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Title: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 21, 2014, 01:57:31 am
Following the spirit of the electrical pulse generator patent i found that maybe if toroids are arranged in geometric proportions the same principle could be applied with no moving parts

The idea is that toroids contain the field inside it but outside it there might be some kind of electric field... the idea is to cause induction on the output coil but having no reaction of the output coil to the input coils thereto if this coils were arranged in a resonant setup lots of energy could be generated...

The T1,,3,4,are primary coils the T5 is the output coil.. 

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Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 21, 2014, 15:26:17 pm
I'm saying that i used the same principle that i identified in the Electrical Pulse Generator patent from Stan, because the output coil is just the same.

But instead of needing for movement it uses varying magnetic flux of resonant driven circuit.

The main diference is that its not going to be able to generate Dc current...

Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 21, 2014, 22:01:34 pm
what if you can fake the motional emf , em field propagation is finite isnt it?  :P instead of moving the magnet move the em field..
Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 21, 2014, 23:23:21 pm
Thats the spirit...

good idea... do you know how could that be done?
Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 22, 2014, 02:07:20 am
I have so many ideas and no time and energy to make them and see if they work or not...
Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 22, 2014, 07:01:01 am
no but I'm guessing with an LC lattice
Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 22, 2014, 08:52:52 am
share your ideas you can see if they work in theory.
Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 23, 2014, 06:24:04 am
no but I'm guessing with an LC lattice

It would be a cleaver way i guess.

good idea!

I'm sharing a lot this thought..

Your drawing is the same as mine but your drawing shows the falling of magnetic fields when the current in the primaries are in the same direction of the secondary.



Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 23, 2014, 19:41:47 pm
what do you mean?   
Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 24, 2014, 16:38:50 pm
I said your drawing seems like mine but according to the direction of the electric fields should represent the situation where the magnetic field is decreasing... ( when the primary current has the same direction as the secondary current)
Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 24, 2014, 16:41:03 pm
today i got some pieces of wood on the street and im going to try building 3 toroidal coils one inside the other....

I'm going to glue on the wood all the iron laminations i get here to try making it like big toroids...

I'm getting some inspiration from the magnetic wormhole generator by john quincy st clair

somehow that geometry is just the same as the one i thought of.
Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 24, 2014, 18:40:35 pm
in my drawing there are only 4 bent wires and 1 primary coil...

meyer generator surely works with the motional emf no one can doubt that.. but in his drawing he says he moves the primary coils in one pair and the toroid in the other pair.. he shouldn't move the toroid.. only the primary coils... the primary coil field can push the toroid.. but the toroid field can't push the primary coils..

what do you mean one coil inside the other?
Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 24, 2014, 22:50:21 pm
could you as native speaker tell me what the coils arrangement as per meyer description in the patent... i ask because maybe i'm not understanding very well....  it seems to me as i stated that the magnetic field oppose each other but heres no where this written on the patent.
Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 25, 2014, 00:00:10 am
there's no opposition to the movement of the coils... I'm Greek u'r Brazilian we're far from native English speakers..lol
Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 25, 2014, 00:08:31 am
no man i just don't understand fully sometimes...  :D i didn't remember you're greek

Nice to have this connection in this forum... i fell that just few are posting and doing experiments recently

I wish i had more strength to work 48hours a day in the project only but the work steals all my energy... i can still think but i'm always tired hahha and i start many projects and don't finish.. i simply lose interest sometimes. Hopefully now my friends are getting closer and i found a very close friend that is physicist and very good one... i;m going to discuss with him some of the ideas and put  on calculations to see if all this is really possible... i'm recently somehow short of money because i had to reformulate my studio but the year is starting and we'll see whats coming up.

I'm going to try building meyer system just after other 3 ideas i had and want to test to see what happens..

the dc transformer
this toroidals
and the E core generator
it seems to me that this is the way to investigate this em induction fields in a more precise way.

Have a look at quincy patents
Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 25, 2014, 00:25:13 am
in my drawing there are only 4 bent wires and 1 primary coil...

meyer generator surely works with the motional emf no one can doubt that.. but in his drawing he says he moves the primary coils in one pair and the toroid in the other pair.. he shouldn't move the toroid.. only the primary coils... the primary coil field can push the toroid.. but the toroid field can't push the primary coils..

what do you mean one coil inside the other?

Yes the toroid is fixed to the first disc and in turn it sources the power to the second series of electromagnets also spinning in the same disk.... this second series than induce the current in the output toroid which is finally stationary.

Meyer claim no opposite magnetic fields are generated. 

Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 25, 2014, 08:39:52 am
Im wondering if meyer was thinking the same things with us when he was building this buggy of his.. :P  maybe he didnt hide anything after all in the patents... if he followed the same route of equations to derive to his invention we're pretty close. the hydrogen may in fact not be needed it might be the propellant of ions.. in order to create ion movement,,
Title: Re: 5 toroid generator
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 25, 2014, 15:28:41 pm
what if the hooper force ;D overcomes the lorentz force between atoms?