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Electrolysis => Electrolysis => Our Alternator => Topic started by: hydro on March 17, 2008, 05:21:22 am

Title: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 17, 2008, 05:21:22 am
I will perfect and make a schematic for pulsing the rotor... this way works just as good but it is not self powered, meaning you have to apply around 15 watts of power to the rotor from your battery, its just a simple 555 timer circuit with a slow pulse cap.

in the past self sustaining circuit i used no diodes, since the rotor is being pulsed this circuit will have to have diodes between pins 6 and 7.

the difference between this circuit and the other, this circuit almost produces as much gas, there is a reason for this because of the voltage the rotor see's with the last circuit, there was more voltage working the rotor. in this circuit the voltage will be lower, so you get less gas.

the advantage to this circuit, you dont have to babysit the cell when its running, you can set the pots and walk away where in the last circuit you could not do that, also with this setup there is alot less torq on the driver motor.
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 18, 2008, 10:37:42 am
Here she is...
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 18, 2008, 13:17:33 pm
looking good, sir.

steve
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 18, 2008, 15:35:42 pm
look great!

Can't wait for the Schematic

Spike
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 19, 2008, 18:08:54 pm
looks nice
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 20, 2008, 19:53:13 pm
Good morning everybody! Is this your last functional circuit?
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 20, 2008, 20:51:11 pm
for producing gas with the alternator yes, and since the alternator is the best source for pulsed dc i probably will not be playing with other circuits...

now i will start making a circuit to pull the oxygen atoms from the hydroxy gas so that the burn rate will slow from a clean blue flame down to a slow orange flame...
when you give a car gas, you're really giving it air,,, how can you give the car air if the hydroxy is already oxygen rich as it can get? so the oxygen needs to be removed from the hydroxy so you can later control the ambient air flow and burn rate.

i have already got the circuit operating , you can see a sample of this on youtube under hydrocarz
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 20, 2008, 23:10:48 pm
sure
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 21, 2008, 21:08:55 pm
here is the schematic
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 28, 2008, 09:49:13 am
which fet are you using on this circuit? sorry if I missed it on a list some where.   ;D
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 28, 2008, 18:31:05 pm
FQA30N40
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 29, 2008, 10:08:38 am
thank u sir... ;D
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 29, 2008, 19:19:30 pm
NM its on the schematic.
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 30, 2008, 04:46:22 am
(http://ionizationx.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=242.0;attach=666;image)
What is the big block of metal for?
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 30, 2008, 05:36:26 am
its a heatsink to keep chips cool
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 15, 2008, 00:21:27 am
Here she is...
hi hydro I just came from work and  I saw your video on you tube can you tell me what exactly did you do with your altenator And how did you conect the electroniks to rotor
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 16, 2008, 16:14:57 pm
Good morning Hydrocars
  I would appreciate you input on my gadget. i purchased a aquapulser d1400 on ebay ( which I use to input the pules to my alternator).I have been sucessful with some production however the WFC gets hot and i believe more electrolises is taking place than high voltage dissaciotion.  Is your schematic a stand alone system that will give me a VIC ( this is what I'm trying for  ) ??? when i use the AQ D1400 I get aprox 55 to65 volts on all three outputs of the alt at aprox .4 amps.  I get a square wave only  it has a three  ( 3 ) bumps on the top of the pulse. I join all three to the outside of my cells either 3 or 6 tubes and I run the neg ( center ) together  through diodes back into the front of the cell ( pos. )
thanks for your input and watch out for the BIM's

EzBruce
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 16, 2008, 19:40:39 pm
http://ionizationx.com/index.php?topic=242.0
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 17, 2008, 06:55:43 am
im a little confused on this site as to which projects are which but this>
is the project that id like to replicate, also im curious as to how the diode bridge is assembled, as in dave lawtons schematics, there are 3 lines leaving the bridge, each going to 2 tubes within the cell. In your cell however it looks like you have just a 2 wire hookup to the diode bridge as shown by your "beta" schematic > http://ionizationx.com/index.php?topic=140.0 as i only see two wires leaving the alternator. Also is that .2 amps or 2 amps being read on the multimeter. sorry for all the questions and odd placement but im lost  :-\
thanks
~Tripp
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 17, 2008, 07:43:26 am
that was me pulsing the rotor with a 555 timer, the output of the alternator is full wave rectified. the spike remover inside the alternator was removed.. the amps on the rotor was 2 amps pulsed. the rpm of the alternator was about 3k or more.
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 20, 2008, 15:27:27 pm
and so its just a 2 wire hook up of all the negatives and postives (tubes) of the cell to the diode bridge leaving the alternator, correct? and one more question i noticed the slits cut in the outer tubes to get them to the right freqency, is there anyway to do that very acuratly?
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 20, 2008, 19:38:28 pm
The slits is for faster gas production and it also helps keep the water cool, normaly i take the alternator and remove the cap inside the alternator and regulator, i then hook it directly to the fuel cell and pulse the rotor.

so, take the aternator and remove the cap, hook it to fuel cell and pulse at 3k rpm's. there is lots of pictures on this forum as well.

sorry for the lack of time i have today.
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 18, 2008, 12:05:21 pm
Question for All: has anyone tried using the Boyce designed pulse unit with an alternator and if so what were the results. I bought the pcb @ HG and was thinking about giving it a whirl.  Also, I see that the favorite alternator to use seems to be a Delco. I have a really nice, chromed-out, Mustang alternator with outboard rectifier...was wondering if I can use that instead of the Delco?
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 18, 2008, 13:49:05 pm
Hi Voltar,

Any alternator will work.
Just put some power on the rotor and rotate the rotor with help of a driver motor and you are on yr way!

br
Steve
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 18, 2008, 17:28:42 pm
Hi Voltar,

Any alternator will work.
Just put some power on the rotor and rotate the rotor with help of a driver motor and you are on yr way!

br
Steve

But you cant leave the voltage regulator in it cuz it will make it a single phase... right?
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 18, 2008, 23:56:21 pm
Hi Voltar,

Any alternator will work.
Just put some power on the rotor and rotate the rotor with help of a driver motor and you are on yr way!

br
Steve

But you cant leave the voltage regulator in it cuz it will make it a single phase... right?


The output of a standard alternator is rectified DC.
If you remove the diodes, then you will see the three phases

br
Steve
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 19, 2008, 02:34:48 am
Thanks Stevie...will be hooking up a direct-drive donut between the motor and the alternator. Motor runs at 3250 rpm. Wanted to try this instead of using a belt.  Any words about the Boyce pwm? I'm planning on having it modified so it can handle higher input/output d.c. and then send it to the alternator..which you'll love when you see it. Beautiful custom chrome-job. Hey, I want my unit to not only work great but it's gotta have some bling! LOL!
Thanks again, guys.
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 19, 2008, 21:28:30 pm
I have been lurking for a while. I will like to provide an  input.
I think you have the right collection of components: alternator and motor.
What is missing is a signal generator to modulate the RF and a choke. Go back and read fearjars report at waterfuelcell.org.
The replication, according to fearjar is transient . The variables have to be constantly adjusted to sustain the effect.

Dave Lawton used his pwm to control the alternator frequency.
Title: Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic rotor pulse
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 20, 2008, 01:18:46 am
just to make things clear,, this is not a stan replica. this circuit pulses the maximum amount of amps into a cell with no form of amp restriction.