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Re: Could this be the end of America?
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2008, 11:09:08 am »
karebill,

I love your plan very much.  It makes a whole lot of sense.

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Re: Could this be the end of America?
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2008, 11:12:53 am »
h2opower,

Thanks  for sharing.  You have some great insight into this calamity.  Things look very bleak indeed.

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Re: Could this be the end of America?
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2008, 13:22:55 pm »
Hydrocars,

Thanks for sharing the link.  It looks very very bleak. 

We need to develope some sort of plan for this survival scenario also.  There are deep underground bases here in US and around the world to protect the chosen few.  Harsh things are getting ready to happen on the surface.  Most of us will be on our own.

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Re: Could this be the end of America?
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2008, 15:48:07 pm »
Here is an E-mail I got which makes more since than anything i have heard yet.

I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG. Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend.
To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citi zens 18+. Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and  child.
So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up. So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billion that equals $425,000.00. My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It  Dividend. Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes. That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam. But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
A husband and wife has $595,000.00. What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family? Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads Put away money for college - it'll be there Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car - create jobs Invest in t he market - capital drives growth Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces. If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of
trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( "vote buy" ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President. If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult US Citizen 18+! As for AIG - liquidate it. Sell off its parts. Let American General go back to being American General. Sell off the real estate. Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up. Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't. Sure it's a crazy idea that can "never work." But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party! How do you spell Economic Boom? I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion. We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC . And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam. Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.

Kindest personal reguards
Birk

 T. J. Birkenmeier, A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic



I like this idea, but the math doesn't add up.  200 million people getting $425,000 adds up to 85 trillion dollars, not 85 billion dollars.

85 billion dollars divided up between 200 million people is $425.

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Re: Could this be the end of America?
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2008, 18:11:40 pm »
mikemongo,

I'd take their $425 but it wouldn't go that far.  Now the other amount  would be  really nice wouldn't it?

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Re: Could this be the end of America?
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2008, 18:26:11 pm »
That kind of money would be life altering for me.

I could work on this technology full time and maybe make some real headway for dirt cheap energy.

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Re: Could this be the end of America?
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2008, 07:46:56 am »
Well the bill didn't pass so we have some more time before the crash of the dollar, so let us do all we can to make this technology a reality, for the dollar is doomed just not as fast as they wanted it too be ::).