Wish i could have some money and at the same time still have time, i'm not efficient trying to get a balance... Or i work too hard or don't work at all =) . Its all about making decisions...
I'm going to use a bicycle wheel for this stuff i will put the iron ball inside the tires and run it with a magnet...
hope it works =)
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Post by: Login to see usernames on August 31, 2012, 16:42:38 pm
May i say that you found a very smart way to replicate this? :D
Steve
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Post by: Login to see usernames on August 31, 2012, 17:18:42 pm
Helo Steve
The idea was nice... but didn't worked as i expected >:( the steel ball i got was too light... it was 15mm diameter... an probably the bicycle wheel was too heavy, and not well balanced.
I had to buy a neodimium block 20x20x20 too because i had no magnets here to play...
Thinking about the torque
T=F x r *sin(teta)
And F=M*G
....
I don't know if the video is false, since the ball should be attracted in the direction of the magnet and than stops there it shouldn't spin further... maybe thats why he didn't let it run for too long... I mean the magnet will attract the all points of the sphere it will find equilibrium... i guess
What you think about?
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Post by: Login to see usernames on August 31, 2012, 17:57:03 pm
Hmmm, finding its equilibrium might be true.... Not sure, however.
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Post by: Login to see usernames on August 31, 2012, 17:58:37 pm
It seems even to accelerate in the beginning...
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Post by: Login to see usernames on August 31, 2012, 18:47:59 pm
This is the book the guy mentioned at the start....
I watched it very close...
the sin of 20° is 0,34
so the torque the ball should cause to turn the wheel is the mass of the ball times G times 0,34 times the radius of the wheel...
the problem i see is that the moment of inertial of the ball is much smaller than the rotor... thus the transference of rotation is really poor...
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Post by: Login to see usernames on August 31, 2012, 19:33:50 pm
Maybe the wheel should not touch the external radius of the sphere... this way it can be out of equilibrium.... i guess... i'm building new one with two children bicycle wheels =)
It will look just like the one in the video, except that one seems made of wood probably balsa or something else light weighted,,,
notice how the ball stands close to the corner of the magnet... maybe i need a longer magnet to achieve this effect...
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Post by: Login to see usernames on August 31, 2012, 20:52:45 pm
Which kid cannot bike now anymore? ;D
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Post by: Login to see usernames on August 31, 2012, 23:43:19 pm
Good one !
I bought a 40mm steel ball... it weights around 260g... so 2,5 newton... the wheels are plastic...
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Post by: Login to see usernames on September 01, 2012, 00:43:53 am
I bought a 40mm steel ball... it weights around 260g... so 2,5 newton... the wheels are plastic...
Thats a good size ball. Iron?
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Post by: Login to see usernames on September 01, 2012, 21:47:28 pm
here it is.., but no success yet in making it self spin =)
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Post by: Login to see usernames on September 01, 2012, 22:06:01 pm
Great second attemp, boss! You need more magnetical attraction?
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Post by: Login to see usernames on September 01, 2012, 22:22:28 pm
Actually i don't know.. i need now more time to improve it... the magnet is so strong that the ball opens the wheels making it drop.. i need better solid rotor... i'm planing to add some screws for that task...
Is really strange... how can it spin?...
when it should be working i will make some more images...
I'm thinking if the length of the magnet and its geometrical configuration relative to the sphere diameter is a parameter to play with...