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Title: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 14, 2010, 13:17:20 pm
MOLECULAR DISSOCIATION OF WATER  A PROJECT FOR THE EXPERIMENTER BY DAN DANFORTH 

In. the original setup that Stan Meyer showed us, he used 36 volts as the basic potential applied to the reaction chamber. He also commented that stainless steel ( 410 not 403 ) was the only metal that could be used as oxides formed with all others. His original chamber used 18 inch long by 0.375 inch diameter (o.d.) rod surrounded by 1 inch diameter (i.d.) 16 inch long pipe. The reason for the difference in length is for mechanical ease of construction. My prototype used 14 inch long rod and 12 inch long pipe of similar diameters as the drawing indicates.   Having a severe lack of parts diversity here in Sri-Lanka, I was only able to obtain a 24 volt. 8 amp transformer and built my circuitry around that. The final output is 20 volts with Ml reading 10 amps to the pulsing circuit which generates a symetricel squarewave ( 50% duty cycle ) to the flyback inductor connected in series with the chamber as the schematic shows. The flyback high voltage spike is directed across the chamber via c* end d*. The use of a high voltage spike alone, without the current being delivered through the liquid, will not cause the disassociation to take place. This I verified using an ignition coil in place of the inductor and applied the secondary with halfwave rectification and blocking capacitor to prevent burn out to the chamber with no results. Apparently the current in the water aligns the molecules approprately to allow the high voltege spike to do its workr which in my opinion is the stimulation of molecular resonance. Once Stan's unit was made to begin breakdown (which takes 6 to 8 seconds) he was able to reduce both current and voltage to miniscule proportions. I attribute this to sympathetic oscillation of the aligned molecules, requiring very little in the way of additional excitation. A phenomena akin to Tesla `s super resonance... resulting in Stan discovering that he only had to supply three pulses in ten to satisfy the requirement of the chamber. I have not yet had the opportunity to duplicate this portion of the experiment but, in time I vill.   Duplication of the device described in these pages, however, will produce the phenomena and hopefully launch other enterprising end inventive souls on to designing their own refined models. It would be nice to have feedback so that we can all collectively work to bring about the transition to non-pollution energy.   P.S.- Tho electrical circuit is by no means optinised, but represents instead the result of parts availability here. Any good technician could improve on it quite readily.   There are two primary frequencies that produce the best results. They are. 14372 Hz and 43430 Hz. The former is about 50% more efficient, but it seems that just about any frequency between 9 KHz and 143762 KHz works quite well. 1) This is because the nature of the wave form ( a spike ) is rich in harmonics and one of them is bound to be close to one of the two primary frequencies.   Use of permanent magnets may also increase efficiency. I'll give you the outcome of that attempt in my next letter along with the plans for what I hope to be a much improved version.   Note: Sub-harmonics of the two primary frequencies at which dissociation will occur:
43430 Hz             143762 HZ  SUBHARMONIC          SUBHABMONIC  1st 21715    HZ      1st 71881    HZ  2nd 14476.67 HZ      2nd 47920.67 HZ  3rd 15517.5  HZ      3rd 35840.1  HZ  4th 8686     Hz      4th 28752.4  HZ    *1500 VOLTS IS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR MOLECULAR RINGING TO BEGIN.   The ball is now in your court.   Let's get the game started and have as many players as possible.   From the legal stand point it can be argued in an international court of law that the vital need of this technology by every nation to aleviate the critical threat to our environment globally is so greet as to justify nullification of proprietry rights if those rights are used to delay or prevent distribution of the technology and if such delay or prevention - including measured and / or levied distribution so as to restrict or limit its use, or for the purposes of financial profit isolate significent economic groups from its use and if such acts previously mentioned can be shown to cause an increased danger to life, persons involved in such acts can be convicted of intent to do bodily harm by crime of omission.   (ANY MATERIAL SENT TO `TUNING IN' WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE ABOVE WRITER.)   Back to the Mad Scientist's Lair (http://home.weblung.org/~steveb/index.html)   
 
 
    Source publication: Unknown
Scanned from very bad photocopy.   
 
 
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 14, 2010, 13:30:28 pm
I have not yet had the opportunity to duplicate this portion of the experiment but, in time I vill. 
I'll wait for that ;)
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 14, 2010, 15:35:17 pm
I have not yet had the opportunity to duplicate this portion of the experiment but, in time I vill. 
I'll wait for that ;)

 ;D
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 14, 2010, 21:07:55 pm
How has everyone been? I saw Dankie over on the other forums and I thought I'd check in and see what was cooking. Been working on solid state systems over the past year or two. Found some interesting things with high voltage driving coils. Anyone duplicated the JLN tests? They looked pretty simple and promising.

Tad
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 14, 2010, 21:30:23 pm
How has everyone been? I saw Dankie over on the other forums and I thought I'd check in and see what was cooking. Been working on solid state systems over the past year or two. Found some interesting things with high voltage driving coils. Anyone duplicated the JLN tests? They looked pretty simple and promising.

Tad

Hi Tad,
 
No, nobody did a succesfull replication of JNL. Neither we could replicate your succes as well.
Have you ever found the details of your succesful tests of the resonance setup?
 
Give Dankie our regards, btw... ;D
 
Steve
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 14, 2010, 21:36:52 pm
Hi Steve.

Interesting replication, my question is; Is Dan's replication based upon the Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency unit (alternator sett up)?
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 14, 2010, 21:48:28 pm
No. My system was as a stated in other threads, similar to JLN's but not as simple. My data was for my cell only anyways, there are no secrets. As you have seen on the JLN site, the circuit needs to be tuned to each new cell that is built. I can build another system once I have these two projects done, but honestly this type of system requires so much time in tuning and such that it is not much fun.

My biggest problem was in scaling it up. I never got the system to run in larger sizes, so it was useless to me. My investors did go see the truck in Arizona that is running on straight water though. I didn't think it could work because of the low voltage and high current but apparently it does, they checked the whole truck out and found no gasoline anywhere, and they also drove the car.

Wells (the inventor) has cancer but it looks like he is making sure others know how he built the system so it wont be lost if he dies. The inside story is that he is mixing two or more frequencies in order to create large volumes of gas. The truck ran 3000 miles or more on water, using 1 gallon of water for every 350 miles or so, which is what Stan said as well.

Tad
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 14, 2010, 22:36:25 pm
Steve,

I sent you a PM for my skype contact. I have to get back to work, but if you have any questions or need help hit me up on Skype or email.

Tad
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 14, 2010, 22:48:05 pm
Dan Danforth's circuit has been around for a long time. Has anybody been able to replicate it?
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 14, 2010, 22:59:27 pm
It's not a good design. Would be much better to replicate the JLN circuit. Or even better build a simple system using a micro-controller to auto tune the circuit. Preferably one with at least 2 PWM outputs that can be run at independent frequencies. Transformer is a simple off the shelf pulse transformer 12/220 or so. I have a couple of these laying around. The processors I am using are already coded for auto sweeping of frequencies so that part is already done. Ferrite rod is simple with two coils, one wrapped opposite of the other to cancel flux.

If you guys want to try it I can help. I am in the middle of two circuits that must be done by this weekend, and then they will need to be tested before the end of September is up so I am out until then.

Tad
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 14, 2010, 23:40:00 pm
Hey Tad, keep checking back to the forums every few weeks or months, I might have some questions for you at some point :)
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 15, 2010, 00:20:12 am
Sure thing  ;)
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 15, 2010, 01:01:27 am
Hello


I believe that this guy really have succeed, because i'm believing that stan solution was quite simple...


I made a diagram of this schematic, with a better visualization for better understanding what he did exactly.. here it is




This is the page 19 where are the others?


i'm thinking that the unipolar pulses applied to the primary is one of the main principles behind stan work, is not very hard to make it


i have analyzed very well the behavior of the currents and made this other drawings ...


Basically when the unipolar field collapses a very ultra fast pulse is generated, if connected this way you should be able to apply this pulse to the water thru the other inductor that shares the same coupling field...








Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 15, 2010, 01:23:40 am
Anytime Steve. Tell me if you need any help.

@Sebosfato

Yeah, the Danforth stuff is ok, it's just alot more complex than it needs to be. It also has some areas that could fail based on transients.
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 15, 2010, 11:01:39 am
yes, it is a bit complicated at a first look but i think that i'm starting to understand what he did...


he created a kind of current sensing that generates the resonant feedback, thats why he uses the neutral to supply the 555 timer.. the 555 is there for generating an arbitrary frequency but being able to sense and lock in automatically into resonance...


you see a * in his drawing here he show something like 60w 22-5ohm, i believe it is where the cell is connected... (between the transistors) i didn't understood the Rx yet and how exactly the second coil is connected .


seems to me like a successful replication


he used two coils of 200 turns divided in 5 layers of 40 turns for each coil. (section A and section B)


However i already have my own circuit and schematic for the vic witch i'm going to use to test what i'm saying.


Did you guys understood the unipolar pulse thing that i mentioned? When every unipolar pulse collapses, a very high speed pulse is generated and as the pulse is very fast the voltage of the spike will be huge...  ( a ultra high speed diode will be needed in order to be able to bring this pulse to the water...


In my drawing in blue you see the first pulse and its current flow and in black you see the off pulse and its current flow...


i made a representation of the ions electrons path into the circuit witch is the arrow followed by the black point...


I also represented the spike as a black point representing the collapses of the field... This spike is what will dissociate the water, so the higher the frequency the more spikes you get...


I'm thinking that this way no switching device will be needed as the diodes will be able to open or close automatically during pulsing operations


I BELIEVE






 
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 15, 2010, 17:58:26 pm
Guys i discovered meyer secret.
Its all about charging the inductor with one frequency and discharge with other.


Example


1 joule = 1 watt / second


If you charge the inductor with one watt in one second and than discharge this inductor in 1 nano second you are creating a 1 Giga joule discharge.


The secret is the collapse of the field as i explained in the last post.


again
The pulse that charge the transformer is at one frequency but have a 99,99% duty cycle... thus the discharge occurs in 0,01% of the period thus it is about 10000 times smaller...


than voltage perform work


I will end here and let you take your conclusions.



Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 15, 2010, 18:40:45 pm


1 joule = 1 watt / second

no!
i don't know how often i read W/s now in this and other forums.


1 Watt = 1 Joule / second   or   1 joule = 1 Watt * second



If you charge the inductor with one watt in one second and than discharge this inductor in 1 nano second you are creating a 1 Giga joule discharge.
No.
You charge it with 1J = 1Ws and discharge it within 1ns then you'll have a 1GW discharge in that time, not 1 GJ. 





Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 15, 2010, 18:47:59 pm
Is the same...

But you are right i didn't made myself very clear.


I meant the energy of the discharge.
 
It equivalent to


1watt second or = 1 joule      (watt/second) you know...


1 joule = 1 watt * second   because watt is power or work done, and joule (energy density) is 1 watt applied for one second if it has to be done in half of the time would be twice the energy of the discharge.
 

further


2 joules = 2 watts-second (two joules)


 if discharged in half second it would be a 4 watts discharge or 4 joules discharge...


2 joules = 1 watt * (for) 2 seconds

1joule = 10w discharge if the period is 0,1 second

power = power

I didn't meant that this is equivalent to generate energy but is the way all inventors found to create huge forces that make work if applied the right way..,



Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 15, 2010, 19:24:51 pm
-> I meant the power of the discharge. There is no power per time unit which is used in electrical engineering. Of course you could derive power by time to calculate the usage in power plants or the cost, but it has nothing to do with energy really.I'd let it go but other people may read it and learn it wrong.

You're contradicting yourself here

1 watt/1 second is = 10w/0,1 second


1/1 = 1 but 10/0,1 = 100 and that cannot be the same obviously. however
1 Watt*second = 10Watt*0,1 second = 1 Joule
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 16, 2010, 06:06:34 am
Haitar
1 watt per second or 1 joule is = 10watts applied in 0,1 second  ok

now you say:
1/1 = 1 but 10/0,1 = 100 and that cannot be the same obviously. however
1 Watt*second = 10Watt*0,1 second = 1 Joule

And you are not wrong

as it is not the same because i'm talking about energy density not the total energy inside of the system. 

you need to understand that i'm talking about 0,1 second not 1 second anymore

1 joule witch is equal to 1 watt if discharged in one second... as much as is 10kw power applied in 1 second is = to 10kj and likely if this 10kj is applied in a shorter time the density of the energy is greater.

einstein proved this with the relativistic theory, and also plank

If you increase the frequency you increase the energy density, the energy bags become more dense... but overall energy is the same as on the rest of the second you will not apply more energy

you see the joules remain the same because watts * second but the density is watt/second

Thats what i mean

Now you just need to figure that this density will lead you to achieve effects on materials witch will lead them to generate electrical energy by movement or deflection of the charged particles due to the intensity of the field...



Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 16, 2010, 22:12:47 pm
what are your opinions guys?
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 16, 2010, 23:31:39 pm
Maybe more bench time and less theorizing? The strange thing is that most replications are using multiple frequencies, that is what has always boggled me.

Tad
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 16, 2010, 23:36:28 pm
Seb,

I think you may need Dave Lawton's circuit to prove this theory. He used 2 555 timers. One supplied a low freq pulse at an adjustable duty cycle while the other produced a high freq pulse also at an adjustable duty cycle.

If it works then Dave and Ravi may be right. At the moment I do not believe any of them.

I believe Low voltage and High current is more efficient.
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 17, 2010, 00:16:00 am
Well if My experiments, and Lawton, Ravi etc had been so good as they could be scaled up and made into a commercial product then we would already have cars running solely on water. So it's not as easy as it seems..... There are promising technologies, especially in Magnetolysis, etc, but none are of commercial value yet.


feature=related

Tad
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 17, 2010, 02:06:11 am
I'm finishing the prototype this weekend i will have a position. 


I will not use the lawton circuit as i examined and they are not like the principle i have here..


I will use the pll circuit to generate the frequency and maintain resonance as i did in my previous experiments but i will use a duty cycle variable gate made from a 555 timer going into the pin 5 of the pll that will control the number of pulses being applied to the primary and with an invert logic will also activate the amp consuming device witch will be the Damper of the resonance witch i want to achieve, ( as a mean to control the production) ( i don't want all the water inside my chamber to explode, hehe might be dangerous) as the electron extraction circuit will be used in my concept to double the frequency and allow the resonant charging effect thru a second high speed diode when the amp consuming device switch is in off position...


 
I made a very nice schematic, and the all plan for the wave forms needed to achieve what i want, there is only one little thing i need to think about, i need to figure a way to have the gate pulse to the amp switch to only start when the pulse is finished to avoid its conduction during high stress timing.


I'm finishing the vic


I have 2 resonant coils 0,8mm wire  80 turns per coil being one wound over the other in the same direction but with a very good insulation between both ( i used nomex and mylar insulation) the up coil of them i made variable every ten turns, and both got 38 mh


I'm using a ferrite toroidal core about 10cm diameter having about 5000 uh permeability if i remember well HV yellow insulation tape under all windings,


Only the "bifilar" resonant coils are one wounded over the other, the secondary will be separated and primary also for easy of changing...


i just need now to wind up the secondary and primary and solder everything up and will be able to perform 1° tests


I will use 0,27mm wire for the secondary and it will have about 100 turns... while the primary will have 30


when i get the resonance i will than adjust the primary and secondary to the right impedance to reach maximum power transfer..


Z= R1+R2+R3+Re


Z transformation = T^2* Z


My water capacitor have about 1nf is a 4 inch long pair of tubes with 2mm gap being the inside tube is 1 inch diameter... I have used corona dope on the inside of the inside tube and outside of the outside tube, and have used sandpaper on the contact surfaces in a tentative to clear it well and raise a bit the contact area...


however thinking about i found that the corona dope will probably not be enough as it has a very low dielectric value, and is very thin coating, even if i applied many layers and dried on fire... delrin to support the voltage stress would need to be some mm thick so i think the corona will help very little if so. 
no problem 
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 17, 2010, 10:48:19 am
Yes the vic doubles the frequency as i predicted, however i didn't got the unipolar pulses yet and i need to figure out why... in the water there is ac and i see the bubbles coming out from it...


I'm using water for battery (deionized) and its cold


later when i get back i will make some more tests...


I used only two diodes until now (i also used 1 diode in series with the primary between it and the mosfet...) ... and i found that many more bubles come out when i don't use the secondary... also this way the waveform on the scope is = for the back emf pulse and the pulse...


Now i need to figure the unipolar thing and the ultra short pulse... I'm thinking that maybe if i pulse with 99% duty cycle... maybe


I will try also geting an iron rod as maybe the problem is the saturation on my toroidal ferrite....




Other problem i see is that my oscope is very bad it don't see dc....
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 01, 2012, 11:24:27 am
MOLECULAR DISSOCIATION OF WATER  A PROJECT FOR THE EXPERIMENTER BY DAN DANFORTH 

In. the original setup that Stan Meyer showed us, he used 36 volts as the basic potential applied to the reaction chamber. He also commented that stainless steel ( 410 not 403 ) was the only metal that could be used as oxides formed with all others. His original chamber used 18 inch long by 0.375 inch diameter (o.d.) rod surrounded by 1 inch diameter (i.d.) 16 inch long pipe. The reason for the difference in length is for mechanical ease of construction. My prototype used 14 inch long rod and 12 inch long pipe of similar diameters as the drawing indicates.   Having a severe lack of parts diversity here in Sri-Lanka, I was only able to obtain a 24 volt. 8 amp transformer and built my circuitry around that. The final output is 20 volts with Ml reading 10 amps to the pulsing circuit which generates a symetricel squarewave ( 50% duty cycle ) to the flyback inductor connected in series with the chamber as the schematic shows. The flyback high voltage spike is directed across the chamber via c* end d*. The use of a high voltage spike alone, without the current being delivered through the liquid, will not cause the disassociation to take place. This I verified using an ignition coil in place of the inductor and applied the secondary with halfwave rectification and blocking capacitor to prevent burn out to the chamber with no results. Apparently the current in the water aligns the molecules approprately to allow the high voltege spike to do its workr which in my opinion is the stimulation of molecular resonance. Once Stan's unit was made to begin breakdown (which takes 6 to 8 seconds) he was able to reduce both current and voltage to miniscule proportions. I attribute this to sympathetic oscillation of the aligned molecules, requiring very little in the way of additional excitation. A phenomena akin to Tesla `s super resonance... resulting in Stan discovering that he only had to supply three pulses in ten to satisfy the requirement of the chamber. I have not yet had the opportunity to duplicate this portion of the experiment but, in time I vill.   Duplication of the device described in these pages, however, will produce the phenomena and hopefully launch other enterprising end inventive souls on to designing their own refined models. It would be nice to have feedback so that we can all collectively work to bring about the transition to non-pollution energy.   P.S.- Tho electrical circuit is by no means optinised, but represents instead the result of parts availability here. Any good technician could improve on it quite readily.   There are two primary frequencies that produce the best results. They are. 14372 Hz and 43430 Hz. The former is about 50% more efficient, but it seems that just about any frequency between 9 KHz and 143762 KHz works quite well. 1) This is because the nature of the wave form ( a spike ) is rich in harmonics and one of them is bound to be close to one of the two primary frequencies.   Use of permanent magnets may also increase efficiency. I'll give you the outcome of that attempt in my next letter along with the plans for what I hope to be a much improved version.   Note: Sub-harmonics of the two primary frequencies at which dissociation will occur:
43430 Hz             143762 HZ  SUBHARMONIC          SUBHABMONIC  1st 21715    HZ      1st 71881    HZ  2nd 14476.67 HZ      2nd 47920.67 HZ  3rd 15517.5  HZ      3rd 35840.1  HZ  4th 8686     Hz      4th 28752.4  HZ    *1500 VOLTS IS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR MOLECULAR RINGING TO BEGIN.   The ball is now in your court.   Let's get the game started and have as many players as possible.   From the legal stand point it can be argued in an international court of law that the vital need of this technology by every nation to aleviate the critical threat to our environment globally is so greet as to justify nullification of proprietry rights if those rights are used to delay or prevent distribution of the technology and if such delay or prevention - including measured and / or levied distribution so as to restrict or limit its use, or for the purposes of financial profit isolate significent economic groups from its use and if such acts previously mentioned can be shown to cause an increased danger to life, persons involved in such acts can be convicted of intent to do bodily harm by crime of omission.   (ANY MATERIAL SENT TO `TUNING IN' WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE ABOVE WRITER.)   Back to the Mad Scientist's Lair (http://home.weblung.org/~steveb/index.html)   
 
 
    Source publication: Unknown
Scanned from very bad photocopy.   
 
 

I went to Meyer's lab 3 times from 1986 on.
I know I'm late for the party but I've been posting here mostly:
http://open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=733
I had a long history with Meyer as you can read starting in post #43 here.
http://open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=650&page=3

Here ARE originals of the Danforth site docs which included the sketch.
The paper looks like it can from Danforth here:
http://amasci.com/freenrg/seaback.html
These two were posted on a website back in the late 90s and disappeared after a few years.
I had them saved so here you are.
Also is a reversal done by Jim Miller that may help in reading the components.

Cheers,
JP

Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 02, 2012, 16:02:47 pm
Hi JP, good to see you here aswell :)
Here's hoping for the best for the demo cell  ;)
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 02, 2012, 16:08:11 pm
Guys i discovered meyer secret.
Its all about charging the inductor with one frequency and discharge with other.


Example


1 joule = 1 watt / second


If you charge the inductor with one watt in one second and than discharge this inductor in 1 nano second you are creating a 1 Giga joule discharge.


The secret is the collapse of the field as i explained in the last post.


again
The pulse that charge the transformer is at one frequency but have a 99,99% duty cycle... thus the discharge occurs in 0,01% of the period thus it is about 10000 times smaller...


than voltage perform work


I will end here and let you take your conclusions.
Hi Sebosfato,

This is what I also think is part of the answer to how Meyer's WFC works, good to see that I'm not alone
in this.
I believe the voltage would rise to hilarious levels during the collapse of the EMF, to the point of it being
able to create a spark in a spark plug.
Keep up the good work :)
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 02, 2012, 22:15:30 pm
Guys i discovered meyer secret.
Its all about charging the inductor with one frequency and discharge with other.


Example


1 joule = 1 watt / second


If you charge the inductor with one watt in one second and than discharge this inductor in 1 nano second you are creating a 1 Giga joule discharge.


The secret is the collapse of the field as i explained in the last post.


again
The pulse that charge the transformer is at one frequency but have a 99,99% duty cycle... thus the discharge occurs in 0,01% of the period thus it is about 10000 times smaller...


than voltage perform work


I will end here and let you take your conclusions.
Hi Sebosfato,

This is what I also think is part of the answer to how Meyer's WFC works, good to see that I'm not alone
in this.
I believe the voltage would rise to hilarious levels during the collapse of the EMF, to the point of it being
able to create a spark in a spark plug.
Keep up the good work :)

The attached Greneau paper is one on which Stan says his work was based.
The explosions in water are basically what he was trying to do with the injectors.

Cheers,
JP

Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 02, 2012, 22:59:31 pm
Guys i discovered meyer secret.
Its all about charging the inductor with one frequency and discharge with other.


Example


1 joule = 1 watt / second


If you charge the inductor with one watt in one second and than discharge this inductor in 1 nano second you are creating a 1 Giga joule discharge.


The secret is the collapse of the field as i explained in the last post.


again
The pulse that charge the transformer is at one frequency but have a 99,99% duty cycle... thus the discharge occurs in 0,01% of the period thus it is about 10000 times smaller...


than voltage perform work


I will end here and let you take your conclusions.
Hi Sebosfato,

This is what I also think is part of the answer to how Meyer's WFC works, good to see that I'm not alone
in this.
I believe the voltage would rise to hilarious levels during the collapse of the EMF, to the point of it being
able to create a spark in a spark plug.
Keep up the good work :)

The attached Greneau paper is one on which Stan says his work was based.
The explosions in water are basically what he was trying to do with the injectors.

Cheers,
JP
Awesome JP, thanks!!
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 03, 2012, 04:38:36 am
Aways good to see this kind of good feeling!

soon i will post my conclusions from my experiments... can be really nice....

i found some things that were missing to complete those theories and put to work... soon i will come up with some good new i hope...
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 03, 2012, 11:04:10 am
Aways good to see this kind of good feeling!

soon i will post my conclusions from my experiments... can be really nice....

i found some things that were missing to complete those theories and put to work... soon i will come up with some good new i hope...
Great Sebosfato.i'm waiting that good news.

thanks
geenee
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 03, 2012, 19:06:55 pm
Guys i discovered meyer secret.
Its all about charging the inductor with one frequency and discharge with other.


Example


1 joule = 1 watt / second


If you charge the inductor with one watt in one second and than discharge this inductor in 1 nano second you are creating a 1 Giga joule discharge.


The secret is the collapse of the field as i explained in the last post.


again
The pulse that charge the transformer is at one frequency but have a 99,99% duty cycle... thus the discharge occurs in 0,01% of the period thus it is about 10000 times smaller...


than voltage perform work


I will end here and let you take your conclusions.
Hi Sebosfato,

This is what I also think is part of the answer to how Meyer's WFC works, good to see that I'm not alone
in this.
I believe the voltage would rise to hilarious levels during the collapse of the EMF, to the point of it being
able to create a spark in a spark plug.
Keep up the good work :)

Please also read the postings about the PFN (PULSE FORMING NETWORK modulators) idea!

http://open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=170&pid=3846#pid3846
http://open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=170&pid=3891#pid3891
http://open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=646&pid=6731#pid6731

With this we can generate UNIPOLAR PULSES with (AC or DC CHARGING) CHOKES as a critically damped oscillator.
http://open-source-energy.org/forum/attachment.php?aid=1102

Br,
Webmug
Title: Re: Dan Danforth replication of Stan Meyer's work, after a meeting with Stan.
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 04, 2012, 03:40:07 am
Yeah seems really close webmug...