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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gauss on May 29, 2009, 11:08:56 am

Title: Piezo bolts and acoustic resonance - IMPORTANT...
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 29, 2009, 11:08:56 am
@Everyone, this is extremely important so that you don´t waste your time and money. I am more than 95% convinced Stan used Piezo bolts and the concept is very easy. Acoustic resonance in the cylinders(inner one included) when the water molecules are polarized is key to phenomenal results. It is just a repeat action from Keely, Puharich etc.

So please go read this thread and consider everything: http://forums.ec.europa.eu/debateeurope/viewtopic.php?t=6103&start=15&sid=f19116ea9b6332136c5df09fbf181743

Then buy trnsducers and attach them to the pipes and see what happens. Calculate the acoustic resonance point and prioritize that one over the electric resonance point. I am sure stuff will happen.
Title: Re: Piezo bolts and acoustic resonance - IMPORTANT...
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 29, 2009, 15:19:16 pm
Sounds good, but now in practisch.
Do those piezo bolts really excists?
I never seen those. However, its worth a try.
Even if it was to rule out the possibility, is it.

Br
Steve

Does anyone have such a bolts?
Title: Re: Piezo bolts and acoustic resonance - IMPORTANT...
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 29, 2009, 20:15:27 pm
Here you got the full picture: http://www.kodasplace.com/more/watermotors.html



Now this is pretty darn good news.... ;D

Just go get a fat piezo who resists 2 kV and shake the inner cylinder.
Title: Re: Piezo bolts and acoustic resonance - IMPORTANT...
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 30, 2009, 02:55:56 am
nah , I dont think so ...
Title: Re: Piezo bolts and acoustic resonance - IMPORTANT...
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 30, 2009, 20:53:00 pm
A Piezo can withstand 2 kV per mm and normally max 3(!) mAmps so if you need to input alot of Watts you need a massive resistance in the coil(SS)........ Low burst freq can be achieved since the crystal self resonates a long time after the last pulse. Thick crystal means low freq so that is why 2 kHz probably is how high you can go if you need lots of input. Later Stan used up to 40 smaller crystals to increase the input and output.


It all adds up phenomenally well. Go shake the inner cylinder. Key must be to get a 1D shake to get maximum efficiency by a standing wave inside for a long time...

Those who don´t know or want to learn about crystals, well you are missing something here - for sure - and I am no MIB......
Title: Re: Piezo bolts and acoustic resonance - IMPORTANT...
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 31, 2009, 03:37:02 am
ok maybe , it has merit .

Too much foir me tho , too high tech .

I dont know much about crystals ...

Title: Re: Piezo bolts and acoustic resonance - IMPORTANT...
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 31, 2009, 04:08:48 am
Doesn't  follow KISS principles!

This is a distraction, we are close!
Title: Re: Piezo bolts and acoustic resonance - IMPORTANT...
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 31, 2009, 09:02:49 am
A sound wave is pretty much simpler than a HV "wave"...

Anyway, keep doing the injector and VIC, the Piezo will be easy to get when the other stuff is finished.
Title: Re: Piezo bolts and acoustic resonance - IMPORTANT...
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 31, 2009, 14:58:51 pm
Quote
Doesn't  follow KISS principles!

This is a distraction, we are close!

agreed

but i would like to mention stans designs for his water cells.. the outter tube is being held in place in a way where it is possible for it to vibrate due to frequency and voltage i belevie.. the inside tubes are all welded to the same base making them non movable and less likely to vibrate. need to focus on the quote i have posted from stan.. need to visualize what he is saying and how that type of pulse will restrict amps.. 1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3---------gate---------1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3-----------gate----------1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3   
1= positive plate pulse, 2= both, 3 = negative plate pulse.... that will create a standing wave in a unipolar direction across the water gap, it will  restrict amps since your sequence is keeping it from dead short... it is working more with a physical change to the water rather then chemical..  it almost sounds like ac voltage but it is not.. ac voltage is always switching polarities in plates this it not, since we are rectifying it as well.
Title: Re: Piezo bolts and acoustic resonance - IMPORTANT...
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 01, 2009, 21:22:21 pm
Idea is super simple, put an enormous tension over a steel wire, then cut it with an extremely sharp tool, without the simultaneous tension and tool you can not do it...... The cutting of the water molecule will be made by the sound wave causing denser and thinner regions in the water, where the thin region is many molecules will burst. And the water molecules will be polarized with extreme tension between positive and negative since it is a dipole so yes they will burst.

I believe he used HV and then the sonic resonance frequency between the cylinders can be rather high if he shatters the molecules in the 1-3 mm gap between the cylinders. Problem is how to mount the cylinder so it can shake horisontally with stability, time to study and consult experts, well that will come to us easily in due time.. I have seen bigger mountains than this one.