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Re: The most overlooked patent
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2014, 13:14:14 pm »
Nope... maybe if you explain in detail....

I aways try to get everything in the detail very clear to let you understand...
normally if i'm not able to explain is sign that i don't get it clear to myself either... 


Please if you could explain your ideas more completely, this way i can understand it a little better and get to discuss it to arrive somewhere...

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Re: The most overlooked patent
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2014, 14:55:01 pm »
I was researching more about this and i think that this patent Electrical Pulse generator is a type of homopolar generator but as the output coil forms a toroid the magnetic reaction force to the induced current should not be as greater as the generated current since the magnetic field start getting contained inside the toroid...

I'm not sure thats completely true...

would you help?

why it shouldn't work?

I was wondering if the magnetic field inside the toroid can cancel the induced voltage..

(http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2846.0;attach=13273;image)


The coil represents a toroid that moves cutting the magnetic field lines....

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Re: The most overlooked patent
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2014, 15:10:42 pm »
As you know some magnetic flux points to the side of the moving coil and interacts with the toroid field but there's no magnetic "drag" from this (you can analyze the vectors) .. so this is a lenzless generator.. but its not overunity meaning it needs input to generate energy.. the moving coils' fields can pass inside the toroid.. the toroid field can't pass outside , the vectors look like they would push more current in the toroid...but I'm not sure

now regarding my drawing F= v x B for moving charges  I guess you know that, now take the moving charge of the wire conductor to be the observer v<<c ..  you can arrive to the F=B x v of william hooper .. the force is towards the wire conductor.. the spiralling coil means that the force that moves the charges towards the center also creates a magnetic field of its own that can interact with the charge inside the conductor, the current should be pulsed dc..ofcourse I can be wrong.. but this is too similar with other stuff... to be completely wrong.

the black stuff is the wire and the orange the coil..
« Last Edit: February 15, 2014, 15:45:36 pm by geon »

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Re: The most overlooked patent
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2014, 21:55:12 pm »
As you know some magnetic flux points to the side of the moving coil and interacts with the toroid field but there's no magnetic "drag" from this (you can analyze the vectors) .. so this is a lenzless generator.. but its not overunity meaning it needs input to generate energy.. the moving coils' fields can pass inside the toroid.. the toroid field can't pass outside , the vectors look like they would push more current in the toroid...but I'm not sure

now regarding my drawing F= v x B for moving charges  I guess you know that, now take the moving charge of the wire conductor to be the observer v<<c ..  you can arrive to the F=B x v of william hooper .. the force is towards the wire conductor.. the spiralling coil means that the force that moves the charges towards the center also creates a magnetic field of its own that can interact with the charge inside the conductor, the current should be pulsed dc..ofcourse I can be wrong.. but this is too similar with other stuff... to be completely wrong.

the black stuff is the wire and the orange the coil..

I'm not sure if its going or not to be over unity but if it generate more electricity than the back force certainly is going to be! it does not matter that you need tu put energy to turn it. over unity concept means generate more energy than it consumes,,, simply

I still don't understand your drawing...

I don't understand how those shorted coils are operating...

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Re: The most overlooked patent
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2014, 23:31:20 pm »
red are negative charges blue are positive charges..charges can come only from the red area even though the force vector points in a different direction..force is greater towards the center ...  see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depletion_region 


maybe the coil arrangement is different in meyer setup I don't know... you try

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Re: The most overlooked patent
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2014, 03:42:01 am »
red are negative charges blue are positive charges..charges can come only from the red area even though the force vector points in a different direction..force is greater towards the center ...  see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depletion_region 


maybe the coil arrangement is different in meyer setup I don't know... you try

Now sorry man, but i don't have a clue of what are you talking about...

Maybe try to explain each part separately and completely otherwise i guess we can't arrive anywhere...

Did anyone else understood all this?

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Keep strong we'll get there!

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Re: The most overlooked patent
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2014, 07:44:12 am »
Do you think the Electrical pulse generator could be constructed with permanent magnets instead of electromagnets?

I'm talking about this patent for clarity 4,613,779

i'm thinking how to get it assembly
« Last Edit: February 17, 2014, 08:25:00 am by sebosfato »

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Re: The most overlooked patent
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2014, 07:55:39 am »
voltage is a function of distance here... there's a voltage differential between the inner and outer radius of the coil(forget that its grounded)..and different current densities..

ΔV=B*v*width of the wire... = μ*Ι*v*w/(2*π*distance)  voltage is not a vector function... it has no direction...do you understand now???


it can work with permanent magnets if it works with electromagnets ...
« Last Edit: February 17, 2014, 08:49:08 am by geon »