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Title: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 06, 2012, 04:06:18 am
WE NEED YOUR HELP

This is Replications of Stanley Meyers Injection System. It is Believed that the Injector could work is 3 or more possible ways. 1 way is using Gotolocs High Current Output Spark to instantly convert the water droplet into STEAM which will push the piston down. The other way could be using HHO.

IT could use HHO and water mist, we do not know.

ALL OF STANS STUFF HASN"T BEEN SHARED. (((( WE NEED YOUR HELP ))))

The Barbed Fitting on the side of the injector is (QUESTIONED) What sorta part is that? IT looks like its out of a Mopar Hotrod Book!

IS IT A CHECK VALVE? We do not know. We want this to work.

Stan shows a Normal AUTOMOTIVE injector connected to the Aluminim injector much like in my photo.


(I CAN NOT FIND A CHECK VALVE TO SCREW INTO THE SIDE OF MY INJECTOR!!!!) Please Ignore the imporfections in my Aluminum injector due to it being only my second attempt.

Our Main issue here is (((WHAT DOES THAT PORT ON THE SIDE OF THE INJECTOR DO?) Any Why did stan use normal car injectors piped to this man in the middle of the plug itself?
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 06, 2012, 10:48:37 am
Hi Brian,

Cool stuff.

I think you must thinking about a measurement system.
You must be able to improve on what you build, so to speak.
I have similar plans, as you know.
I want to suggest to make pipe with a piston in it, with an pressure switch.
Maybe that way you can see how powerfull your mix will be with the spark/waterdrop/hho mix.

For me, its pretty clear that we need HHO and waterdrops. Simply because we have to simulate petrol, which is also doing a drop to gas expansion.

Steve

Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 06, 2012, 10:50:08 am
I also want to mention that you must NOT mix HHO with water and put that under pressure, before injection it.
Thats too dangerous.
It might explode in yr face.

Steve
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 06, 2012, 19:26:49 pm
The prices of  check valves are high, I am researching  making my own, This could cost about 300 us dollars or more! But then I could sell them. 1 valve would cost me 35 to 100 dollars and it probably wouldn't even work.

I have had problems with the line going to the injector exploding in every bend. I am not sure if its air going around the curve doing this or hho. I am debating what I want to do, money is not there for this.

I will have to make a 3rd injector.

Does anyone have any proof where stan used this to convert water droplets to explosive? I seen on RWGresearch  site where a photo of stans injector said it done just that, But I'm not sure stan wrote that on there someone from the site may have? I'm lost...

There is so much in this system that is hidden from you and i, they are not showing us everything and I know that for a fact!!!!!!




Stan had about 4 injectors that looked exactly like the electronic ones I posted. He put these injectors in a small white box side by side! each injector had an output but I think all 3 shared an Input. The output of each injector was Tubed or Piped to each Injector Extension like you see in my photos.

In one News paper article stan talks about 125 pound pressure. I know the cylinder works at this same pressure, the piston. But I am not sure what stan was talking about?

Anyhow, I will first test Hydrogen injection at high pressure.

I do not know if stan had a electronic pump capable of pusting 125 lb pressure. (THEY NOT SHOWING EVERYTHING) I guarantee you that.

ALSO, (THE WATER SPLITTER.) This could have replaced the Injector, (the electronic one) and may have used the VIC in place of Gotoluc. I Do not know but I am on that mission!!

I hope we all have cars running on water soon. NOBODY seems to be working on this. RWG Research seems a bit dead. This side is also not very active.

Sebo, and Webmug I think is the most active users and they do not understand that the VIC is what could explode the water droplet. I thing stans vic could be much similar to Gotolucs design, or both do the same thing.

I will post a video how to wire a double firing coil on a lawn more very soon. I will show you how the timing doing so will change degree's as the coils do not fire at the same time!>

Later we could use 2 coils in series to get this effect using something similar to gotoluc. We would have 2 pops from the plug not 1. I will post a video.
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 07, 2012, 05:00:46 am
I can see nobody is still not working on this. Here is a video with the engine running on the Injector ALONE with no carborator, or with the CARB intake hole Plugged off with a Razor Blade!@

I have 2 videos, best to watch them both@!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 07, 2012, 06:24:29 am
I hope this works for you all

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBrianCoats?feature=mhee
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 07, 2012, 19:15:17 pm
Great videos, Brain.
Nice setup with the engine and electromotor.

Is yr plug made from alu or steel?

Steve
Title: STAN MEYER ON PHONE MUST HEAR
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2012, 06:08:06 am
Must Hear this conversation!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2012, 06:14:52 am
Please someone make this video Smaller in size and please share it! I dont know how, and I dont have the time.,
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2012, 10:01:25 am
I would like to add this. Those of you that Pulled guns on stan, and those of you that Tried to take his invention away by making it yours, and those of you that is trying to Hide the Injector and make out and controll things into your favor. Well this message is for you....

I am going to shove this injector right up your *  just like stan should have done!

You can show your Papers and hold them high up in the air, but when alls done it'll be like a still mill in a hole in the ground if it comes down to it! You old farts,,,, You will not win in the end, I can Guarentee you that because this technology has moved forward in a way you wished it never would've.

Btw, Dont forget to listen to the Audio file. And 1 small tip to you that really has your ears on,,,, The man on the phone knows his pressure ;) Dont be stupid,,,, You heard him hesitate,,, didn't ya..... Thats where the injector needs sticking,,,, And thats where it will go! And I believe that we will get this working in our lifetime because the truth is,,, This car ran on steam. Thermal Explosive Energy,,, When the water droplet is Applied to a Extremly high pressure and Temperature and the Pressure suddenly dropes off the superheated  Droplet you get GTNT Thermal Explosive Energy Known in the English language as one Hot *  Steam Explosion!!

My Comment on stans death.... Well,,,, There was ALOT of money involved you do not know about, And thats all I have to say about that.... I think certain people will get what they have comming to them in due time!

Someone get me Stephens Meyers Number Please...

For those that dont undestand,,, Even if we do get this to work, they are GOING TO TRY TO TAKE IT FROM US. thats a fact!!!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2012, 11:31:05 am
Here is my first share of this injector. This is a work in progress. It will take some time for all of us to do this. There are Many ways to do this, this is just 1 way! Water is very powerful!. You can argue where the energy is coming from later but for now all that matters is that the energy is there!
Title: Re: STAN MEYER ON PHONE MUST HEAR
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2012, 11:48:38 am
Must Hear this conversation!

That was a great interview, mr. Coats  :)
Sparking tubes?
Electrostatic or HV is the question, i suppose.
I remember you had sparks after running yr cell, Brian.
Maybe you can repeate that?

Steve

Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2012, 11:52:44 am
Here is my first share of this injector. This is a work in progress. It will take some time for all of us to do this. There are Many ways to do this, this is just 1 way! Water is very powerful!. You can argue where the energy is coming from later but for now all that matters is that the energy is there!
So, with this setup of yours, you put steam into the cylinder and no spark is needed in the cylinder anymore?

Steve
Title: Re: STAN MEYER ON PHONE MUST HEAR
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2012, 20:30:26 pm
Must Hear this conversation!

Thanks for sharing!!!

Br,
Webmug
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2012, 20:49:27 pm
I am sorry for the edit of your post, I thought I was replying to you. I did not know I had that privileg, ooooops! I went back and fixed it, thats why it said I edited your post... Sorry.

No, the sparks was along the lines of a miracle. The water took a charge and charged itself passed a point where sparks started jumping like the water drop generator.

Yes, the may is 7X years old, Lucky us we got an interview with him~! With this interview we learned allot. Theres lots of questions I did not get to ask, But I also ask lots of questions.

You have to understand, there is many ways to power a engine on water, there are so many ways to do it it is unreal! Cleary Steve, based on that interview there is either something missing, or Stan was not showing this man something. Perhaps its like washing powders, you dont need any the second time around? I do not know. What I do know is we can do this as a team stan was only 1 person.

You have not layed eyes on stans real life, he had a hard one and he was in it DEEPER than you think he was. There is an article out there somewhere that explaines the court case if you can understand it. I recommend you read it! http://www.globalkast.com/docs/WFC_Public_Notice_To_Inform.zip
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2012, 21:00:24 pm
Here is my first share of this injector. This is a work in progress. It will take some time for all of us to do this. There are Many ways to do this, this is just 1 way! Water is very powerful!. You can argue where the energy is coming from later but for now all that matters is that the energy is there!
So, with this setup of yours, you put steam into the cylinder and no spark is needed in the cylinder anymore?

Steve

There are many ways you can run an engine on water I feel. My Setup is not tested or finished. the question of steam. The best I can answer what is going on inside the plug is like Controlling a Bomb. Yes a Fine spark is needed inside the water which is why the water can not conduct electricity or contain Contaminated water. The Spark that is needed is Much similar to that Vacuum tube In the photo I written about. The Circuit that powers the injector is a very high voltage circuit connected to another high voltage circuit. The first high voltage circuit creates the (vacuum like) ark under water which allows the second high voltage system to send (high current) threw the water where it is then Imediataly shut off when the current flow is detected!.

This is how This system works, and I am a firm believer Stan knew about it.

As I said, When anything working comes out into the open public, They are going to try to take it away from us. There will be a world war between us and our governments and blood will be shed. Thats just my point of view on this.

I am not sure if I was threatened in the past or harassed by an idiot, you cant never tell. Thats one reasone I do not post like I use to post on any forum. Its like putting your going outta town for the month on facebook. (Rob Me Please!)  -- I'm not asking for it, I'm simply giving what I can when I can. Stan clearly was Trying to Blend in to where nobody could see him work. He knew that there was something there to prevent him from his work which is why he worked under a tree if you can understand. A simple add in the paper.
Title: Re: STAN MEYER ON PHONE MUST HEAR
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2012, 21:06:40 pm
Must Hear this conversation!

Thanks for sharing!!!

Br,
Webmug

Thank you for listening, and telling others about what you heard! And don't be under the impression this is how the bug operated. I am still unclear about what Charles seen, what he seen was not normal. You can not put 12 volts on Well water and use ss tubes to do it. Sit back, and think. The popping he heard was coming for the top of the water like a large plate cell would give off.. that's the way I understood charles to tell it anyhow.

Maybe Charles was told never tell everything, maybe he wasn't. This is where we use our own imagination! We have some questions that can not be answered.
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2012, 22:32:39 pm
Based on my understandings, and based on my Past Experience with my fuel cell acidently sparking and Even more based on the Provided Audio tape I have came to this conclusion of thoughts.

Stanley Meyer used ONLY Clean water such as well or rain water, whichever was cleanest! He had the tubes set up with a 12 volt battery and it is documented on video that sparks was seen between the 2 inner and outer tubes visibly by Charles. Charles has no knowledge of this tech and no reason for lying about it.

Stan has somehow replicated the Kelvin water drop generator to cause the water to act upon itself! Just as a spark comes from a kelvin water drop generator there is a spark there between stans 2 tubes!

The conclusion is (This can not be done with 1 tube) and this can not be done with the wrong type of water!

Eye wittnes (ME) was able to (Catch) a tube type fuel cell Poping and arching and sparking just sitting on a shelf only after it was hit from the flash from a camera. Not that the flash had anything to do with the charge I do not know. They fuel cell was moist because 10 min's prior to the popping the container had busted, the cell was not submerged. IT somehow built up its own charge, or became charged to a point where arcs started to produce. There was power around the cell. Whats sad is I cant remember what sorta water I had put in the cell, I do not even know If it contained Baking soda or salt? I NEVER USED LYE it could'v been rain water, I duno cant remember. The water could have been very clean. It makes me angry that I can not remember! I made a video of it while it was popping and put it on youtube. But it got deleted over a year ago. (Maybe someone seen it?) I think I sent stevie some photos of the cell popping as well.


Stanly meyer MAY HAVE known a way to place a certain number of tube cells in a water bath containing an aluminum Container which could have attracted electrons, and he may have used a 12v car battery to cause such a setup to charge upon itself and start to arc between the tubes releasing the hydrogen and oxygen elements. Later on, this could have been done with a Plastic container and Alternator?

I think due to my investigations it will be worth while to go back and re test the tube cell with a Permanent ban on any water that shows contamination issues. Where rain or well water should be the only water used for testing. The setup I think should contain no less than 6 tubes.

It is unclear how the tubes can be charged completely submerged under water to the point where they will ark upon itself, But a witness reported looking down into the tank, (on the recorded audo) and seeing what looked to be Arcs between the tube. He also noted the Poping sound as he seen this arcing.

The water Clearly took on a charge, and clearly, every one of us has overlooked the arrangement of tubes and we have ALL over looked it by using tap water which was a mistake from the beginning.

In the end results, Where there are many ways to run a car on water, None of them appears worthy of contaminated water, not even the injector I posted. The only time Contaminited water or Normal tap water appears to be worthy is with normal electrolysis or where you put LYE in the water to produce a gas. There is nothing abnormal about those setups and they're old.

Clearly, Something has yet again, been overlooked. I suggest and strongly earge  everyone that wants to succeed to stir clear of contaminated water, (IF WHAT THE SAID WITNESSES IS TELLING THE TRUTH) and I believe they are!

This leaves me with this question, (Why Has Nobody Else Stepped Forward.?) Why are they hiding this from us? Too many people seen Stans work, There are still people out there to interview to get to the bottom of this.

Who has called Stephen Meyer, Has question been put to him? if so what does he say? Give me his number I will put ? to him! There is no reason for anyone to hide any of this work.

The water becomes charged, Or does it??? There is something missing, or is it??

This information is for you, I do not think I will be taking any more time testing this type of setup as I've spent 5 years on just this tube cell only to get to the point to write you this letter. Then Again, it may bother me so bad I may test it to its peak until I'm red in the face. I never know what I will be doing, I just do what I feel I am guided into doing by that force that sometimes gets put on me.
Title: Re: STAN MEYER ON PHONE MUST HEAR
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 09, 2012, 00:31:48 am
Must Hear this conversation!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 09, 2012, 03:39:01 am
My circuit was Published on 11/9/08 to power this injector and it works nothing like Gotolucs. Allthough they are similar in a (Small way) they are very much very different. The Date I published this circuit Gotoluc edited his circuit by adding a protection choke to prevent the bridge rectifier from burning out. I was not very pleased with his action on that (Not that his circuit pulled the sorta Current anyways) he didn't need such a choke. All though During the process of designing this circuit It cost me over 1 dozen bridges that I got tired of paying for!!!!!!. This is why I added the choke, I was going poor I had no choice! The Circuit I Published will more than Explode the bridge and it is not based on the capacitive discharge or the ignition coils primary like gotolucs circuit. If any of you remember, I uploaded videos here a few years ago exploding water out of a small medicine bottle. Not sure if stevie is able to go in there and find those or if they got deleted when I got very angry at the way everyone was working together and decided to remove all my work from all websites that I could possibly remove. Its sad, but you get pushed to that point sometimes!

My Circuit is based on the generated electro magnetic generation of 300 volts becoming condensed in a condensor invented by tesla Not to be confused with a capacitor, Its not a Freakin capacitor it doesn't store anything! where the condenser simply adds the 12 volts to the generated 300 volts to give you a 312 volt Primary coil voltage generated from a 12 volt battery, Unlike discharging a capacitor threw an ignition coil which lacks any condensate motion like properties to close any loops all power is lost and the generated Buck Boost conversion action is unseen and unused!

My Publishing was what follows BELOW on 11/09/08 which I can not help the fact thats the date gotoluc edited his circuit.

My Only circuit was a very simple one, it only contained (2 wires.) 4 years ago, This was the circuit that allowed you to connect any 2 wires to a Volkswagon Engine, or Any engine containing (points and Condenser like behavior) and convert water into GTNT, Thermal Explosive energy!

But yet, Both circuits Lacks a 3rd circuit, which is what I think stans VIC was. The Tesla coil simply isn't enough to perform up to the demand needed to arc under rain or well water which is what I think stans vic and the bobbins task where. Stan had replaced the points and condenser with a SLIGHTLY more powerfull system that allowed such an arc under the water. Once this arc under the water is accomplished, you can then add my 2 wire mod to the updated ignition circuit. This will allow you to get Thermal Explosive energy from water.

I have litterly Blown fish aquariums apart using this system, Like I said,,, We dont care where the power is coming from we just care that the power is there!!!

I am not trying to offend anyone, But my work in this ignition circuit should not be confused with gotolucs as they are very different in operation. Allthough, It may be that I have to add my circuit on top of his in the end... Lets hope those bobbins do the trick! If youd stop trying to produce hydrogen with them and start trying to create an ignition system you could boost me further ahead,,, ...

As of this date, 9/8/12 - there is no Ignition circuit on the market that will Spark a none resistive plug under water. IF you build a Ignition Coil that can Spark a Plug beneth the water (and it can be retrofitted to any current engine) then we can add my circuit to that! We can then use the above Gas gun I posted, In case you do not follow.

Our first goal hear is to build a hydrogen gas gun, and you are looking at the pictures of it right now. Here is a schematic I have not touched since the date shown on it!!!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 09, 2012, 22:19:57 pm
Thanks for sharing, Brain.

I have my pump and solenoids in the house.
Now i have to get me some more components, before i can setup a test setup...

Steve
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 10, 2012, 23:11:20 pm
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Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 11, 2012, 10:18:18 am
I am not stating any facts here today, I am only sharing what I have drifted into. In the research of many years of Meyers work and also other areas such as electronics and the mechanical side I feel I have come about a suggestion to myself that you may or maynot want to hear come. There is no proof or reason for the following other than I do not want to Keep my earges hostage that I plan to Approach very soon!!

I have learned allot and seen allot, I have a strong vibe that SS was the metal to the solution to solve this energy problem, But also In search of missing components in stans work he never stated what was not included into the fuel cell he only stated what was. There is nothing wrong with Holding back a key component to prevent others from taking something from you.

Again I do not want to hold anything hostage, Or Make any claim whatsoever on the following!!!

Based on my research the Key Ingredient for production of HHO was Lye, Caustic Soda known as Sodium or Potassium Hydroxide! All though we was told Clean water was used and nothing was ever put in the water, That I have came to believe! Also, if you would have put LYE in any form in the water with Aluminum you would have created a Bomb! There has been children Die from mixing Foil and lye in glass jars and trying to throw it before Ignition with failure! Such mistakes have left glass embedded into the human body, There has been deaths by doing just that! Here in my state I've heard of deaths from it as well!!!!! Do not mix these 2 ingrediants together!

Behalf of Not using an Additive in the water theres no need to anyhow! Electrolysis of NaCi (Table Salt) from 2 SS electrodes Produce Lye! 

We know that even the cleanest water will contain (some trace) of Naci! Even if its a considerably small trace!

Once you Use 2 different electrodes (IN THE CORRECT POLARITY) it is like creating a (DIODE) and a Diode is Doped! We also can Create electricity from the sun.

In Mixing 1 SS electrode with 1 Aluminum Electrode we may just be able to create some form of Caustic Soda from the electrolysis process as a by product that is Usually left on the inner electrode as a WHITE FILM. Allthough!!!! Replacing the Inner electrode with an Aluminum electrode will not only create a (Diode Effect) it Could also cause an Infinite charge and even maybe sparks! With this out of the way, The Aluminum electrode can not store the Lye on its electrode it can only become consumed and after some time the electrode will need replacing.

I strongly feel the key component left out was the center electrode Identity. I know this will bring on an argument. But keep in mind, Even if both SS electrodes was used, You can also get effects by using an ALUMINUM TANK! There is much for you to consider here!

Also, The Mixture was indeed Thinned with 78% Nitrogen (Ambient Air) and (Steam) threw the Fuel gas processer which also was piped to the Exhaust Cooler Clearly Labeled in the Full Document.

Please Do Share my information.

(The Injector)
And a little note for the Beginners... The Reasoning for the SparkPlug fireing at its Tip, Well,,,, Sometimes the hydrogen going Go UP toward the Moon when the Compression stroke is sucking the HHO In! So when the Plug fires when at the top like in my photos its hitting an empty spot! This was PREVENTED by puting the Spark at the Acceptors Tip! Once the piston sucked the Gas into the cylinder head in my design, The Plug was too far away. You have to Inject (on top of the spark) not under it! thats a fact! Keep this in mind if you plan to design a plug for yourself!!!

Thats why stans electrode in his sparkplug was so long!!! He knew this!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 11, 2012, 13:58:58 pm
Brian. Remember the third wire discussion? Maybe thats the alu container!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 11, 2012, 20:31:34 pm
2 eyes are always better than 1!!!! Thats why I have been posting more. Maybe If I cant tap it someone else can!

Stan feared 1 electrode would burn out, I've herd that from stephen meyer and also Charles! Now I'm almost sure why! Now I may understand sparking under the well water with this type of setup. I need to retest WELL water and Inner aluminum electrode.

It may have been possible for high gas production with the lye and aluminum reaction accuring naturelike inside the cell without adding any additive!

People do not realize that electrolysis of table salt is how lye is made! Another is wood ash! There will be some form of LYE in everyones cell, thats what that white haze is on the inner electrode. But, you not can have this  buildup on aluminum it will Detonate! (its like controlling a bomb.)

Stan did say he used the water for an electron source, he may have used it for a wire!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 11, 2012, 20:55:37 pm
I was reasearching more and came across this, which I posted beceause its worded to be true, He could word it better than I so he gets the credit for the explanation !

(This is also why the fuel cell has to be Cleaned while its in use threw Filters!) You need to filter out all you can so that he electrode will last as song as possible!

I'm almost certain this was the elctrode stan was worried about having to be replaced later on!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 11, 2012, 20:59:43 pm
This would Not be Normal electrolysis if the Well water allowed a charge, This theory needs testing. It may be possible to have HV arcs between these electrodes.
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 11, 2012, 22:16:25 pm
At least, your theory explains the inner massive rod.
I always wondered why the inner tube is a rod and not a tube, like he used to use...

Aluminium and Ly is used for ages. It creates lots of hydrogen, but at the end, the alu is gone.
So, not a real proper system for the long term, is it.

Steve
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 11, 2012, 22:29:33 pm
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 12, 2012, 00:22:29 am
We always knew stan had a fear of having to replace the tubes after sometime, his brother even confirmed this if you remember on the talk radio about 5 years ago. I have 1 50 gallon drum full of aluminum cans that I can melt down to make fuel cells with. If the system did work, I have enough cans to use a fuel cell for a very long time with my cans alone..

If you do not consume aluminum then you consume LYE. Accept with alluminum (it is not normal electrolysis) when used with SS because of the Diode effect and (the sparking between the 2 ss and alum tubes). You see we're using like distilled water and HIGH VOLTAGE at little amps Supposedly ?

I am unable to test the SS electrode with an Aluminum Electrode with (Clean) water at this time :( the setup could take on a charge and start arcing. (thats not normal electrolysis is it). Many voltages should be tested upon this cell. Stan started out with a 12 volt battery!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 12, 2012, 03:32:12 am
Brian it can indeed work, but you will end up with lots of aluminum oxide, so its not practical. Stan said his voltage zones should duration be 10thousand years.. .

If you use it as the negative electrode and there is no electrolyte it could be useful i'm not sure but i think aluminum is attacked by acids and bases too.

As i explained in the other thread it will desorbs ions to achieve electrostatic equilibrium thus it is indeed a cell as free electrons will build up in the aluminum in contact with the water. but this is due to faradaic reactions, chemical interaction not physical.. . stan clearly stated no chemical interaction occur, i about ionizing and deionizing or stabilizing...

just some thoughts

I would like to point you to the right direction, although i don't know what it is... yet i'm almost sure what isn't.. I believe that the injector is a step further, not an initial step... I mean of course you will learn some working at it, however it requires more than good will to make things work.. I don't want to discourage you anyhow, but would like to ask you if you really think you can put it to work, before a resonant cavity cell? 

I mean i know you work at this for a long time... me too but for me i could only get to design something if i at least have some confirmation of my parameters effects by previous experiments... I tried the other way... well i spent over many many thousand euros in that approach, and although i spent now yet more in my new perspectives, since i decided to study some more, i found that i learned much more and got much closer than before-

Regards

sebos
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 12, 2012, 23:41:29 pm
@ Stevie

Stevie, I have only digital Multimetrs and no analogue one so I am unable to test that way. I have measured the voltage going to the mini cell I created with the SS - electrode and Aluminum + Electrode. The results given to me was with water used from an airconditioner. I collect about 1.5 gallons an hour this way. Allthough I will test Distilled water A.S.A.P

The Results;

The results was I thought my digital Multimeter was Malfunctioning. Last night I made a post but deleted it in confusion. The very first time I connected the cell togeter I turned the variac Wide open. There was a Pop and Lightening bolt and the contaner Blown up! After the post I found out that the breaker tripped. Later I thought that maybe there where some sorta Dabree between the two tubes that caused this, I Still do not know.

But for Todays test, My meter in parallel with the mini tube cell Displays the amount of voltage I have across the cell. I put across the cell 50 volts of DC and the Bubbles are good. The water is clean. I remove the power from the cell and the meter reads in the milivolt range! You wait about 3 seconds and then you get a reading of over 150 volts! I test again and again, each time I get the same effect! I turn the cell off and it again reads Milivolts, I wait more and then the votlage shoots to almost 200volts Dc.

I try another Digital meter with exactly the same effect. The voltage of this cell is taking a charge after the power has been switched off!

I only have 120v available at this moment. I am going to pick up some new water in town Tonight I hope. I plan to drag out some high voltage coils and do some more testing!

Just so you know...

@ Sebo, I havent had time ti read your post fully and make a reply.
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 13, 2012, 00:23:25 am
Hi Brian,

What an new Insides
So you measure high voltages around 200volts after shutting down power?
If thats the case, the circuit of Stan with the light bulb makes sense.
He extracts the freed electrons during the power off part of the squarewave pulses.
Do you remember the electron extraction circuit, desIgned by Claudio?
You probably still have his emailadress or just pm thru this website.
I still have his circuitboard! Also his schematic.
I expect that if you extract that charge that you measure, something better will happens, accoording to Stans legacy.....


Steve, previous known as stevie also known as stevie1001
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 13, 2012, 01:50:44 am
Yes, when you shut the power off you get a Milivolt reading, After a few seconds lapse the reading then jumps up to over 150 volts for me. I am using a variac only 120 volts.

Right now I am constructing an HV circuit to test with. The voltage is comming from somwhere, strange!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 13, 2012, 02:42:53 am
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I believe I have steped charged the water molecule.  The voltage on the meter on the ON posistion keeps rising and has not stopped. As of right now I suggest you test this for yourself!

So far I am producing hydrogen at this moment at 12.3 MHz at 6 volts and still rising to no stop. The meter now reads 7.17 volts and still rising, the voltage has now droped to 7.10 to the cell, and the current is .012 MA or 12 milliamps.

When the voltage is shut off the voltage reading now goes to . . . .170 volts Dc

This setup needs further investigating.

I do not understand this voltage, I put the leads to the fuel cell in my mouth and the meter connected I still get the readings But I do not feel anything. How does a digigal Meter read these voltages?
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 13, 2012, 03:35:29 am
STRAIGHT DC HIGH VOLTAGE
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SAME WAY MEYER Started out!!! BUT I DIDNT USE 12 volts only 18.
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 13, 2012, 04:48:23 am
Wow thats cool...

I will think about it...

I would seem that its working like a fuel cell but what about the not reversal in voltage?

The alluminum is connected to the negative Brian?

Regards
Title: SELF SUSTAINING UNIT WITH NO POWER
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 13, 2012, 07:29:31 am
A Self Sustaining Unit Producing hydrogen with no power applied for over 1 hour with the power switched off!

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Have a Peek.
Title: LOOK NO FURTHER!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 13, 2012, 07:53:39 am
Here is other angles and Better Quality of self running unit.
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Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 13, 2012, 08:06:32 am
Aluminum in the self sustaining unit is used as the negative electrode. So whats the dangers in that? Honestly, someone speak up?

I am also researching what is going on here, I am a bit lost, what is reacting to the aluminum and what is happening, the water is not changing in color and I dont see the aluminum consumed. It all looks clean.

I think the Aluminum is attracting the Positive Hydrogen atom and Repelling the oxygen! I think No Oxidation is accuring on the aluminum this way.. I also think you do not need electricity once the cell is up and running.

You cant argue with these results, you just can not do it!

Edit in ;
There is salt or something Building up on the bottom, it is very clean looking, I do not know what it is but its comming on fast. Stan talked about having to clean it out? I cant explain the color I think it sorta looks like sugar thats dissolved

Edit In Again The Top of the water Looks like 2 types of water, you can seen the Seperation line, so Now we have a different water on top of water??? and something on the bottom, something is going on here. The water looks different but still clean and clear but maybe hard?

I have never seen anything like this before in my life!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 13, 2012, 08:47:16 am
That might be aluminum oxide... isn't?

Once you apply negative voltage to the aluminum, the protective oxide layer is rapidly destroyed forming Aluminum oxide and water... Is natural than that as it reoxidizes it will generate more hydrogen for a while after disconnecting it... no abnormality.

I dig many tests on that 3 years ago.. i used zinc, magnesium, iron, copper, aluminum... all corroded... So i studied about this passivation of the electrode to some extent...

What is getting me interested is this peak when you disconnect it...
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 13, 2012, 09:33:10 am
I seen no signs of abuse on the aluminum electrode... There is no oxygen going to the aluminum electrode only hydrogen! The oxygen goes to the positive SS electrode sebo... For this I think it can not be Aluminum Oxide...  I bet the Aluminum never gives way based on what I see, not even any pitting and I ran it pretty hard...
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 13, 2012, 10:21:13 am
I seen no signs of abuse on the aluminum electrode... There is no oxygen going to the aluminum electrode only hydrogen! The oxygen goes to the positive SS electrode sebo... For this I think it can not be Aluminum Oxide...  I bet the Aluminum never gives way based on what I see, not even any pitting and I ran it pretty hard...

Brian is exactly the hydrogen being generated at the aluminum electrode that is the problem... i mean at first when you connect the battery to the cell, the aluminum oxide barrier is reduced, is taken off by the hydrogen forming water and leaving the aluminum bare, active metal... so when you disconnect the battery the aluminum reoxidizes generating hydrogen...

some of the aluminum oxide is not able to become bare aluminum again so it simply drops down into the solution...

4 years ago i though this was the answer... until i notice those things...

This is like electro-cleaning degreasing..  of surfaces to clean and activate before electrochemical deposition...
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 13, 2012, 11:17:41 am
I think i found an explanation for the high voltage you read...

Lets put it in another way.. if you put an aluminum piece and a stainless steel metals in water you have an electrochemical device... a cell... there will be an equilibrium voltage... now if you think about it... the high voltage appears since the cell was already charged in your case with 19v and than when the source is disconnected all the aluminum surface will get oxidized in few nano seconds, this mean that an excess of negative charge will be generated at the cell... but as the cell is charged, it must sums...  all amps in small time... so a high voltage is developed but it drops because there is no electrostatic equilibrium and this excess charge ends up in water... so when all the aluminum is oxidized you should remain with the milivolts rated for aluminum emf... 

Remember the aluminum positive ions want to get into the solution what prevents it from doing so is the electrostatic equilibrium... the more negative is the electrode the higher the attraction between its constituent parts...


ideed really interesting... I was thinking about it this week to block faradaic current as it should be a polarized electrode... but was thinking about magnesium metal... also iron should do the same... but the emf of the mg is greater than both..

Did you tried to short the wires right after disconnecting them?

Great finding! Thank Brian

Regards

Ps

There is another fact that i found in a book of electrochemistry saying that electrolytic cells has a kind of a back emf associated... is not BEMF strict sense but an analogous effect... i believe its highly related!

sebosfato
Title: Re: SELF SUSTAINING UNIT WITH NO POWER
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 13, 2012, 13:17:39 pm
A Self Sustaining Unit Producing hydrogen with no power applied for over 1 hour with the power switched off!

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Have a Peek.

I have also experienced this phenomena with my SS tubes.  In fact there is a video on my YouTube channel titled residual voltrolysis where I am showing it.

TS
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 13, 2012, 13:20:26 pm
I think i found an explanation for the high voltage you read...

Lets put it in another way.. if you put an aluminum piece and a stainless steel metals in water you have an electrochemical device... a cell... there will be an equilibrium voltage... now if you think about it... the high voltage appears since the cell was already charged in your case with 19v and than when the source is disconnected all the aluminum surface will get oxidized in few nano seconds, this mean that an excess of negative charge will be generated at the cell... but as the cell is charged, it must sums...  all amps in small time... so a high voltage is developed but it drops because there is no electrostatic equilibrium and this excess charge ends up in water... so when all the aluminum is oxidized you should remain with the milivolts rated for aluminum emf... 

Remember the aluminum positive ions want to get into the solution what prevents it from doing so is the electrostatic equilibrium... the more negative is the electrode the higher the attraction between its constituent parts...


ideed really interesting... I was thinking about it this week to block faradaic current as it should be a polarized electrode... but was thinking about magnesium metal... also iron should do the same... but the emf of the mg is greater than both..

Did you tried to short the wires right after disconnecting them?

Great finding! Thank Brian

Regards

Ps

There is another fact that i found in a book of electrochemistry saying that electrolytic cells has a kind of a back emf associated... is not BEMF strict sense but an analogous effect... i believe its highly related!

sebosfato

Agreed. Was exactly my conclusion.

TS
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 16, 2012, 11:16:13 am
Dear Brian,

Mr. Daniel Dingle once showed an hydrogencell, which he used in his watercar, who created electricity.
This might be the same as what you did with the alu and ss electrodes.
He might have even used some kind of joulthief circuit to finetune things.
Please have a look...

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Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 16, 2012, 19:36:52 pm
I think is about the same process fast freddy was doing in his demo... He says that when the threshold current is achieved you can reduce it to a minimum... He called it fusion point... probably he believe that somehow the hydrogen become kind of permanently attached to the electrodes... don't know.

I believe he could be using what i called half wave resonant cell, do you remember that idea steve? after it absorb some energy, simply disconnect the battery... i'm going to try it soon..

In regard to a fuel cell operation, it develops only 1,1 volts per cell or so, its less under load... the hydrogen is then the source of the electrons in the case of a fuel cell. It become ionized by platinum and its electrons are free to flow thru the circuit, if the ion is at the triple phase reaction junction... Thats is where the ion meets the electrolyte, a conductive surface and the catalytic material...

Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 18, 2012, 01:33:10 am
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Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 18, 2012, 01:58:25 am
It is a Proven Fact that when you run an engine on such a sparkplug like the one shown in my videos that the Explosive Behavior of the plug as the capacitor is discharged threw it causes the Mixture of gas, whatever that may be to burn at a slower rate down to a point to where if the voltage on the plug is Maximized to a peak then the gas will not combust! This could be due to the explosion taking all of the ambient air from the mixture before combustion.

It has been tested and it has been found that by Raising the Current flow at the sparkplug it lowers the combustion to the point that if you allow maximum current to flow threw the plug then there will be 0 combustion!

Hydrogen as a fuel can be slowed down to the rate of gasoline using this method! If you want to go faster you simply Decrese the firing Current threw the plug and if you want to slow down you simply increase the current going threw the plug! This is what lab test has shown!

Hydrogen as a fuel can be altered at the plug this way, we are now able to slow the burn rate down to that of gasoline!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 18, 2012, 03:06:38 am
Video of test
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Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 18, 2012, 08:47:43 am
It is a Proven Fact that when you run an engine on such a sparkplug like the one shown in my videos that the Explosive Behavior of the plug as the capacitor is discharged threw it causes the Mixture of gas, whatever that may be to burn at a slower rate down to a point to where if the voltage on the plug is Maximized to a peak then the gas will not combust! This could be due to the explosion taking all of the ambient air from the mixture before combustion.

It has been tested and it has been found that by Raising the Current flow at the sparkplug it lowers the combustion to the point that if you allow maximum current to flow threw the plug then there will be 0 combustion!

Hydrogen as a fuel can be slowed down to the rate of gasoline using this method! If you want to go faster you simply Decrese the firing Current threw the plug and if you want to slow down you simply increase the current going threw the plug! This is what lab test has shown!

Hydrogen as a fuel can be altered at the plug this way, we are now able to slow the burn rate down to that of gasoline!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thanks Brian.
Never my toughts had been in that direction.
I tink you have a good case here.
Its absolute one thing to keep in mind  :)

Steve
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 19, 2012, 05:20:16 am
Photos
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 20, 2012, 08:31:17 am
Stevie, I am about to throw 2 videos yourway Using Youtube ;) Remember when I thought I altered the Burn rate of hydrgoen down to that of Propane, Then I told you I failed because I had found out I had oil dabree in my cooler, Well guess what.... I was wrong! I did do it!!!!!! Stay Tuned!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 20, 2012, 09:00:29 am
feature=youtu.be This is just 1 video, the other Is not worthy of being uploaded. Have a peak at this!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 20, 2012, 15:48:09 pm
feature=youtu.be This is just 1 video, the other Is not worthy of being uploaded. Have a peak at this!

Thats a hugh hole you use as burner, man.
Thats impressive. You cannot do that normally with the output of an electrolysis cell.
As i understand your story, you mix steam from the electrolysis proces with the HHO from the same proces and then you put it all thru a cooling radiator?

Steve
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 20, 2012, 16:12:53 pm
If you simply add a bit of alcohol to the water it will burn the fire direct out of the water.. at the time i did it i used a saturated solution of Na-oh with maybe 1% or 3 % not sure of alcohol.. 20 amps or more flow 12v applied.. the electrodes were 1 steel tube around 4 inches and a ss 10mm diameter bolt , 4 inches longs...


as long as the current is sustained a big yellow flame comes up right over the water... it didn't smell good, because i guess the nacl was burning too...

It was another of my 2008's experiments


Actually i guess meyer simply used non burnable gases instead of water steam...

If you take the output of a car exhaust and make a kind of mixer where you input hydrogen and oxygen you are able to sustain a flame.

for example you hook up the electrolysis cell to a tube having a valve... of course there must be at least maybe 20amps flowing
 the valve controls the amount of non combustible gases...

actually only ambient gases could do the same...

For me meyer uses the fact that if less than 4 % hydrogen it wont burn the same is reversely valid for oxygen...

In your case the steam will do this moderation, although i guess is not what he did...

Meyer said that the hydrogen oxygen burns at a speed of 350meters per second or so.. speed of sound...

so if the gas travels inside the tube at a greater speed the fire will never be able to reach the cell and cause explosion this is the quenching effect.

If you add the non combustible gases or ambient gases to the combustible gas before it get into the tube line the speed of the gas were already modulated so it can travel at lower speed while still preventing explosion of the cell, this was also the  quenching technology.. applied to modulate gas burning rate, while making it safe to transport...

Regards
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 20, 2012, 19:05:25 pm
My target is to decrease the size of my container so that the water will heat up immediately. I first thought of pouring fish rocks around my cell but now my thoughts are to just make a smaller container. Let me study on what I am going to do. Do not even try this with your acrylic tubecell I've already melted them a while back doing this. It is now clear to me how to make a gas burner for very little wattage.

I bet I can catch the burnt gas and recirculate it. I need to experiment with a different size radiator after I get the new cell up and running. I think that the engine was running on this mix to.

Why did Stan refer to the cell on his car as a Burner Plate Configuration that gets really hot!
Title: Hydrocars Fuel Cell
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 20, 2012, 19:56:02 pm
Nobody here has seen my cell or seen how I run it. My cell uses no additives instead I use a capacitor and Center tap my cell. I have been keeping this to myself for sometime now because I'm tired of being discredited. Here it is. It can produce 5 liters per minute at around 2k watts. I normally only produce 4 liters per min as I do not run it at its peak.

I came up with using a (Center Tap) in combination with a (Capacitor) to replace the use of additives! But there you have a much cleaner burn. I can make the water consume even more current by adding a second capacitor, or putting 1 capacitor on each side of the fuel cell. 
Title: Re: Hydrocars Fuel Cell
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 20, 2012, 22:56:27 pm
Nobody here has seen my cell or seen how I run it. My cell uses no additives instead I use a capacitor and Center tap my cell. I have been keeping this to myself for sometime now because I'm tired of being discredited. Here it is. It can produce 5 liters per minute at around 2k watts. I normally only produce 4 liters per min as I do not run it at its peak.

I came up with using a (Center Tap) in combination with a (Capacitor) to replace the use of additives! But there you have a much cleaner burn. I can make the water consume even more current by adding a second capacitor, or putting 1 capacitor on each side of the fuel cell. 

You do the same as i did with my drycells. You use a rectifier and the capacitor takes care for stabilizing the pulses from the rectifier to your cell.
Its the same as using a stabilized power supply or battery.
But you have to use 10 batterys of 12volts in serie to get the same as you do now with the variac and capacitor.... :)

Steve






Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 21, 2012, 10:38:37 am
Stans water used water that was 32 grains hard. This is Unusually hard! calcium and magnesium is what causes this hardness, if you remove calcium and magnesium the water becomes soft.

Stans water was very hard, I do not know how to get water 32 grains hard! The calcium and magnesium could have acted like a Hydroxide solution. Can someone test what thats 30 grains hard?

Google water grains and see how soft or hard your water is. Epson salt contains Magnesium
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 21, 2012, 17:23:18 pm
You done very well with the phone interview :) The well water was deffinately "softened " before Stan used it from the tap of that fellas home I would have to assume because I really dont think they drank or actually used 32 grain hard water for every day use...  ya think??Hard water usually smells like rottten eggs cawz of the hydrogen sulfide in it. Maybe ask that fella wat type of filteration system he had on his well ?My guess is the water was filtered ultra pure .Ive seen rain water spark(red) with 12v once..  thats one thing ive never seen any one post a video of...  looking inside the tubes with the spark thing going on :) His brother Steve even once said you could see "it" looking down into the tubes but he called it a ribbon wave or something didnt he??
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 21, 2012, 22:15:48 pm
I use caoh or pickling lime to reach high hardness yet it won't get up to 32 grains which would be incredible

Slightly hard = 1-2 grains per gallon (total grains x 17.1 equals ppm)

Medium Hard = 3-7 grains per gallon (total grains x 17.1 equals ppm)

Hard = 7-10.5 grains per gallon (total grains x 17.1 equals ppm)

Extremely Hard Water = 10.5+ grains per gallon (total grains x 17.1 equals ppm)

Note: Each ppm of iron equals 4 grains per gallon of hardness.

Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 22, 2012, 05:24:01 am
You done very well with the phone interview :) The well water was deffinately "softened " before Stan used it from the tap of that fellas home I would have to assume because I really dont think they drank or actually used 32 grain hard water for every day use...  ya think??Hard water usually smells like rottten eggs cawz of the hydrogen sulfide in it. Maybe ask that fella wat type of filteration system he had on his well ?My guess is the water was filtered ultra pure .Ive seen rain water spark(red) with 12v once..  thats one thing ive never seen any one post a video of...  looking inside the tubes with the spark thing going on :) His brother Steve even once said you could see "it" looking down into the tubes but he called it a ribbon wave or something didnt he??

I think that there is things missing. BUT i also know stan used a Boiler plate configeration. He can be seen on video Pointing at it and said that was the (Boiler Plate Configeration.) and I strongly believe that the water was hot like I shown in my video last of using steam and hydroxy. I do not want to wear out my welcome, I would love to talk to the guy some more but I do not want to bother him or make him feel uncomfortable in any way. He told us all a great deal and if you think about it, he said the aluminum was catching on fire, this tells me that his silo lens was so powerfull it would melt aluminum. he could have heated the water and got the superheated steam from it and mixed it with hho.

I have also seen my very own parallel tube cell spark. (Looked like sparkles all over my tubes) they was not submerged but was prior. Right now I am not certain about anything stan was doing, I have seen ALOT and I've seen the technology work consuming current. Just the other night I learned that I could run an engine on much less HHO than I thought buy letting the cell OVERHEAT to a point the water become superheated, and the Current draw has to match the steam output perfectly or you get either too much H or Steam, you have to balance it out. I seen the engine run!

I do not know what to think of what stan says in his videos. Right now my mission is to do my own thing and follow my heart and forget what he was doing. I am out to find something that we can bennifit from no matter if its how he done it or not. right now,,,,

I have been promised a burner that will FRY an egg. I shared this in my last youtube video. That is my direction and that is where I am going! I believe I can Fry an egg with under 1k watts. I also believe you can further alter the gas once I get it understood. My goal is to make a Burner that everyone can Make very fast and very cheap. I want to share it ASAP but my time is Agravated by my 2 companies that I own. HVAC and I Rebuild Recks. I am limited at this time and have to stall.

Thank you very much for the complement, I wish we knew more. Right now I am trying to share everything and I am holding back no info so what I know I share or I try to. If I hold back something its not on purpose..

EDIT IN ;
If you go back and listen to the Audio, you will hear him say the water sounded like it was starting to boil like water boiling in a pan when it starts to boil.
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 22, 2012, 06:11:49 am
I appreciate the inspiration to research more... its hard to get inspiration that leads to search for something old and find something new :)  not trying to steer you away from any dirrection but on ur inspiration ive stumbled on a few articles and here is one of the most interesting ones :

http://www.aetherometry.com/Labofex_Plasma_Physics/aspden_opinion.php
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 29, 2012, 19:20:48 pm
Hello

I tried this stuff but could not get 1 volt more than applied when i disconnect the multimeter... or the water is not pure enough or...

I asked my teacher about, she said it would be impossible to have a potential greater than the source when disconnected and that my theory about it is completely non sense...

So brian i would like to ask if you can do this same test with an oscilloscope or other multimeters to see if she is correct. according to her your multimeter could be the source of this confusion...

Thanks
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 29, 2012, 22:43:09 pm
It could be, I posted the video on youtube and I tested 2 different meters. I am unsure how a digital voltage meter works. Why do both meters register the same? are the both wrong? also, I'm not sure how the meter affects the cell. I posted the video for you to figure it out. You use the right water and electrodes you will get the same results.

BTW, the O scope showed nothing.
Title: I WANT EVERYONE TO READ THIS
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 01, 2012, 06:47:36 am
I want everyone to pack this in their head PLEASE for me.

1., Stan started out with a Silo, a silo is about 25' tall and found on a farm, it is round. He put a Focusing lens atop it to catch and focus sunlight downward!
2. Stan focused the light onto pipes and he heated water. THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW other than the fact his Aluminum kept Bursting into flames, thats another  artical.

LISTEN HERE

Stans place was to Use this SILO to Create Power and sell it, Stan wanted to run his own power plant. Do not worry about how I know what I do, I just have the Experience. So Listen.

I know you can not understand how stan was going to make electricity from this, RWG Research has Stan Meyers Patent on this! Go download it! Its s SOLOR SILO


Stan had to produce DRY STEAM in order to power a TURBINE this is how he planned on generating his electricity. On the way of doing this he stumbled onto something else. There are many types of steam and it happes that Steam can be Dry and Mixed with HHO if some form of Voltage infected this setup. It is when the Gas mixture is released you notice is Flammability.

Do not be a fool, I have to step out for some time. Take this information and do not disrecard it please! Everything you see on the internet, everything you've been told its all bullshit, you will never get anywhere if you do not work together and make this happen.

I have to eject for a bit, so take this information, and you use it! When I come back I hope you have something to show me rather than me showing you. I hate trying to change someones direction in what they're doing more than anything, But you are getting nowhere and the answeres are right there for using water as a gas. It has already been done and it is called watergas wiki it, There are otherways of making it. You dont need massive amounts of hydrogen mixed in with it for it to work! Watch my youtube videos Please.

http://www.rowan.edu/colleges/engineering/clinics/cleanenergy/rowan%20university%20clean%20energy%20program/Energy%20Efficiency%20Audits/Energy%20Technology%20Case%20Studies/Geothermal/geothermal.html




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Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 01, 2012, 07:43:51 am

Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 01, 2012, 07:52:34 am
Do you think this is a Joke?




Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 02, 2012, 06:11:33 am
Patents for you 2 read
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 05, 2013, 10:01:23 am
I can see nobody is still not working on this. Here is a video with the engine running on the Injector ALONE with no carborator, or with the CARB intake hole Plugged off with a Razor Blade!@

I have 2 videos, best to watch them both@!

The injector can't work!!
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 05, 2013, 15:40:17 pm
Hi Alessandro, It has been a while since you were here.
Title: Re: TEAM WORK on Stanley Meyers Injector!!!
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 05, 2013, 15:43:23 pm
Hi Alessandro, It has been a while since you were here.

Hello yes some time.. i know you? :)