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« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2014, 07:45:12 am »
Very good results...

I could determine that the water indeed receive the induction and voltage can be measured at the electrodes. but if you add a load it just disappear and become few millivolts.

The induced voltage is higher than i thought i could reach up to 400v and beyond pulses using as little as 10v input.

I tried applying 180v to the water electrodes and no bubble was generated... i was using a solution of sodium hydroxide. unknown quantity,.. strangely the capacitors of my power supply started to burn at this point... The idea is that at one electrode there was going to be hydrogen and at the other pure oxygen.. no visible bubble at all...

Maybe the 10 meter of tube gives lots of resistance even if the water is conductive...

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« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2014, 11:14:40 am »
Longer tubes gives less resistance,tried it.

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« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2014, 12:40:43 pm »
Longer tubes gives less resistance,tried it.

How long was yours? Which different setups did you tried? Did you used my diagram for non dissipative snubber? How many cores?

Would be nice if we all could do the experiments and could share results would it not?

If i just could have more time i'm willing to make lots of experiments...

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« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2014, 15:58:41 pm »
I was refering to strait dc,tube were 20cm long.

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« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2014, 18:57:33 pm »
good luck with the experiments, in my setup a two coating system is needed for the inner cylinder one n-type one p-type to make a large diode and work like a polyfuse too... the source doesnt see the outer cylinder but the water as positive while the outer cylinder sees the inner cylinder as negative.. energy is stored in the capacitor device and because electrons from inner cylinder have done chemical work (electrolysis) the energy stored in the capacitor is over farady , ofcourse you need ns pulses and high voltage otherwise displacement current kicks in I suppose...and some way to discharge the capacitors to reuse this energy without thermal loss prob LC circuit..
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« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2014, 21:27:18 pm »
good luck with the experiments, in my setup a two coating system is needed for the inner cylinder one n-type one p-type to make a large diode and work like a polyfuse too... the source doesnt see the outer cylinder but the water as positive while the outer cylinder sees the inner cylinder as negative.. energy is stored in the capacitor device and because electrons from inner cylinder have done chemical work (electrolysis) the energy stored in the capacitor is extra I don't know if overunity but maybe over farady , ofcourse you need ns pulses and high voltage otherwise displacement current kicks in I suppose...and some way to discharge the capacitors to reuse this energy without thermal loss prob LC circuit..

Yes thats kind of close to he things i'm planning... two pairs of electrodes but i actually used diodes to direct the current in my diagrams... ideally the plates are coated with some catalyzer... well this are mine ideas to improve current.. this way the ions simply prefere to discharge than travel all the way to the tube so as the imbalance is corrected all the time the imbalance is not going to limit the current output of the generator part and help not create back magnetomotive force on the coil since the current is encouraged to travel thru the circuit generating power. Just like you described i also had this view that once half the ions discharges the others ions charge become available to be used as electricity. .

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« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2014, 23:39:07 pm »
Longer tubes gives less resistance,tried it.

I thought your talking about another thing... actually i guess we are not talking about the same thing... i'm talking about the length if the water in the plastic pipe having terminations at the ends of the pipes... ...

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« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2014, 08:02:25 am »
Adding a 1 kohm load the voltage waveform get distorted and drops to around 5 volts peak so the curet output is really small...

This tells me that the internal resistance still high. it can be determined ... around 79kohms according to mine calculation.. assuming the 400v peak having open circuit. even if the wave form get distorted and different ...

I'm going to construct a more practical device to be able to change the solutions more easily...

What do you think about that?