of spin pairs outside of the alpha modules. Nuclides may also contain a singleton (unpaired) neutron or proton. These do not involve any contribution to binding energy due to pairing and they are left out of the analysis for now but will be reconsidered later.
The binding energy of a nuclide is also affected by the interaction through the nucleonic force of the nucleons. If n and p are the numbers of neutrons and protons, respectively, the number of interactions of the three types are ½n(n-1), np and ½p(p-1).

The Regressions
The regression of the binding energies of the 2931 nuclides on the numbers of alpha modules and other spin pairs and on the numbers of nucleonic force interactions gives the following.

Regression Results
Variable   Coefficient
(MeV)   t-Ratio
α   42.07905   764.2
nn   13.89456   151.9
pp   14.50004   44.6
np   12.62388   44.1
p(p-1)/2   -0.54606   -87.1
np   0.29681   73.5
n(n-1)/2   -0.20415   -75.6
Const.   -44.40578   -85.9
The coefficient of determination (R²) for this equation is 0.99982 and the standard error of the estimate is 6.7 MeV. The average of the binding energies is 1071.9 MeV so the coefficient of variation for the errors of the regression equation is 0.625 of 1 percent.

The t-ratio for a coefficient is the ratio of its value to its standard deviation. The magnitude of the t-ratio must be two or greater for the coefficient to be statistically significantly different from zero at the 95 percent level of confidence. As can be seen the values of the t-ratios indicate that the likelihood that their values are due solely to chance is infinitesimally small.

All of the coefficients for the spin pairs are positive indicating the associated force is attractive. They are also approximately of the same magnitude, roughly 14 MeV.

The coefficients for the interaction of nucleons through the so-called strong force are especially interesting. The coefficients for the interactions of like nucleons are both negative indicating that the forces between like nucleons are repulsions The coefficient for the interaction of unlike nucleons is positive, indicating that the force between unlike nucleons is an attraction.
The force between like nucleons being a repulsion and being an attraction between unlike nucleons is explained by protons and neutrons having nucleonic charges. The force between two nucleons is proportional to the product of their nucleonic charges. The charges of the neutron and proton differ in sign. Thus if two nucleons are alike the product of their charges is positive and the force is a repulsion; if they are unlike the sign of the product is negative and the force is an attraction.
If the nucleonic charge of a proton is taken to be 1 and that of a neutron is denoted as q then the interaction between two neutrons is proportional to q² whereas that between a neutron and a proton is proportional to q. Thus the ratio of the interaction between neutrons to the interaction of a neutron and proton should be equal to q. The estimates of the interactions in the above table give
q = −0.20415/0.29681 = −0.678658274
Since q is most likely the ratio of small integers this means that q is equal to −2/3.

The interaction between protons is complicated by the effect of the electrostatic repulsion. The interaction between protons is proportional to (1+d) rather than 1. Thus the ratio of the interaction between a neutron and a proton and the interaction between protons is proportional to q/(1+d). From the above table that ratio is −0.54354. The value of d has been estimated in another study to be about 0.2. Thus the value of q is equal to −0.54354*(1.2), which is −0.65, again essentially −2/3.
If the ratio of the interaction of neutrons to the interaction of protons, which should be proportional to q²/(1+d), is used the estimate of |q| is 0.664.

The statistical performance of the regression equation can be improved slightly .by including any singleton neutron and singleton proton (no more than one of each). The improvement is from a coefficient of determination of 0.99982 to 0.99990. It is significantly improved also by taking into account the shells that the nucleon structures are in. The coefficient of determination for a two way classification of shell occupations is 0.9999434. For a three-way classification it is 0.9999492.

Force and Second Differences
In general a force F is related to a potential energy function U by the relation

F = −∇U
That is to say, force is equal to the negative of the gradient of the potential energy function. If the force between two objects is a function of their separation distance s, then

F = −(dU/ds)
If F is negative when two objects are motionless then the separation tends to be reduced; i.e., there is an attraction between the objects. If the objects move closer together there is a loss of potential energy. Likewise if F is positive when two objects are motionless then the separation tends to be increased; i.e., there is a repulsion between the objects. If the objects move closer together there is a gain of potential energy.

   

The black squares indicate there are not any interactions of a nucleon with itself.

The neutron incremental binding energy is the difference in the binding energy of the nuclide with n neutrons and p protons and that of the nuclide with n-1 neutrons and p protons. In the diagrams below the interactions of the nuclide with (n-1) neutrons and p protons are shown in color.

   

The subtraction eliminates all the interactions of the p protons with each other. It also eliminates the interactions of the n-1 neutrons with each other and the n-1 neutrons with the p protons. What are left are the interactions of the n-th neutron with the other n-1 neutrons and the interaction of the n-th neutron with the p-th proton.

 

Now consider the difference of the IBE for n neutrons and p protons and the IBE for n neutrons and p-1 protons. In the diagrams below the interactions for the IBE for the nuclide with (p-1) protons are shown colored.

 

The subtraction eliminates the interactions of the n-th neutron with the other (n-1) neutrons. It also eliminates the interactions of the n-th with the (p-1) protons. What is left is the interaction of the n-th neutron with the p-th proton.


Strict Second Differences
The increase in the incremental binding energies of a neutron pair as a result of an increase in the number of neutron pairs is equal to the interaction of the last neutron pair with the next to last neutron pair, provided these two are in the same neutron shell.

Rationale:
Consider a nuclide with n neutron pairs and p proton pairs. The binding energy of that nuclide represents the net sum of the interaction energies of all n neutron pairs with each other, all p proton pairs with each other and all np interactions of neutron pairs with proton pairs. Below is a schematic depiction of the interactions.

 

The black squares are to indicate that there is no interaction of a neutron pair with itself. The diagram might seem to suggest a double counting of the interactions but that is not the case.

The incremental binding energy of a neutron pair is the difference in the binding energy of the nuclide with n neutron pairs and p proton pairs and that of the nuclide with n-1 neutron pairs and p proton pairs. In the diagrams below the interactions for the nuclide with (n-1) neutron pairs and p proton pairs are colored.

 

That subtraction eliminates all the interactions of the p proton pairs with each other. It also eliminates the interactions of the (n-1) proton pairs with each other and the n-1 neutron pairs with the p proton pairs. What are left are the interactions of the n-th neutron pair with the other (n-1) neutrons and the interaction of the n-th neutron pair with the p proton pairs.

Now consider the difference of the IBE for n neutron pairs and p proton pairs and the IBE for (n-1) neutron pairs and p proton pairs. These are shown as the white squares in the diagrams below. The colored squares are the interactions for the IBE of a neutron pair in a nuclide of (n-1) neutron pairs and p proton pairs.

 

The subtraction of the IBE for (n-1) neutron pairs and p proton pairs from the IBE for n neutron pairs and p proton pairs depends upon the magnitude of the interaction of the (n-1)-th neutron pair with the different neutron pairs compared to the interaction of the n-th neutron pair with those same neutron pairs. Visually this is the subtraction the values in the green squares from the white squares on the same level. When the n-th and the (n-1)-th neutron pairs are in the same shell the magnitudes of the interactions with any proton pair are, to the first order of approximation, equal. This is from the previous analysis concerning cross differences. Thus the interactions with the p proton pairs are entirely eliminated.

It would be expected that the constancy of the magnitude of the interactions of neutron pairs and proton pairs for neutron pairs within the same shell would apply also to interactions of neutron pairs with other neutron pairs. In that case the interactions of the n-th and (n-1)-th neutron pairs with the first (n-2) neutron pairs are also eliminated. All that is left then is the interaction of the n-th neutron pair with the (n-1)-th neutron pair.


However if there is any doubt as the equality of the interaction of the k-th and (k-1)th neutron pair and that of the interaction of the (k-1) and the (k-2)-th neutron pair then it should be noted that the second difference is an upper limit for the interaction of the last two neutron pairs and since the second difference is negative the interaction would be more negative.

For the corresponding analysis for protons see Proton Repulsion.

Conclusion
Incremental binding energy may be used to identify the nature (attraction or repulsion) of the nuclear force between nucleons. Second differences in binding energy identify the binding energies due to the interaction of single nucleons. The slopes of the relationships between the incremental binding energy of neutrons and the number of the neutrons and number of protons establish that the interaction between a neutron and proton is an attraction and that the interaction between two neutrons is a repulsion. All of the relationships that can be derived from the binding energies of 2931 nuclides reveal this fact.

The binding energies resulting from the formation of spin pairs are an order of magnitude greater than those due to interactions through nucleonic force. The structures of nuclei are largely determined by spin pair formation. Such formations are exclusive in the sense that one neutron can pair with one other neutron and one proton. This leads to chains of nucleon composed of sequences of the form -n-p-p-n- or equivalently -p-n-n-p-. These are called alpha modules. These chains of alpha modules close to form rings. These are what hold nuclei together.

The interactions of nucleons can be explained in terms of their having nucleonic charges. The force between nucleons is proportional to the product of their nucleonic charges. The nucleonic charge of a neutron is smaller in magnitude and opposite in sign to that of a proton. This accounts for unlike nucleons being attracted to each other and like ones repelled.

The model leads to a statistical regression equation that explains 99.995 percent of the variation in the binding energies of 2931 nuclides.

There is much left to be done concerning this matter, but the evidence is clear that while the strong force between protons and neutrons is an attraction it is a repulsion between neutrons. This should not be too much of a surprise; it is just another case of like particles repelling each other.

For the full story of what holds a nucleus together see NUCLEUS.

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Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 18, 2020, 08:25:29 am
How far along are ya now?
Still no complete interview video shared i guess?
Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 19, 2020, 10:16:09 am
I was hoping that you would explain a bit more...

And if i would had that whole video, i would hsve shared it with no delays
Title: standings wave system vs electron extraction
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 20, 2020, 23:10:05 pm
What if the electrical system of Anderson, of which Anderson spoke about as a standing wave system is comparible with Meyers EEC?
I explain:
If you send a pulse of electrical power to the wfc, a pulse comes back. I seen this in my tests.
Dave Lawton also descripes it in his eec setup.
So, i say the standing wave system of Anderson is the same as Meyers EEC.

Send a power pulse to the cell, catch the returning pulse in a coil and release that energy together with the next power pulse.
The pulse arriving at the cell should be higher then the power pulse alone.
If you keep on doing this adding, then you see some kind of pendule effect.
A Tesla trick......

Steve


Title: Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 25, 2020, 06:33:08 am
Herman used a Puharch type standing wave system.
He shows the waveform he used in his plug patent referance.Read it carefully.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4820957A/en


It helps to build that circuit and get those waveforms.
Herman said his waveform was inbetween a square box and sawtooth.
Have you read anything about faradaic rectification?

That waveform and process is more kin to stans vic imop only Herman was sparking inside his cell under tge power connection at the center of his circular anodes. (fig.4 ) and realize what Herman said about using 2 much voltage along with other thibgs Herman said.
Herman also said it took 22 amps to produce the hydrogen BUT only 10milliamps to do something else.