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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #48 on: March 01, 2009, 19:45:28 pm »
I know of 1 MEG replication, exhibiting OU, that is Naudin's.

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current from higher voltage wants to go to low voltage, therefore 2 diodes over the chokes, 1 behind and 1 in front. WFC will see the highest volt.
still, very strange design this 10-11

you are correct that it wants to go to a lower potential of unlike charge.. the positve stainless is connected to positve side of primary.. everytime the gates on the primary winding loop is closed alowing curent flow it allows electrons to escape primary and gives it positve ions.... these chokes are not doing what you think they are.. they are saturating with there own unipolar charges.. so all the electrons on the positve side of the stainless remain on the south pole untill they can be removed.. there no reason why the primary cannot feed positive copper ions in from a low voltage source.
Wait, don't forget (I  did) diodes 'open'  at potential difference, + side being higher than -... thus, only the highest voltage will show up on the positive, other lower voltages will stay behind the diodes.

gonna give your comment a thought, am new to this one

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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #49 on: March 01, 2009, 20:28:29 pm »
yes but the way i see it is the stainless bifilar negative is whats hooked in center of secondary.. its oscilating reaction from ac magnetic field pulseing. wouldnt it  interact and help pull positive  in positve choke from primary? if the positive has 2000 volts positve charge.. wouldnt that positve charge orientate itself on the north side leaving higher consentration of negative electrons on the south side? would it not be produceing 2000 - volts on the south side as well? would that -2000 volts colapse the diode allowing more positve in?  the fact that it is labeled to be hooked to positive primary says alot.. it gives it interactance with the gate signal  working like a controlable on and off switch.. there is only a gat and variable voltage going to it.. the alternator does the rest for you.. other then the variable rpm.. thats the frequency everybodys so confused about.. it is determined by rpms.. they can see the fact that a alternator swings 180 in and out of phase  in even amplitudes and will produce a balanced resonanting wave 24/7 stop thinking resonance start thinking winds, induction, capacitive induction.. unibolar,, most important understand dynamic voltage and static voltage.. the  waves dankie is speaking of i beleave are the mix of dynamic and static voltage performing in oscillating manner by the presence of unipolar pulses.. stan calls is a voltage wave guide and dankie has now founded it as the scalar wave guide... for a more technical term.  i think it sounds better myself


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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #50 on: March 02, 2009, 17:52:49 pm »
I gave your post a long thought, can't really answer, but I came to this conclusion:
current from 2000 to 0 wont happen, because AIC diode prevents it.
current from 0 to -2000 wont happen (= electrons from -2000 to 0), because of simultaneously induced magnetic field.
since rotating field makes sinewave, what happens from 180 deg sine (negative)?
can a reverse voltage over secondary occur?
looking at the waves to wfc, it should not, but is it prevented?
how does collapsing fields interact with induced field from rotor?

(answer if  you wish, I'm just thinking out loud :) )

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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #51 on: March 02, 2009, 22:34:06 pm »
its all a timing thing.. three phases allows there secondarys to hit there peaks 120 out from each other in repition...  so lets number them 1, 2, and 3.. our output to the cell is coming from the stainless,  they are all wound with the same resistance. 11.6k  the positive stainless is hooked to the alternators primary with a diode.. when gates on then its feeding stainless with positive energy.. when it is off it switches off just like the secondarys doing to the copper positive choke and diode. the negative stainless is tapped into the center of the secondary with a diode that only alows negative potentail in and positive out..  so your input stainless is interacting with both primary and secondaries on the alternator threw center tap secondary and positive primary.. ..  the choke is no different then a transformer.. just pretend that the copper windings are the primary and the stainless are the secondarys on the choke.. the stainless negative connected to secondary gives the stainless negative the same potentail being produced on secondary while the positve stainless is giving it the 10-20k signal/ gate from primary pulse..  so since we have 3 time outputs lets use on to pulse just positve one to pulse both and one to pulse just negative... by doing so u establish a dynamic/static/dynamic sequence of events that are happening  repetitive 123123123123  forming a real voltage wave guide and using to electric forces at once.(static and dynamic). and i would have to say 2 forces will allways be better then one.. because your covering to advantage points for dissasociation.  the faster the alternator spins the higer the frequency output for the secondaries.. 5000rpms a 6 pole alternator is 500hertz.. 3000rpm=300 hertz and so on its funny how the they match like that lol.. keeps it simple. so if you were to wire it like this in order to get both stages of dynamic and static all you need to do is hook the stainless up to do so.. for instance P1 could just hit the cell with positve potential.. then on P2 peak it could be geting hit with just negative potential.. then on P3 peak it can his get with both..  these pulse will happen in a orderly fashon. forming oscillation  since there happening  120 out from each other. thats how static and dynamic occurs.  i do not beleive the chokes copper winding are used for anything but maybe the positve for the electron extration with leds involved for buring off the elctrons as the flow into the choke to maintain its positve potential. the 2 stainless that didnt get used on the cell are a positve and negative that can possibly be for the air ioniztion
after a year of pondering and good resources and what i have gathered from fellow Enthusiast this is what i see.

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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2009, 00:26:59 am »
If you guys are trying to figure out how the Steam Resonator works...

I made a simplified picture.

If you guys are trying to figure something else out, keep going, except I don't see why you are comparing the VIC Coil to the 3 phase alternator. That looks a lot more complicated than anything I read in the TB

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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #53 on: March 03, 2009, 01:54:35 am »
theres a bigger picture here your not seeing.. its not hitting it with the same voltage sequence  as the steam resonantor.. the steam resonator flops the voltage on both tubes..  meaning both sides are high voltage positve then there both high voltage negative.. the output voltage of  my drawing will never allow the tubes to switch polarity..  vic 6-1 will need fire logic for the output to switch on and off output of each polarity in pattern  (+/0       +/-        0/-) i would put 100 bucks on it. remember the voltage polarity is built buy how many electrons get dislodged from positve choke.. so when you oscillate that it isnt the same as alternating curent oscillating.. AC is oscillating electrons. we will be oscillating straight positve on one side and stratight electrons on the negative.. see what im saying?



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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #54 on: March 03, 2009, 02:18:58 am »
here is another example in schematic form for each phase.. 

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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2009, 03:05:53 am »
here is another example in schematic form for each phase.. 

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interresting design .

Keep working @ it