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Title: RLC resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 12, 2009, 21:17:54 pm
well it is off to find resonance.

resonance is the gated frequency......

this is how it is accomplished with the diode.

so here we go.
Title: Re: RLC resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 13, 2009, 00:27:26 am
so here is what is going on right now.....i find the more resistance in the way of the circuit the harder it is to push through it with my function generator my function generator's dc offset and amplitude only go so far.....

i am going to try and get a power amplifier (the kind used in cars).....maybe from a friend or from a pawn shop.

hopefully this may actually allow me to have the pushing force i so desire.

i think i could achieve resonance and finally solve meyers but i need to have a little more power.....my amplitude is only 5 volts.....and dc offset is only 20 volts......it is a combination of these 2 variables that makes the double pulse work.......so now if i can just push a little harder and tweak through the resistance which dumbs down my signal.....(even though it is going through a mosfet it still does this.)

none of this may sound correct but i understand how my function generator works a little more now.

so hopefully this will be the next step.

i have to cash a check tomorrow then i will go out and get one of these.

i need something that will push up my amplitude......a mosfet does not do this.....it will pump in power......but it will not increase both in uniform....this may also be why i have to play with their ratios.

an audio amplifier will amplify the entire signal.

this may be why meyers always talks about 13 volts minimum to split water......you need an amplitude of 13 volts on your signal wave.
Title: Re: RLC resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 13, 2009, 01:07:01 am
the minimum amplitude for this to work is called the

electrical-stress threshold start-point.

as stated in the independant report.
Title: Re: RLC resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 13, 2009, 21:06:37 pm
ughhh can't seem to find an audio amplifier......

would anyone happen to know a way to increase voltage amplitude?

as in stan's circuit there are 3 components...

a variable pulse generator 50 percent duty cycle

a variable voltage amplitude control

and a variable pulse gate control

i have all of those but my amplitude is only of 5 volts......i need something with much a much higher voltage amplitude......

anyone electronics experts that would know of a quick solution?
Title: Re: RLC resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 13, 2009, 21:19:43 pm
ughhh can't seem to find an audio amplifier......
audio amplifiers are available at music stores, such as
http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tamp_pm40c_endstufenmodul.htm
Title: Re: RLC resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 13, 2009, 21:37:01 pm
i went to all the ones in my area.....nothing........

but i have an idea.......i will take a variac and full bridge rectify it so i can have a complete adjustable voltage amplitude......so i will replace the variac's output in palce of my 12 volt dc battery......then i will have full control of the output.

i think this will work.....

 so i have to go get a variac real quick.

Title: Re: RLC resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 13, 2009, 21:46:52 pm
i went to all the ones in my area.....nothing........

but i have an idea.......i will take a variac and full bridge rectify it so i can have a complete adjustable voltage amplitude......so i will replace the variac's output in palce of my 12 volt dc battery......then i will have full control of the output.

i think this will work.....

 so i have to go get a variac real quick.



Good idea. I did that as well.
You better add a big cap on the bridge for more flat DC.

br
Steve
Title: Re: RLC resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 13, 2009, 23:18:28 pm
i noticed stan didn't do that.....so i am going to wing this...i have a good feeling.
Title: Re: RLC resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 14, 2009, 06:00:27 am
alright so i see what is going on here......the diagrams for the gas processor are different then the diagrams for the wfc......

the gas processor goes up to 40kilovolts do to it's connections......

the water fuel cell is different.

so for the gas processor you can run a variac through a bridge rectifier and gate it and send that into the resonant charging chokes (the resonant charging chokes are a different use here i can elaborate later)

for the wfc in order for me to control my voltage amplitude i had to take a variac run it into a step up transformer then full wave rectify it run it through a microwave capacitor then connect it up to my mosfet in place of my battery.(stevie you were correct on the capcitor....but in the other circuits like figure 7 i realize why there is no capacitor.....it is the gas processor which performs differently this may be also why there are 2 different bifilar connections......one for the wfc how john connected it....and one for the gas processor how dankie connects it.)

it works.

tomorrow i will test it out and hopefully be able to use it in water.

but i have successfully figured out the voltage amplitude control.

stay tuned for tomorrow.
Title: Re: RLC resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 14, 2009, 13:01:44 pm
The EEC is just positive voltage with no other electrode , it makes no sense that my phase conjugate theory would be present here . I makes sense that it would be ther other way around , my connection for the cell and positive voltage for the electron extraction .

So it works ? Ok , show us .

Title: Re: RLC resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 14, 2009, 16:08:59 pm
I am under the impression that the gas processor only goes to about 2000 volts and in that range. Ionizing air/oxygen/hydrogen is different than ionizing the water.
Title: Re: RLC resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 14, 2009, 17:03:30 pm
dankie what are you talking about with EEC......im am not even there yet.......

your not a very good reader are you?....or maybe you are confused and i am confused.......i just said that i figured out the voltage amplitude control and that yes it does work......it is actually incredibly simple. REALLY.

and donald it takes a very very high voltage to ionize oxygen......it is stated in the tech brief that it takes more voltage to ionize gas then to split the water.......

wf cell will never reach 40,000 volts......it can but then you would be splitting water and ionizing the particles inside the cell and exploding them all in an "instant"......then you have just successfully made a bomb.....that is why gas and water are done seperately then re-combined.....this is why i think the gas processor has an earth ground.....and the wfc has an isolated ground...for different voltage levels.

there is a reason why there are 2 different bifilar connections.

i will draw a picture of my setup for variable voltage control.
Title: Re: RLC resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 14, 2009, 17:07:30 pm
much to learn i guess, and i've already learned so much...

Glad to see you are making progress and discoveries and sorting things out.
Title: Re: RLC resonance
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 14, 2009, 17:19:30 pm
alright so when i get back i will make a new thread on the varialbe voltage control and draw the schematic for it in technical form and in pretty picture form.