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Title: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 03, 2015, 15:15:40 pm
in fisics we are used to compare one sistem we dont fully understand with another that we understand little better...

i would propose you to think about this analogies

capacitor inductor resonates as a spring and mass...

a transformer is like a lever or set of pulleys to transform torque

a diode is like an unidirectional pulley (like that in the bicicle) or could be saw as sometihng that transfer couple torque or force in one direction but uncouple when the force come from other direction,,,

Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 03, 2015, 17:09:03 pm
other analogy could be of a string having a mass connected to a spring...

the string would have an oscilatory behavior of it self... if the spring is too hard its hard to oscilate it..  but if the string and spring match in oscilatory behavior than the system can oscilate completely..
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 30, 2016, 14:49:18 pm
 Another way of looking at it is as it follows... imagine a guitar string connected another string thru a spring (the cell) what makes the springs tensioned is a D.C. Souce so the strings work like  two chokes.... now how you make it sound ? And what happen to the spring holding the tensions ? Well some food for you thoughts...
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 06, 2016, 01:38:23 am
 well today I'm going to share with you I thought that I had thinking about how Mr. Meyer happened to hide The secret behind his whole technology right below our noses. He clearly stated that the electric magnetic field of the coils are capable of restricting the amps....because electrons interact with the electromagnetic field .... he also said that voltage produce work and that voltage is not restricted  any way....
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 06, 2016, 06:02:01 am
I believe what is happening is that when the electromagnet is fully charged Then the voltage will be able to pass in an unrestricted manner while The amps flow is restricted to a minimum because of the attraction and repelling force that the electrons feel when they are about to move in an electromagnetic field. The right hand Rule tell the direction of the force and its signal. When the field is at maximum restriction The transformer core Will be saturated. So the highest is the saturation flux of the core the  higher will be the ability to restrict amps.
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 07, 2016, 04:10:18 am
My crazy theories lead me to something Stan mentioned about using the water as a electron source.

In the following drawing you will hopefully see what I mean.

Basically it's a full wave bridge rectification going into two coupled coils one being L1 and the second being L2 where L1 < L2

The principle here is that if the water is supposed to be the electron source than at the primary having a turn ratio relationship the positive side will suck electrons out  water making the current have a discontinuation in series and this is compensated by the L2 coil that provides a voltage as opposition to that.
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 07, 2016, 07:52:11 am
Maybe we should try using audio transformers as Meyer mention at the New Zealand video... they will have a high bmax saturation flux.
I have a feeling that I'm getting somewhere...
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 07, 2016, 16:30:52 pm
If you use an audio transformer why do they burn up the pulsing circuit so easy? I started out with an audio transformer to create my TSG waveform and succeeded an had to get a circuit designed to produce waveform without the transformer....I never understood why the audio transformer pulled so much current.One side is low resistance and the other side is high resistance.
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 07, 2016, 23:51:05 pm
It may depend on the type of windings... the laminations must be isolated from each other to get minimal heating of the core..  I'm trying to determine if is better toroidal or solenoid kind... the main idea is to understand what polarity is better to use comparing which cause more gas output...
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 09, 2016, 23:55:11 pm
Yo what's up fabio?
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 10, 2016, 01:59:58 am
Hey bro good to see you here I'm ok trying to make a revolution  ;) terribly tired of so much work but saving for the game of life! How you doing? Let me show you some work I done last month

For now I'm working at trying to understand the resonance Meyer talked about relating the circuit to his claims to accomplish the task!

In my mere opinion the resonance Meyer talk about will only happen after the circuit has some current going on the current will create a D.C. Component in the circuit I will show below.

In attachment is a pic of my understanding of the Vic voltage sync-pulse that you also find there so you can compare for yourself.

In stan drawing there is unknown connection to 0v and the cell also strange

I took the magic off and before anyone ask Meyer would answer well you could put a diode there... in my opinion he simply wanted to show that on that point only D.C. Will exist!!!!!

In my analysis the cell will receive a doubled frequency will be able to resonate with water and plus the chokes can use the magnetic flux swing of the core entirely since its receiving ac like while the cell receives only D.C. Step charge as the core gets charged with magnetic field it will loose some inductance thereto modulating it's properties depending on the current.

Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 12, 2016, 19:37:44 pm
My question is,  were we doing a good job not trying different things?

Is Stan's simple schematic the easiest way to find resonance and determine the working parameters? Or is it's a well engineered final product made to work only at very tune condition? What's the chance of the rest of Stan things that were found like the buggy to be faked?

When I did this comparison with mechanic system I could realize that there are many ways to understand the goal of the circuit and how it work by comparison with other system we understand or see better!

What I can tell you is that the when we get a D.C. Current thru water its like stretching a spring and at the same time the current thru the inductor form a magnetic field so this is also a tension but more like a guitar sting tensioned. I will give you a dirty example of what I mean.

If you had some springs and masses spread over your table would they resonate? If you shake the table?

Now if you get this same springs and masses and arrange it vertically wouldn't it resonate a long time since it won't have friction of being over the table?


Another example   

If you try to play a guitar string without it being tensioned it won't sound... the tension or current flow in our system will be the determining factor for the frequency! 
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 13, 2016, 01:07:14 am
My intention sharing this is to mislead all I can from the gospel true that is being preached everywhere..and start to think by themselves because is crazy but we are all alone in the field ..

If you ever imagine why someone would not be able to tell replicate the effect that discovered?  And why not really help somebody capable to help?

My opinion is that we can crack the water and convert 5 gallons of water into gas with a tube 3 inches long

I have many beliefs in my pocket but I have much more ideas and fair judgement...
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 13, 2016, 02:21:56 am


My opinion is that we can crack the water and convert 5 gallons of water into gas with a tube 3 inches long



Anybody could do that. ...the question is....how FAST Can you do it :)

I'm curious how'd your testing with KOH go?
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 13, 2016, 07:08:03 am
I'm not at very high speed but man I'm sure that watts in and watts out being equal is the normal basic function of a transformer it's not exactly impedance match... impedance match is little more complicated than that

In a transformer we need to calculate the load first than discount the voltage drop at secondary than consider the voltage drop at the primary than the turn ratio...  impedance match mean two things

It can mean power use 50%.   Power loss 50%


It can mean you have a load requiring n watts so you have to adjust to the source with a transformer to convert the impedance of the load for consume the needed power from the source

Two different things!   


Let's say we need the load to have 100v the secondary having 100 ohms so as the load this mean that for  having 100 watts at the load we need to input 200w or better 200w must arrive at the secondary

So let's say you started with 10 v  you would need a 10x turn factor disconsidering resistances but considering would be required 20x still disconsidering the primary resistance

If we will need 20amps to make the 200 w the primary will also get resistance so let's assume it were a 10ohm this would mean that only 1 amp would flow and so at the secondary you have really less than you would imagine

To be realistic if the primary had 1 ohm still would it dissipate way too much
Title: Simple transformer design tutorial
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 13, 2016, 10:40:36 am
The procedure is the following:
Determine load power!
Find its resistance and calculate voltage and current requirements
P=V*I

Now

Calculate the voltage drop at the secondary coil resistance due to the current at the load : V drop=I*RL2
Sum this voltage drop with the load voltage and the result is the total voltage output in open circuit case
Calculate the:  Total power at secondary side=I^2*RLoad + I^2*RL2

Now the only two things we don't know yet is the primary current and and transformation factor

To find the primary current you need to solve this equation where 0= -Rin*I^2 + Vin*I - Total Power

For soving it you can use a smartphone calculator app on iPhone called calculator# and easily solve this 2nd degree equation!!! It will give you two results which only one will be correct

Finally find the transformer ratio T=Iin/ILoad

This method I developed in part and in part I learned at university... never see it elsewhere

In the Vic case we are doing the same stuf but only half cycle
Title: Re: Simple transformer design tutorial
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 14, 2016, 10:53:07 am
The procedure is the following:
Determine load power!
Find its resistance and calculate voltage and current requirements
P=V*I

Now

Calculate the voltage drop at the secondary coil resistance due to the current at the load : V drop=I*RL2
Sum this voltage drop with the load voltage and the result is the total voltage output in open circuit case
Calculate the:  Total power at secondary side=I^2*RLoad + I^2*RL2

Now the only two things we don't know yet is the primary current and and transformation factor

The current you need to solve this equation where 0= -Rin*I^2 + Vin*I - Total Power

For soving it you can use a smartphone calculator app on iPhone called calculator# and easily solve this 2nd degree equation!!! It will give you two results which only one will be correct

Finally find the transformer ratio T=Iin/ILoad

This method I developed in part and in part I learned at university... never see it elsewhere

In the Vic case we are doing the same stuf but only half cycle


I understand all this very well.
The DC resistance Ronny is talking about, i figured that out some weeks before,as i took some time to write and calculate every step of the vic.
For me, the question is what the LC resonance function is in the circuit with the 2! chokes.
If it was 1 choke, the vic would be nothing more then a bucking circuit....
Why 2 chokes?
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 14, 2016, 22:16:54 pm
I believe that each choke takes half the wave like i drew,  allowing to accumulate energy in the resonance with the water while the amp inhibitor coil will develop a magnetic field since it receives D.C.

Meyer explain the resonance will accumulate such energy that will exceed the covalent bonding of water

D.C. Current in a coil and ac current in a resonant circuit are two situations where energy get accumulated
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 15, 2016, 00:09:35 am
Has anybody tuned a cell with just air yet and would an air core solve core material issues? I think Ronny is making a lot of sense with the explanations but it would make more sense if all those guys with cells and VICS all ready built that followed Dons specs could confirm the tuning method...Im not doubting it because I truly believe AIR is the secret in some form or another.
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 15, 2016, 07:49:20 am
To be very honest with you I tried many ways of what they are talking about, with air water pure water chemicals, my impression is that no one following Ronnieis going to get anywhere because first of all he do not appear to be interested in making anyone's else cells work, he is only trying to make everyone to make the hard work for him. I highly doubt he ever had a working cell but this is my mere opinion based on his story tells...  people expect that some info will unlock the knowledge without a scientific background, sorry disappoint you but I assume I would not be capable myself of what I'm today without the physics university... so hope for the best but don't waste time waiting others... my 11 cell in Delrin is ready since January of 2014 if I remember well and since than nothing prove that something is happening

Air core is great for resonance is the best Q factor possible for a coil but in case you want to develop magnetic field a piece of iron would amplify it 200 times for the same current and wire length..

Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 15, 2016, 15:14:37 pm
Steve I was wondering about another thing

The Vic is suppose to work in kind if flyback pulse and colapse style

Now how do we make the secondary to have the most power for collapsing

The answer is it need to be shorted during pulse on

Do you agree?
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 15, 2016, 16:29:46 pm
Its for me a bit double. I like Ronny. I like what he wrote and shared sofar. But have we ever seen prove? A small video showing a working setup?


Listen. When you read Meyer documents, he states that choke 1 is for resonance and choke 2 is for resistance.

If i listen to Ronny, he makes more or less the same statement annex tip.
First plain electrolysis till water turns into gas and then resonance should take over and high voltage will turn the monotomic hydrogen into deuterium or at least something bigger then monotomic hydrogen...

For me, it all sounds like Herman Anderson....

Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 16, 2016, 14:21:29 pm
in my view resonance will create a high electric field on the coils and it seem to me that this is one of or the main objective behind achieving resonance...

while the magnetic field created on the amp inhibitor coil will impeed the electrons to flow while allowing the electric fields from the resonance to perform some work although the voltage and current are 90 degrees
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 16, 2016, 17:01:34 pm
in my view resonance will create a high electric field on the coils and it seem to me that this is one of or the main objective behind achieving resonance...

while the magnetic field created on the amp inhibitor coil will impeed the electrons to flow while allowing the electric fields from the resonance to perform some work although the voltage and current are 90 degrees

Are you saying the voltage leads the current ? What does that mean @ 90 degrees?
One common thread with no one ever showing a working cell...no one ever shows or explains the current side.Only that there is very little to no current...the same seems to be true with working cells...very little to no cells working.
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 16, 2016, 17:31:23 pm
at resonance a very big amount of energy get accumulated but is potential form if you discharge it its consumed... at resonance the voltage developed is related by the current by ohms law but with reactance,.. thats why its called reactive energy... its said it cannot be used..

Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 16, 2016, 19:01:21 pm
Matt over there is starting to show some effects with current,you have to log in to see them.

http://open-source-energy.org/?PHPSESSID=n1mvp8pd4074jqs84cf5sbfdo2;topic=2785.725
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 16, 2016, 23:37:44 pm
I didn't see much just a couple of scope shots
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 17, 2016, 03:36:39 am
I didn't see much just a couple of scope shots

yes he's the first ive seen post voltage and current shots, Im looking forward to seeing it at resonance...the current waveform.
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 18, 2016, 01:05:45 am
Today I hope to finally do some tests of my theory if I get some information interesting waveform I will post to explain the way things are being addressed.
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 18, 2016, 11:47:33 am
This is a system approach taking the chokes to work as their definition to choke The AC current  from the DC line

When the high voltage is applied the electrons are momentarily Took away from the atoms at either electrodes turning off the covalent bound because without electrons share there is no bound

The electrons must be returned to the atoms to stabilize and form the gas 
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 18, 2016, 19:59:02 pm
Check the gas production of this guy!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 19, 2016, 01:02:32 am
I did some tests today but um not happy with the cell electrical connection it Keep failing....
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 19, 2016, 02:56:33 am
I did some tests today but um not happy with the cell electrical connection it Keep failing....

same problem you've allways had bro....weld them fu*^%$ on :)
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 19, 2016, 06:54:48 am
The cell is transparente so i could see the arcs...

Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 19, 2016, 16:24:58 pm
I have no electric energy since this morning... I'm trying to figure a way to avoid this arcs without soldering, but I'm out of alternatives and have no soldering equipment for this material until Monday
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 21, 2016, 01:00:10 am
I have no electric energy since this morning... I'm trying to figure a way to avoid this arcs without soldering, but I'm out of alternatives and have no soldering equipment for this material until Monday

Ten 4 .....hope you got energy back now....did u ever fill your cell up with tap water and freeze it nice and hard and fire it up?
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 21, 2016, 03:38:30 am
To be very honest with you I tried many ways of what they are talking about, with air water pure water chemicals, my impression is that no one following Ronnieis going to get anywhere because first of all he do not appear to be interested in making anyone's else cells work, he is only trying to make everyone to make the hard work for him. I highly doubt he ever had a working cell but this is my mere opinion based on his story tells...  people expect that some info will unlock the knowledge without a scientific background, sorry disappoint you but I assume I would not be capable myself of what I'm today without the physics university... so hope for the best but don't waste time waiting others... my 11 cell in Delrin is ready since January of 2014 if I remember well and since than nothing prove that something is happening

Air core is great for resonance is the best Q factor possible for a coil but in case you want to develop magnetic field a piece of iron would amplify it 200 times for the same current and wire length..

Just for your information, I care less if anyone builds anything that I been talking about. They sure are not building anything to take the hard work out of it for me. It's comments like you made in this post that makes me not want to help some people get their cells working. To be honest, It don't bother me at all that people don't believe in anything I say, I'll just keep watching everyone keep making excuses why they can't get it to work. And I've seen a lot of excuses over the years. The VIC is called a Voltage Intensifier CIRCUIT for a reason, It's a electronic CIRCUIT. If you don't understand a CIRCUIT don't blame it on not knowing the scientific background, Lay the blame on yourself for not understanding an electronic CIRCUIT. Sebosfato, if you want to understand how to get a cell to work Study electronic CIRCUITS and keep the science *  out of it until you get the CIRCUIT to work. The only science background to this is an attracting force and a repelling force. The Vic does both of these if you get it right. That's the only science you need to know.
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 21, 2016, 18:36:28 pm
Hi Ronny,

I can understand your frustration and also the one of Sebosfato.
Both of you are soooo long bussy with this project.

You wrote:
The only science background to this is an attracting force and a repelling force. The Vic does both of these if you get it right.

Does this means that during resonance the VIC is doing this, or during the first phase of electrolysis?





Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 21, 2016, 18:40:12 pm
Steve go read my last post on Rwg. Steve your also welcome to copy any post that I posted over there and post on this forum if you feel it would be useful.
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 21, 2016, 20:13:48 pm
Hey Ronnie i agree with You that its a circuit and its all about force! But my point really is i Just need to know that people don't get accommodated and keep working at it the harder they can ... since you claim that know how to make the cell work and produce hydrogen on demand and many people is following you from a long time and none got a working cell... basically I get terrified..  nor you showed the bubbles or the said power of the gas. I offered to you all the help possible I could do and you didn't wanted so the technology could be brought  to the world as soon as possible and still no one have a working cell after years! Don't blame me for don't believing on all your words but I guess it's because I believe in comparison, I exploddd hydrogen in many ways and burned too and I didn't see any result thru your words that would demonstrate any real test of the gas power or volume!

Even you having a cell working still miss a huge step to get it out to the world and make it user friendly for all applications....

I don't know what you are doing to get the tech available for all and this is still one question I have...

may I give you one idea for a test you should try?

Try heating water with your gas and measure the temperature raise over time do a graph eiththe result

I'm real glad you had the time to respond me and in a nicer manner than I write! I just hope for the best for you sorry if I sound disrespectful anyhow my intention is to move not hurt feelings!

Best Regards
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 21, 2016, 22:04:49 pm
I have no electric energy since this morning... I'm trying to figure a way to avoid this arcs without soldering, but I'm out of alternatives and have no soldering equipment for this material until Monday

Ten 4 .....hope you got energy back now....did u ever fill your cell up with tap water and freeze it nice and hard and fire it up?

I never tried that but I already did put ice on the cell years ago to take the water less vibrating no bubble result the water was 0ppm
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 22, 2016, 06:17:52 am
This idea I will was talking about of getting D.C. Over the coil than pulse it came from some teachings an old friend gave to me he basically explained to me that he observed that charges works in pairs and the real question is that more charge will cause more interaction being in current form or in electrostatic form and even gravity force.

There are other forces other than simply Lorentz and electrostatic forces when we deal with this fields and frequency the space time gets bend and allow energy to come into our dimension.
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 22, 2016, 22:38:17 pm
Today I designed a new way to assembly the cell that will be more easy to build and safer from leak and heat at the electrical connectors..  the outer tube will be exposed and simply there is a base and top I will add a drawing, the falty connection will never be a problem again...
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 23, 2016, 04:05:19 am
For me, the question is what the LC resonance function is in the circuit with the 2! chokes.
If it was 1 choke, the vic would be nothing more then a bucking circuit....
Why 2 chokes?

We're dealing with two different types of energy.  The pulses build up a static charge on each electrode.  But the chokes also produce para-magnetic energy.  This energy either attracts or repels the diamagnetic water molecules, depending on which end of the choke is connected to an electrode.  To keep the molecules stationary, both electrodes need to repel the water at the same time the static charges are attracting the component atoms.  With only one choke, one electrode would attract while the other repels.  So we need two chokes, with the repelling end of each connected to its electrode.

Here's a picture showing the para-magnetic energy either going to the water or repelling from the water, depending on the connection:

(https://s20.postimg.org/8gpmeyfal/Plasmoid_to_Water.jpg)

The only science background to this is an attracting force and a repelling force. The Vic does both of these if you get it right. That's the only science you need to know.
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 24, 2016, 02:36:35 am
Hello, tektrical, 

I never heard of paramagnetic energy, what do you mean with that?

Energy is the ability to do work! For example magnetic energy become voltage when current is interrupted in a coil... or when it's forced thru it... the change in magnetic field strength is know to be the cause of the voltage in a coupled coil.

Energy is force multiplied by the distance where also there is a angle component .

Só obviously when the angle is 90 the work is zero!!!

When we press a spring it will increase the force for every distance we press it and we here is the energy it has and how we can view it will pull whatever is in its way if collapsed....

A capacitor is considered a spring because for every charge you put into it it will increase its voltage requiring that to add every charge you need to increase voltage applied too.. so like a spring the greater is the displacement the greater is the back force and so on...

A coil is representation of inertia because current flow will want to keep flowing or to not flow until  there is no more changing magnetic  field to impede the change .

Another kind of comparison we could do is:

imagine one Pearson with its feets on the ground pulling another Pearson that is over a light small car...
Now imagine that they are pulling each other by their hands..  so their arms tension represent the back emf a coil will

Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 24, 2016, 02:47:27 am
Represent the emf applied by the Pearson sitting on the ground and the back emf of the Pearson over the frictionless car

The energy is proportional to speed in this case . Started zero and than depends on the mass and speed... the speed also depends on mass and the initial force

So the inductance is inertia or how current behave at a applied force....speed is current, the force is voltage,

The Pearson siting on ground is like a transformer inserting power in a circuit

Now imagine that the car is on a way up against gravity

Well that mean that the speed at a certain point will become potential gravity force

Although gravity is very linear on our siZe scaled it is the same as voltage or magnetic fields

So at a certain point it will fall down.. at reverse speed...

Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 24, 2016, 09:24:47 am
What makes a magnetic field to make charges to turn in circles if the go perpendicular to it?

What causes the Lorentz force to exist?

Lorentz tells us that when we apply a voltage to a primary it will develop a magnetic field, a loaded secondary coupled in the same magnetic flux lines will develop an opposing magnetic flux while the primary is still effecting it, when the primary current is cut the secondary current now reverses direction to invert its magnetic field and try to maintain the original primary magnetic field direction..

Well?
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 24, 2016, 09:56:10 am
Well what about that votex Meyer talk abou?

What if magnetic field don't exists? And we created it to demonstrate some effects we see that has other actual things going?

For example what if we created this definition only to tell the direction of perpetual electric field or current?

Maybe this is interesting way of viewing things.
..I just found this http://alemanow.narod.ru/ve.htm
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 24, 2016, 19:59:54 pm
Hello, tektrical, 

I never heard of paramagnetic energy, what do you mean with that?

This is a term Tesla used to describe a type of electrical energy which has magnetic properties.  (Ed Leedskalnin called it magneticity, or magnetic current.)  This energy, which consists of EMF + CEMF, has magnetic properties.  It will attract ferromagnetic materials and repels - and is repelled by - diamagnetic materials such as water.
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 25, 2016, 02:47:28 am
For me, the question is what the LC resonance function is in the circuit with the 2! chokes.
If it was 1 choke, the vic would be nothing more then a bucking circuit....
Why 2 chokes?

We're dealing with two different types of energy.  The pulses build up a static charge on each electrode.  But the chokes also produce para-magnetic energy.  This energy either attracts or repels the diamagnetic water molecules, depending on which end of the choke is connected to an electrode.  To keep the molecules stationary, both electrodes need to repel the water at the same time the static charges are attracting the component atoms.  With only one choke, one electrode would attract while the other repels.  So we need two chokes, with the repelling end of each connected to its electrode.

Here's a picture showing the para-magnetic energy either going to the water or repelling from the water, depending on the connection:

(https://s20.postimg.org/8gpmeyfal/Plasmoid_to_Water.jpg)

The only science background to this is an attracting force and a repelling force. The Vic does both of these if you get it right. That's the only science you need to know.

the second picture looks more like the color associated with Bar Gaddas' picture.You can see here going to his November 12th 2014 presentation,its worth a look at all his presentations as each contain bits of information.

http://www.genesys.co/presentations
Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 25, 2016, 03:07:13 am
Thanks for the reference!


Today worked at putting my lathe back together so I can make a new cell for work without bad contacts.
This design is the easiest to assemble and reproduce at extremely low cost. Meyer said the cheapest solution will be able to go to the marketplace... my goal is to make each cell cost less than 30$ And they will be easy to parallel or series connection if required.
 

I also started a gym for getting stronger and the mood up and ready to work better at this ideas. My body was not very healthy being too sedentary to such a degree I was not having much inspiration or energy to do anything.

I already feel betters at the first day! Haha a

I believe that a single cell should be able to convert maybe at least up to one gallon of water per hour and it will be just enough for most cars to run modestly.

Than with gas processor and the hydrogen fracturing process aka impediment of water formation will allow to increase the power of the gas making less gas to be necessary. Maybe just half or one tenth of the only hydrogen power needed.

Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 25, 2016, 05:35:55 am
In attachment a clear drawing with the new design. This is the plan for machining than when it's assembled it will be copied to epoxy resin using a mold made of silicon resin..

Title: Re: mechanical analogies
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 26, 2016, 00:58:00 am
Look how simple and cheap it can be!!