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Title: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors system
Post by: Login to see usernames on November 24, 2009, 15:28:17 pm
Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors system.

Steve
Title: Re: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors system
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 06, 2009, 16:26:46 pm
new theory:

The Condensator must collapse, i.e. the Electrodes will shortcut by producing a spark!
This means that the distance between the electrodes, so the gap between the 2 tubes that form the condensator determines what Voltage must be in the resonant circuit!
The Resonant Circuit is a High Voltage circuit. Try operating the Resonant Circuit at around 5000 Voltage (Could be lower in? water, experiment!).
The collapse will cause the resonancy!
Title: Re: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors system
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 06, 2009, 19:17:39 pm
new theory:

The Condensator must collapse, i.e. the Electrodes will shortcut by producing a spark!
This means that the distance between the electrodes, so the gap between the 2 tubes that form the condensator determines what Voltage must be in the resonant circuit!
The Resonant Circuit is a High Voltage circuit. Try operating the Resonant Circuit at around 5000 Voltage (Could be lower in? water, experiment!).
The collapse will cause the resonancy!

Do you mean just like a disruptor spark in a Tesla DC charge circuit on the primary coil?
But now controlling /adjusting the GATE signal ,just before HV spark would occur between di-pole in the dielectric(water)?

br
Webmug
Title: Re: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors system
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 06, 2009, 22:04:05 pm
not sure.
Just found this theory and shared it with you.
Maybe it helps in the thinking proces.

Steve
Title: Re: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors system
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 07, 2009, 20:08:29 pm
If you Google for:
water dielectic breakdown voltage
you get a lot of confusing info.

It seems that the breakdown voltage is in the region of 10 400 Volts per mm for pure water.
Thats a lot more than the 1000 Volts per mm for air.
Title: Re: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors system
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 07, 2009, 23:19:35 pm
Here's an interesting read on dielectric breakdown of water.  I downloaded it from h2earth.org.

Andy
Title: Re: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors system
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 08, 2009, 02:16:05 am
Quote
Do you mean just like a disruptor spark in a Tesla DC charge circuit on the primary coil?
But now controlling /adjusting the GATE signal ,just before HV spark would occur between di-pole in the dielectric(water)?


i would say similar but i would compare it more to a cloud and lightning.. for the reasons that your not forcing the electric fields through a narrow rod and gap... it is occuring between to planes like the lower plain of the cloud and the ground..   

earths surface is the negative plate surface while the positive plate is the cloud..  the cloud is white due to the fact it is positivily charged and deflects all light (positive) that the sun projects at it...  the quantitiy of charged particles is what determines amount of potential.. therefor the sun drives the force to energize water into the sky as a form of work  and causes displacement.. this displacment posses a charge that is attracted to the ground since it contains negative charge electons and will freely give them due to the fact earth posses a neutral charge..  but there is a resistance for the water to be able to reach ground and that would be the atmosphere and its resistance to conduct. notice we tend to have afternon showers during the rainy season..     

one must realize that the meduim does not contain  a consistancy of dielectric resistance due to contaminates... this means you get a reaction like lightning enabling current.. the potential will search for the less resistive path to cross and will form current...  we must tune into that i believe.. right before it finds the easiest path for creating current during the rise of voltage
Title: Re: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors system
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 13, 2009, 19:15:08 pm
hmmmmmmmmmmm, interesting.
Title: Re: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors system
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 07, 2010, 17:08:03 pm
Can someone explain, how Stan was keeping the water in the water fuel tank in liquid form, below zero degrees Celsius?
It's kind of a problem to get water into a cell/injector when it is in ice form?

I assume, he has put some of a electrical heating device in the WFC/water tank?

br,
webmug
Title: Re: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors system
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 07, 2010, 17:28:08 pm
thats what the steam resonantors job was.. to instantly heat water... it would keep the water from freezing in the fuel tank
Title: Re: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors system
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 07, 2010, 17:54:13 pm
thats what the steam resonantors job was.. to instantly heat water... it would keep the water from freezing in the fuel tank
Thanks, outlawstc
The 'Voltage Flexing Process' and the 'VIC Switchover Circuit'  8)

br,
webmug
Title: Re: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors sys
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 07, 2010, 21:57:23 pm
I have a similar question re. Meyer's unit during freezing weather.  Where I live we can get some serious weather conditions with temps dipping to sub-zero at times.  With nothing running overnite how does he get the engine started from a non-running condition?  The whole works would have frozen solid.  Maybe he just keeps it running continuously in an idle mode.
Title: Re: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors system
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 07, 2010, 22:19:48 pm
Hes got that steam resonator thing getting switched on if the water passes a cartain treshold .

This is always on even when the car is shutoff .

A tiny pulses of energy every 20 minutes or so keeps the water warm for the next day .

Even I could do that if I had the steam resonator .
Title: Re: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors sys
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 07, 2010, 22:25:24 pm
hmmmmmmmmmm, if you do the calculations required to keep h2o above freezing at 1 cal. per gram per degree C. you'll see that a goodly amount of energy needs to be sustained and expended.  it's lot to ask of the battery if the engine is not running.
Title: Re: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors sys
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 07, 2010, 22:30:08 pm
hmmmmmmmmmm, if you do the calculations required to keep h2o above freezing at 1 cal. per gram per degree C. you'll see that a goodly amount of energy needs to be sustained and expended.  it's lot to ask of the battery if the engine is not running.

Thats because the Steam resonator is like a godly efficient heater and is on its own an OU like device .

Its works with "particle impact" as they say ...
Title: Re: Start here your topics on the resonance waterfuelcell with HHO injectors sys
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 08, 2010, 05:53:03 am
now that is exceedingly interesting.