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Title: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 21, 2013, 12:47:50 pm
The coating is the number one true secret to Stanly Meyer's Water Fuel Cell. Because without coating of TiO2 you can not have Electron Entrapment/Extraction. And the best way to apply such a coating is plasma /thermal /flame spray gun. I recently was able to obtain with help from pops such a tool. The reason dad helped were the results seen and the best quote I receive from companies providing this kind of service was $600 for a 12"in x 1'in dia tube. And it would take several weeks. So as I stated before I'm on very limited funds myself and figure I would take advantage of the awesome opportunity to provide reasonable cost services for other experimenters out there while I continue to push forward myself. I also want people to see notice and realize the coating is the secret... If I could scream it on line I would... But for sure everyone here knowing about it should end the bs suppression. Just don't forget about me please I am at poverty level and it would be nice to be able to do more then sit in apt once and awhile. Would be nice to have gas or buy chocolate milk when I want it. You know the dumb stuff alot who have take for granted. Although I don't think I'll be buying gas much longer. I would still like chocolate milk see the world, finish building my Rx-7 T2 of course using water as fuel a lab like Tesla wanted and to be generally comfortable. So if somebody has more resources, better business skills, etc. Just don't leave me hanging like Morgan did Tesla. I'd really like not to go out the same way he did that was wrong and sad. I am going to launch kickstarter asap I just didn't feel right about it til I had more of an explanation to the direction in which I was headed with it. I wanted to put water as fuel but couldn't without being able to crush the doubt as well. So now it will be Stanley Meyer's Water as Fuel Research and Development
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/172591194/2087101639?token=ab8852f5 (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/172591194/2087101639?token=ab8852f5) I'm not great at building web pages making movies or public relations for that matter. I'm more like the quiet one causing all the noise nobody notices behind the curtain. I kinda like it like that although would be nice if people took me serious or doubt me when I do say something. I'm sure everyone here can relate to this last one. So let the good stuff begin and long live Stanley Meyer he was one of the many other great men like Tesla who was done very wrong and made to look crazy or like a crook.. At least when people call me crazy they won't be wrong. I get a check for it... At least it's the good kind of crazy though.... lol..  ;)  I'm up for trades services parts or whatever might  be useful I need all the help I can get. So just message me here or at burnh2o11@yahoo.com.. Right now I can not send emails from any of my accounts including mwrep@aquapulser.com (which is all I got out of releasing the ignition info back in the day that's another story though) but I can receive so leave me a name and number along with whatever other info you might have. I will get back with you asap. Godspeed
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 21, 2013, 17:15:40 pm
Where is this secrete revealed?
Why would Ti02 help?
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 22, 2013, 21:24:31 pm
Well that is interesting.  If Stan's setup is made correctly you just want to unload the current out of the positive choke like he shows. You should be able to pull 8-10 amps worth of current/Electrons thru the positive plate for 1- 2amps going in the negative plate. That means you are getting 8amps of production for 1amp or so going in.


Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 22, 2013, 23:13:31 pm
How about the balance of charge?
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 22, 2013, 23:25:31 pm
Where is this secrete revealed?
Why would Ti02 help?

Pay attention to where this paper talks about metal as electron trap.

Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 23, 2013, 00:06:51 am
Well that is interesting.  If Stan's setup is made correctly you just want to unload the current out of the positive choke like he shows. You should be able to pull 8-10 amps worth of current/Electrons thru the positive plate for 1- 2amps going in the negative plate. That means you are getting 8amps of production for 1amp or so going in.

HK, do you have such a setup running?
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 23, 2013, 03:26:25 am
I still do hope that those ideas are indeed correct, although i'm afraid thats not exactly the thing you think it is.... i mean it seems you'r reading oranges and talking  about apples...
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 23, 2013, 05:05:57 am
Hey guys im accessing thru smart phone been blocked from reaching site this sounds nutz but is happening not sure wat to do about it but if anyone has any ideas call me at 513-260-1470 dunno how much more ill be able to say either without trouble this might b last post sorry yall I tried to pass it out b4 this kind of stuff I noticed got worse which it is.. Thanks for the app though Steve at least I got one more in.... :(
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 23, 2013, 05:12:53 am
They havent cut youtube or facebook yet knock on wood... But I cannot access the mfg of the spray gun either not sure of where else I cant go yet. But seems to be getting more limited everyday.  :'(
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 23, 2013, 09:27:18 am
ok strange stuff did you do sumthin Steve to fix it or did the system just decide to let me back on either way I'm back. I'm having serious issues on my end with every type of electronic device I own...
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 23, 2013, 17:55:37 pm
ok strange stuff did you do sumthin Steve to fix it or did the system just decide to let me back on either way I'm back. I'm having serious issues on my end with every type of electronic device I own...

i am just on holiday... 8)
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 24, 2013, 21:28:23 pm
I am must say that the forum has some automatic maintenance programs running, which run some jobs to clean databases etc.
These jobs come with the forum softeware and not made up by me.
I have opend a threat in the general section of the forum for forum issues.
Please follow the guidelines and i am more then happy to solve issues, where possible.

Steve
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 24, 2013, 23:20:01 pm
Hello fastimports3 ,i'v seen people get resonance with normal stainless T04.How this coating would help?prevent electrons,i understand...but if we canot get the voltage up is no use.I'v seen your video with distiled water.Distiled water itself restricts amps because it has no impurities,and alows some voltage.If this coating can restrict amps,use tap water and rectified wall power and see if it trips a fuse because of the amps.If not then the posibilities are endless...Please explain simple and skematic the purpose of this coating.Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 25, 2013, 07:25:36 am
well since dielectrics decrease voltage maybe a semiconductor will increase voltage.. who knows :-\
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 13, 2020, 00:52:22 am
The coatings in this case are not for the fuel cell itself. They are for the electron extraction circuit of Stanley's. This unit gets placed on the output of the fogging device between the engine and is used for further destabilizing the water molecule. You are NOT trying to create hydrogen and oxygen. You are electrically charging the water molecule to create an isomer or another form of water with a different net electrical charge. The fogger begins or stages this process. To see evidence of this watch the following video. You can see the change in flame from boiling steam to cold fog. Many have debated the cold fog is lowering the flame temp and that is why you see an orange flame instead of blue propane flame. So I did tis experiment to showthere is a difference in flame properties when you subject the flame to the two different methods of produces atomized water vapor.
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 13, 2020, 01:24:44 am
well since dielectrics decrease voltage maybe a semiconductor will increase voltage.. who knows :-\
Geon this is correct and why the ultrasonic devices in the cold fogger behave they way they do. The transducer is an actual semiconductor itself which restricts amp flow, it expands and contracts quickly sending shockwaves which disturb the molecular bond of the water. Stanley's drawings I believe are a mechanical representation of the circuit not the actual circuit. A piezoelectric schematic looks Stan's water fuel cell. And when coating some of the fuel cell parts with various metal oxides and placing them in water I have had the cell respond as if there was a diode in line with the cell as Stan's drawings suggest. I have a pdf from Morgan Electro Ceramics showing similar drawings and wave forms for they same parts used in the fogger devices and comparable to San's original writings for the fuel cell. This has lead me to start working on the light tunnel Stan referred to as the electron extraction circuit. And that is the main focus of this thread. I'm looking to create a device that the fog travels through and using LEDS in the visible spectrum UV and Infrared to assist photocatalyst in trapping some off the electrons flowing passed the neg and pos coated plates which them in their self create an output voltage to be consumed and change the electrical charge on the water thereby destabilizing it into fuel. I will try to locate the Morgan pdf and post it here for yo to see. Maybe it is in the other thread. I'll have to look.
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 29, 2020, 17:50:07 pm
Here is the drawing from Morgan Ceramics in regards to the fuel cell and how it is a mechanical representation drawing not the drawing of how it actually works. There is a coating on the cell that inhibits amp flow while allowing the voltage to go infinite. I am looking to Stan's words to match with his drawings and trying to find common ground. Stan also says that the fuel cell will cause back and forth movement shearing he electrons. And the device will pump water with no moving parts. Ultrasonic devices do all of these things. In my experiments between pulsing fuel cells I noticed a light fog coming out of the bath. It shares the flame properties with the fog coming off the ultrasonic devices. If you watch the fogger videos I posted u can see this.

I'm considering going back and redoing the videos and trying to do a better job at pointing this out. I have been thinking for sometime about putting together some form of nonprofit and create a YouTube weekly show to try and reverse engineer Stanley Meyer's work. The hard part at the moment is I'm back living with my parents and have no where to do this stuff at the moment. So it may take me a minute to get it together.  This is also dependent on what materials or test units I have locked in storage. 
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 30, 2020, 09:53:15 am
I like your dedication!
Hope that you are on something beautifull.
So you have to go thru all your stored stuff to find your needed components.......I know that feeling.

Glad that you are back.

I never read anything about a coating, except in the part were Stan draw a resistance layer in his drawings.
But again, not sure if those are the same...

Cheers!

Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 31, 2020, 05:05:37 am
I never read anything about a coating, except in the part were Stan draw a resistance layer in his drawings.
But again, not sure if those are the same...

Steve this is exactly what I'm talking about this patent has a sandwich drawing of the fuel cell. Stan never reveals what kind of material he is using as if it was a trade secret. These coatings I believe are ceramics like zirconium or titanium dioxide. These coatings when applied to the stainless operate like a semiconductor. The diode check on my meter lets me know the current is only flowing one way,,with a single beep. Or sometimes a long beep like a capacitor. The capacitor beep will go both directions on an uncoated cell. However once the ceramic material is applied the beep will only go one direction like a diode.

On a separate note  have replaced commonly used electrolytes like lye with the very small amounts of titanium dioxide and notice the cell produces gas without heating the water bath on uncoated cells. Cells with coating have no need to use electrolytes at all.
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 06, 2021, 02:16:59 am
Have you considered the coating to be blimp.skin or material the likes of?
I think Steve mentions being able to paint it on a surface in  interview 3 or 4 ..maybe 5 on blogtalk radio with james robey.
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 11, 2021, 07:34:45 am
You haven't disappeared again have ya
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 11, 2021, 09:28:11 am
I'm still around. Still no lab space to work on things yet. However I have been looking at photocatalytic water splitting and found this. Sure looks like what Stan's Electron Extraction Circuit.
Here is a link to the article.
 https://www.azocleantech.com/news.aspx?newsID=25862 (https://www.azocleantech.com/news.aspx?newsID=25862)
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 27, 2021, 16:19:45 pm
this seem to be a solar catalyst ... the hv energy creates free electrons and holes that lower the dielectric barrier...
Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 27, 2021, 22:08:57 pm
Exactly!!! Sebosfato
Can anyone here help me figure out making a  better coating that is higher output?
I have no experience trying to make a semiconductor.

Water fuel cell producing bubbles light irradiation only no electrical input.
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Title: Re: Now offering Electron Extraction coating services
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 27, 2021, 22:18:16 pm
Sorry I suck at html stuff guys. Any help is appreciated in this area.

Steve wrote

I like your dedication!
Hope that you are on something beautifull.
So you have to go thru all your stored stuff to find your needed components.......I know that feeling.

Glad that you are back.

I never read anything about a coating, except in the part were Stan draw a resistance layer in his drawings.
But again, not sure if those are the same...

Cheers!s

Resistive coatings are exactly what I’m talking about. Like ceramic coatings on piezoelectric devices like the fogged. The gas processor has photocatalyst. This is depicted in drawings better then in words. The answer is in the descriptions not the electrical drawings. The drawings are deceiving because you can draw the circuits many ways to represent something that actually looks nothing. Like the actual device it depicts. I believe Stan’s coatings were his trade secrets.