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Title: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 06, 2009, 16:39:58 pm
Here some pictures of a beetle engine.
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 06, 2009, 16:56:49 pm
Now watch the first 30 seconds of this videos.
See how Stan used some petrol in a cup to startup that bug?
Then he removes that cup very quickly.
The cup is exactly where the carb is... ;)
Stan has put his outlet hose from the wfc directly into the carb.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIXjODu7DIA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIXjODu7DIA)
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 06, 2009, 18:55:41 pm
Yes, he did... it must be a cup of petrol since they are waiting for the petrol to be used up.... and then "IT RUNS ON WATER!!!!!!!"

Wonder why the wfc didn't explode?.. he never used a bubbler, and this was before the "quenching circuit"?...Maybe he used one of these : http://www.ottofrei.com/store/product.php?productid=7290

 There was a pressure in cell over 13 psi even when the buggy motor was using the gas it needed... an other interesting thing is that the rpm of that motor is so high that he could perfectly drive only on the demo cell...........

That tells me it was a very efficient prosess he had discovered!

There is a thing i find extra funny... that is his friend you see in this video, is the same guy who is sitting back on top of the buggy in the news video, controlling the gas from the wfc to the carb, with a simple ballvalve!!!!!!!!!!! They could easy had made it pedal controlled mecanically or electrical controlled valve so his friend could had sit beside him when he was driving if they wanted!!!...
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 06, 2009, 23:35:40 pm
He also says something at the start like "going on into the generator in the car" ... in reference to the EPG most likely...

And he mentions the recirculating exhaust gasses, after a a few minutes he comments on how cool the exhaust coming out is, because he lowered the burning rate and temperature of the gas

And he talks about the alternator being used as an amp restrictor, and we all know that a normal alternator can put out 65-100 amps, and that is NOT restricted amps, we know only the voltage intensifier circuit is used to restrict amps

And he says that was shown and demonstrated infront of the Patent Office
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 07, 2009, 03:41:40 am
Just something to tickle your tastebuds about alternators,
The amount of power generated by an alternator can be throttled. By power i mean flowing amps. but the voltage will remain the same reguardless of amps produced. This is to ensure that the voltage level in the cars circuits doesn't bounce up and down everytime your battery needs a recharge... So technically if you only wanted voltage you could rewire an alternator to output your desired voltage and then "short it out" so there would be almost 0 amp flow but the voltage potential would stay the same. Also a lot of the power consumed by your alternator is to generat the amps. Voltage potential does increase the load but amps are the main weight.
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 07, 2009, 10:40:20 am
He also says something at the start like "going on into the generator in the car" ... in reference to the EPG most likely...

And he mentions the recirculating exhaust gasses, after a a few minutes he comments on how cool the exhaust coming out is, because he lowered the burning rate and temperature of the gas

And he talks about the alternator being used as an amp restrictor, and we all know that a normal alternator can put out 65-100 amps, and that is NOT restricted amps, we know only the voltage intensifier circuit is used to restrict amps

And he says that was shown and demonstrated infront of the Patent Office

I need to listen again, i c..... ;)
These are the moments that i wished that my native language was english.... :)

Thanks Donald!


Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 07, 2009, 15:49:16 pm
CrazyEwok, yes, if you use a regulator, it will output constant voltage, however this design is non-regulated, and using a constant speed motor with constant rpm, and a variac to control input to control output
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 11, 2010, 03:26:30 am
sorry to not post sooner.
 
That is not a cup of gasoline.  Hydrogen is lighter than air, Meyer had to "choke" the motor to keep the hydrogen from escaping.  Once the vacuum of the motor was in effect the "choke" could be removed.
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 11, 2010, 21:22:19 pm
sorry to not post sooner.
 
That is not a cup of gasoline.  Hydrogen is lighter than air, Meyer had to "choke" the motor to keep the hydrogen from escaping.  Once the vacuum of the motor was in effect the "choke" could be removed.
well, why is he shuffeling it so sneaky away?
I know this is not a big thing, but it is at least funny to see him doing that....
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 12, 2010, 07:59:33 am
CrazyEwok, yes, if you use a regulator, it will output constant voltage, however this design is non-regulated, and using a constant speed motor with constant rpm, and a variac to control input to control output
Sorry to be pedantic but my implecation was that by "adjusting" the "inward" power to an alternator then "shorting" the output you can adjust the outward voltage. Also the regulator for voltage and for amp flow are 2 different applications. which means you could remove one and leave the other... Still its a nasty piece of work trying to jerry rig an alternator to do what you want... might almost be worth while "re-wiring" it to get what you want... **wink** **wink**
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 18, 2010, 13:24:02 pm
I believe it,s a 3x5 file card which is being used to hold open the butterfly valve on the carburator.  I use to do this all the time when my duster was flooded. You will see Stan put it in his pocket, a little hard to do with a cup.
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 19, 2010, 10:08:31 am
Yes, that must be the case there.
Simple add some petrol that way and startup the engine.
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 20, 2010, 08:50:41 am
The video is not working
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 21, 2010, 05:52:56 am
I believe it,s a 3x5 file card which is being used to hold open the butterfly valve on the carburator.  I use to do this all the time when my duster was flooded. You will see Stan put it in his pocket, a little hard to do with a cup

I remember reading that there was a team that entered a Hydrogen powered "car" into the land speed races in the US. They couldn't get the Carb to work with the hydrogen well so they ended up forcing it to WOT and then adjusted the flow rate of hydrogen to control engine speed. If all Stan needed was a little fuel to start the engine surely he could of devised a way to release the hydrogen into the intake while the starter was kicking over... to tell you the truth if i had to warm my engine up on petrol then drive on HHO its still worth its weight in gold!
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 21, 2010, 07:20:44 am
he discuses this start up issue in patent 4,389,981
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 30, 2012, 06:00:12 am
was hoping someone knew wat all these things are.
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 30, 2012, 19:22:36 pm
The video is not working

Here is a link to a working video that should be the same.

JP
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 30, 2012, 19:53:14 pm
Yes, he did... it must be a cup of petrol since they are waiting for the petrol to be used up.... and then "IT RUNS ON WATER!!!!!!!"

Wonder why the wfc didn't explode?.. he never used a bubbler, and this was before the "quenching circuit"?...Maybe he used one of these : http://www.ottofrei.com/store/product.php?productid=7290

 There was a pressure in cell over 13 psi even when the buggy motor was using the gas it needed... an other interesting thing is that the rpm of that motor is so high that he could perfectly drive only on the demo cell...........

That tells me it was a very efficient process he had discovered!

There is a thing i find extra funny... that is his friend you see in this video, is the same guy who is sitting back on top of the buggy in the news video, controlling the gas from the wfc to the carb, with a simple ballvalve!!!!!!!!!!! They could easy had made it pedal controlled mechanically or electrical controlled valve so his friend could had sit beside him when he was driving if they wanted!!!...

Stan often started to buggy with regular gasoline and then let the fuel cell take over so he could demonstrate that the engine would run the same on both fuels.
He is using the small card to choke the carburetor when starting in this video.
He may have had some gasoline in the carb but may have been starting the engine on HHO from the cell.
It is impossible to tell and he doesn't state anything about starting on the cell.

There was a flash arrestor in the line connected to the cell at the hose outlet.
Stan would NEVER risk an explosion of his cell.
The connection can be seen in the photo of the cell from the estate pictures.

The "friend/assistant' in most all the videos is Charlie Holbrook.
He is about the only person who helped Stan do any demonstrations.
Charlie wasn't an engineer or versed in the technical aspects of building circuits or systems.
It was Charlie's son who wound up with all of Meyer's equipment and who allowed DynoDon to take the Estate pictures and examine the equipment.

The other thing going on here is that the EPG may have been being used to power the motor running the full cell also.
That big box in front of the engine has the EPG inside.
Again, we can't tell everything that is happening here since Stan doesn't really show what is connected to what, such as if the drive motor for the alternator on the ground is running of an A/C wall socket or the EPG.
What the video clearly shows is that Meyer could run the 80 HP buggy engine at high speed idle with the demonstration cell running at a constant 13.5 lbs of pressure. This means he could obviously run an alternator that could power the cell to produce enough gas to run an engine at least 1500 cc's.
The question still is how he modified the alternator as he says he did to "restrict amp flow while increasing voltage potential" because he states elsewhere that merely increasing the speed of the alternator increase voltage to the cell.

Cheers,
JP
Title: Re: Beetle engine picture
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 31, 2012, 20:28:33 pm
was hoping someone knew wat all these things are.

pic 1 = waterfuelcell
pic 2/3 = regulator / mixer
pic 4 = watertank level sensor
pic 5 = static waterfilter

those are my 2 cents.