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Electrolysis => HV and hydroxy => Topic started by: scalance on April 27, 2011, 11:53:26 am

Title: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 27, 2011, 11:53:26 am
Hi, guys
 
well I wanted to build the 8XA circuit but I foud only a few parts of it, so I'm now trying to build the VIC to use it with the dave lawton circuit I built.
 
I need more information about the VIC, please can you give me more details about it, I red on a topic that Donald used a vic of a primary with 3.5 layers of 54 turns/layer, 24 guauge , BIFILAR, and a secondary of 8 layers of 30 gauge wire, about 120 turns/layer, but I didn't understand how did he wind the primary.
 
Also please a schema of how to hook up the vic to the chookes, and will it work if I use 24 or 25 gauge wire for both the primary and the secondary?
 
I also tried a MOT primaray and secondary as a chooke of one side but only what I found is that the voltage across the cell drops.
 
thx for your help.
Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 03, 2011, 14:39:03 pm
No reply :(
Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 03, 2011, 21:54:54 pm
read all of stans patents. watch all his videos. study all his pictures


if you want, read everything on this forum too.


experiment, think


repeat
Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 05, 2011, 00:48:52 am
thx donald, I will try.
Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 06, 2011, 07:58:03 am
VIC means Value and Inherit Christabelle. For more information I'll help you.

Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 29, 2012, 13:01:26 pm
I am not getting. What is the meaning of VIC? Can anyone give me elaborate information about VIC?
Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 23, 2017, 18:52:05 pm
VIC = Voltage Intensifier Circuit

It involves pulsing a coil for high voltage spikes or something like that IIRC.
Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 09, 2019, 20:41:08 pm
This is ionization X and this question should have been answered, there should be solid answers here. I will address this post Tonite!
Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 10, 2019, 05:03:10 am
Sorry for the delay, and yes, Voltage intensifier circuit as stan created it. Stans famous statement, voltage would go to infinity if the electonics would allow it.
So what is it?

It is a device stan created to take to the patent office to prove that the theory worked! The device Proved hydrogen could be produced in large amounts using voltage potential and little current flow. The device offered by stan called the VIC to the patent office Convinced the patent office into giving stan his patent. The device was obviously "more effiecient" than normal direct current which heated up, the device ran cold. Boldly put,

THE DEVICE WAS A SMALL SCALE MODEL that proved stans ideal was different than normal electrolysis, and the device was promising and it worked! Stan got his patent on it didn't he!

How it works.

The Vic uses 2 chokes, when a Primary Transformer IS NOT used the PWM or whatever device you choose to use will EMIT BACK EMF. To catch this EMF you would use a shunt diode. To Magnify the voltage potential you would use a secondary side of transformer, the primary and NOT A SHUNT DIODE. The secondary primary creates a larger EMF that RESONATES with the CHOKES at a "  CERTAIN FREQUENCY " Hence, RESONANCE. The Primary side of the step up transformer shall NOT be shunted as it reduces the resonance , and even kills it.

PWM, This allowes resonance to occur,  You can not have self resonance if you are providing the power! you start the resonance, stop, cut power, and let it resonate! Then switch the power back on to repeat, PWM. It is this Cell that takes a charge and flys to infinity.

Fact!

There has to be no load for resonance of this setup to occur, it can be seen with NO LOAD at all, and it can be recorded on a oscilloscope! This is why the water needs to be none conductive with no additives.

Water reacts to a step charge affect when a static pull charges in play. A high voltage Microwave oven diode could be used to produce direct current for the water molecule if the water was (Very Clean). IT IS NOT A AMP CONSUMING PROCESS. The device was presented, and proved to work, the patent insures this.




Now that the VIC is out of the way, Stop Screwing off and put this baby on a larger scale where it belongs, Put the VIC on the shelve after you realize how it is working, IT IS A TOY. The real deal produces much more power, and sever hundred more volts.

Back EMF is the key. Voltage is not exactly just a Baloon sticking to a wall, or a static shock. it is a tool that can be used.

Many of you have not seen the light behind the curtain because one can not see past the point made. This is as clear as I can explain it to you. You do not need a Ferrite core to hit resonance, you dont need tuned chokes, (you do need the right resonate frequecy of the circuit) and you do need to be educated on how to run a Function generator, and trust me when I say this guys, it can take a week to learn how to tune these things or longer. 555 is complete junk when searching for resonance, a 555 is for when you already know the freq and you want a machine to produce that freq.

Get a PWM Generator or get off the porch! Learn what the DC OFFSET is for, because you will need that! This keeps heat down and makes the waves flow harmlessly to the coils, learn what start stop phase is, (you can not hit resonance without that!!!!!!) I will say this a second time so you can be sure and hear me, you can not hit resonance on the VIC without the Start Stop Phase. You will find that a sine wave is just as good as a square, and a triangle is of no use at all.

Happy testing!

Oh, charge your cells with Direct DC before you begen, Dont charge it if you're looking for the large booms that shakes the table.

Happy Testing.
Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 10, 2019, 20:53:24 pm
Hello Hydrocars (and the others :-) ).
I can confirm that part of using the chokes with no transformer, shunt diode is a must, otherwise the power of the collapsing chokes is wasted (during the pulse off time).
Please people, play with it and you will see the "pulse doubling effect".

Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 10, 2019, 21:02:33 pm
Yes but the show. Is replaced with a secondary coil of a transformer. At resonance voltage potential is very great although there still needs to be a. After the choke on one side to ensure purity of DC. as I recall now that I do think about it I remember stay enjoying a. Under a diet now that I think about that I can understand why. I think I can make that part better or even figure out what was missing thank you for your post.
Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 10, 2019, 21:03:47 pm
oh I remember now the diode Goes between the secondary coil and choke it does not go after the choke it will not work if you put it after the check has to be before the choke. Think hard about that!
Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 10, 2019, 21:12:49 pm
I used a bifilar choke and 2 diodes,  one like in Stan's schematic inline with the positive choke, and the second one the shunt one, linking the 2 chokes (see attachment).
Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 10, 2019, 21:23:03 pm
Remove the shunt diode and install secondary. Any 24 volt coil will work iorn core is okay. Will not work without proper DC offset. Resonance occurs only when proper cemetery is in respect to DC offset. However gas perduction is very promising without resonance 600 Hertz to 8000 Hertz and can be seen as high as 15k Hertz.
Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 10, 2019, 21:30:55 pm
Hydrocars I left the transformer on the shelf for now, I cant design an efficient one for now.
One thing that I can observe with the shunt diode, is that the "ringing" of the coil self-resonance disappears.
Stan used a shunt diode across the primary, can anyone  confirm if it does the same effect?
Thank you all.
Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 10, 2019, 21:43:39 pm
I could be wrong, but my feelings tell me that it does not work with that "high voltage" on the tube cells) that most people talk about.
We can look at the "independent test evaluation report" as on some patents, voltages from 13v and higher (Resonant Cavity (Interfacing) )

Look into US4798661

Title: Re: the VIC
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 10, 2019, 23:38:35 pm
I will help you get a working prototype.