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Horvath => Horvath => Topic started by: sebosfato on July 26, 2015, 14:33:52 pm

Title: Horvath seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 26, 2015, 14:33:52 pm
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US4107008.pdf

In this patent he seem to use a concept that is the concept behind the covalent bound breaking that i found.

in other patents he also describe the hydrogen fracturing process ionizing hydrogen for getting nuclear reations inside ICE and resulting in helium and other products on the exhaust.. 
Title: Re: Horvarth seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 09, 2015, 02:51:26 am
found these last night , born 1929 = 86 years old , if hes still alive.....

http://www.stephenhorvath.com.au/
 
http://www.starscientific.com.au/about-star-scientific/
Title: Re: Horvarth seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 09, 2015, 21:11:04 pm
is he still alive?
Title: Re: Horvarth seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 10, 2015, 04:48:14 am
i have no idea... anyone local could try a contact?
Title: Re: Horvarth seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 10, 2015, 05:33:49 am
If he reported getting fusion, or transmutation, I think that indicates he was using exotic energy.  The same thing with the Papp Motor.  By exotic energy I mean a signal which contains more than one wave form.  At a minimum, this would be two potentials which are at 90 degrees, or 180 degrees.  For instance, when a cap discharges in series with an inductor, the inductor's CEMF is also present.  Unlike a cap discharging in parallel with the inductor.
Title: Re: Horvarth seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 10, 2015, 12:50:48 pm
his patents has a very interesting chronological development curve... where he goes from the electrical polarization process to the hydrogen fracturing..
Title: Re: Horvarth seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 10, 2015, 23:31:05 pm
Ive sent email to see if hes "active or retired" .....  read "alive"     ;)

theres address / map of where the lab is on their site
http://www.starscientific.com.au/contact/

if he is still alive then theres a chance he took the pay off and has lived another day

try dig up some more stuff.....
Title: Re: Horvarth seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 11, 2015, 00:16:30 am
ok didnt have to search too far

1980 article on public show

http://www.couriermail.com.au/archive/news/horvaths-hydrogen-fairlane/story-e6freoro-1111119160884

what appears to be similar carb

https://www.propanecarbs.com/impco/125carburetor.html



Title: Re: Horvarth seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 11, 2015, 10:33:36 am
transmutation is also what Anderson did.
It seems possible to mutate the hydrogen atom into deuterium....


Title: Re: Horvarth seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 11, 2015, 17:35:26 pm
It's also possible to transmute Hydrogen into Helium.


The big glass tube on the right is a vacuum capacitor.  The black coil around the sealed electrode-less H tube is the output winding.

I discussed this with him in the past, on a private list.  Change in the color indicates presence of He.  He said he could get an output voltage from the properly tuned black coil even without any input, as if the fusion was spontaneous.  But he never would divulge the frequency he uses.
Title: Re: Horvarth seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 12, 2015, 00:19:35 am
Nice stuff!

Title: Re: Horvarth seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 24, 2015, 23:02:33 pm
Ok. After really detailed reading, i come to the conclusion that Mr. Anderson and Mr. Horvarth have done EXACTLY the same thing.
Both used the same techno and also used the same hydrogen deuterium gas composition to run their cars.....
Its stunning. Horvarths patent is very very clear in details.
Title: Re: Horvarth seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 24, 2015, 23:35:35 pm
there are difference in the patents... the late ones talks about what you mentioned the ealiers are nicers

check the differences http://www.google.com/patents/US3980053
Title: Re: Horvarth seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 18, 2016, 10:13:46 am
Ok. After really detailed reading, i come to the conclusion that Mr. Anderson and Mr. Horvarth have done EXACTLY the same thing.
Both used the same techno and also used the same hydrogen deuterium gas composition to run their cars.....
Its stunning. Horvarths patent is very very clear in details.

I dont hope that his topic stopped because of no interest....
I have studied this patent more and in fully details.
I have matched it with my knowledge on the Anderson system and also with the Meyer system.

I trully want to wake up everybody in the world to do the same.
This patent is the ONLY patent that states that this detailed descriped machine will run an internal combustion engine...
Consider that.

Your admin
Steve


Title: Re: Horvarth seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 18, 2016, 10:37:48 am
I totally agree with you!

Title: Re: Horvath seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 18, 2016, 10:44:15 am
Please read:

CA 1164583A1

First page state:

Higly energised hydrogen with high content of deuterium!!!!


Same as Anderson was doing.



Title: Re: Horvath seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 18, 2016, 20:51:26 pm
Have you seen his waveforms yet?
Title: Re: Horvath seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 18, 2016, 22:23:20 pm
has anyone had a look at fig 1 circuit diagram of Horvath patent then look at the component list ?
Title: Re: Horvath seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 18, 2016, 22:47:43 pm
Have you seen his waveforms yet?

No. Not seen any waveforms.....

Title: Re: Horvath seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 18, 2016, 22:48:03 pm
has anyone had a look at fig 1 circuit diagram of Horvath patent then look at the component list ?

Tell me.....
Title: Re: Horvath seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 18, 2016, 23:04:58 pm
Have you seen his waveforms yet?

No. Not seen any waveforms.....

I have this circuit on paper with D11 citcled for some reason...it seems like such a huge circuit mayb to much for me
Is it worth noting it states Horvath Systems produced 1.45 lpm?
Title: Re: Horvath seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 19, 2016, 01:48:08 am
if anyones gonna go through the patent , list or diagram (3 different things)
time constant = R1 x C2 ,    2.7k ohm x .1uf  , freq is calculated from that

Ive made push pull transformers before and nothing like that diagram.
R9 is 5watt and R10 is 1 watt , these are for the transistor bases !

Z coil is centre tapped and secondary coil is centre tapped , thing is line 29 and 33 are negative earth , D1 and D2 are reverse , they can only conduct is the centre tap line 31 is negative in comparison to line 33 ... but SCR is connected to line 29 , which is negative also .
SCR anode is connected to the centre tap ?  theres no connection to the positive rail for the SCR

the winding ratio isnt 18:1 , the Tr2 doesnt have a rectifier , cathode 13 is definitely negative earth but that doesnt count as a rectifier

has anyone else looked over the circuit diagram ?

   
Title: Re: Horvath seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 19, 2016, 05:30:56 am
I remember a question about him never answered as well....he says his radiation part later on was at the bottom.... akin to a Bingo Fuel fuel reactor but space much farther apart and only one electrode radisted at a time...is this what his radiating elements were but instead of 36 volts..30,000 volts....some how current i inhibiting?
Title: Re: Horvath seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 20, 2016, 02:47:00 am
The cannadian patent really seem more complete and he talks about his principle of operation...

he indeed say he uses radiolysis in combination with electrolysis telling that radiolysis change the faraday relation between product and charge run thu circuit...

in my opinion the energy radiolysis provide is traped into the resonant cavity until it dissipate so it affect many molecules time after time..
Title: Re: Horvath seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 20, 2016, 09:05:08 am
Torana wrote on overunity.com


The good thing about this patent is that it has a circuit diagram and a parts list.
Anyone who can follow a diagram should be able to see that the circuit is NON FUNCTIONAL.
from left to right = a UJT oscillator/saw tooth , SCR , fullwave centre tap transformer and on the right a push pull resonant primary.

Are the diodes right way around?
Are the 3055 bases connected to the trigger coils?
Is the trans pos or neg centre tap?
Title: Re: Horvath seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 20, 2016, 20:26:40 pm
^^ this doesnt actually answer

Are the diodes right way around?      Q1 no
   
Are the 3055 bases connected to the trigger coils?Q2 no
Is the trans pos or neg centre tap?                               Q3 Im gonna say neither because its a centre tap
the transistors are supposed to switch the other off as each is turned on
Title: Re: Horvath seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 21, 2016, 09:53:57 am
steve i wouldnt realy care about that comment we are bold of knowing that patent circuit needs special treatment to work...

i would split into 3 parts... the oscilator the power supply and the output..

the oscilator is what determine the repetition frequency seems to be related to the fet used..

the powersupply seems a pushpull arrange

and it charges up a capacitor that is dischaged to a pulse transformer but it seems to me there is dc flowing thru it too..

ARe you simulating this?
Title: Re: Horvath seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 22, 2016, 04:25:01 am
he sugests that like in plasma confinement the particles will travel allong the lines of magnetic field

i think thre migh be confusion on component values nomenclature and turns ratios
Title: Re: Horvath seem to have inspired meyer in many ways...
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 23, 2016, 00:43:48 am
steve i wouldnt realy care about that comment we are bold of knowing that patent circuit needs special treatment to work...

i would split into 3 parts... the oscilator the power supply and the output..

the oscilator is what determine the repetition frequency seems to be related to the fet used..

the powersupply seems a pushpull arrange

and it charges up a capacitor that is dischaged to a pulse transformer but it seems to me there is dc flowing thru it too..

ARe you simulating this?

No, but i am now finally start tuning my Meyer setup. See how far i get.
But to run a car, you must for sure followe Horvaths measurements of magnetic fields and field lines and electromagnetic waves aka radiolysis supported electrolysis, creating DEUTERIUM!!!!
People, we need more atomic mass then only hydrogen, to run a car  properly.
But he.....dont listen to me...


cheers