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Re: DO NOT USE SQUARE WAVES as a source...
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2008, 21:44:04 pm »
Go post your design with proper PLL and coil with good starting values and correct connections ...

This is not the time to be messing around ,,,

This is a site for serious people with real projects ...

We have a section called  "your design" , there you can post something and ask Stevie1001  to remove any unwanted posts in your project section .





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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2008, 22:57:20 pm »
Here is the only mention of the PLL in the whole tech brief ... Theres zero info whatsoever besides that ...

page 3-17

Obviously this is not for the "instant explosion of water"





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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2008, 23:38:27 pm »
Hi alienxx,

I thank you for bringing this new theory!
I do appriciate it very much.
I know some people are in some manner aggressive, but i hope you see thru it.

I like your background as trafo engineer and i think we can learn lots of you.

As you can see is your question a good one for debat.

Dankie, please keep it here on facts. I do not like bad manners. We talked about it. Remember.

Alien, i think squarewaves do work, because i have been using them. So i can say it from my own experience that they can do work with coils.
But yr point does make sense in the context as i see it. So thanks for your input!

Do you have any testresults or scope pictures or any other material that you can publish?


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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2008, 03:57:42 am »
AlienXXX,

Thank you for sharing, I also agree with you, It also goes with same thing Hydrocars has been saying for some time now. Hydrocars has been doing very similar experiments and also concluded that most of Stan's Patents are a cover for the real and important part of this tech.

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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2008, 04:54:24 am »
Ya well i dont believe things are so complicated ... Stan might be hiding a few things but not to that extreme ... Unfortunately i trust in Stan and his jibberish is way too complex to be made up...

I dont think he would have given himsell all that trouble of making different injectors and gas processors if he could simply feed enough gas and power a car using his cell and nothing more... He says in the international evaluation report that the cell only could never fully power a vehicule and i believe his in that respect ...

I dont believe Stan was lying to us that much ... The patents were his anyways and he was protected by law... Everything in the tech brief is mostly off-patent why would he care if some amateur could replicate it in his garage ??? ... Thats what he worked for he even says so many times ... He knew he could never get throught the market place and he wanted it to be simple so a regular guy could replicate ...

I am mostly interested in the instant explosion of water and believe what his brother  Steven Meyers said... You dont need to produce lots of gas... I dont believe he had a single working method and eveything else was cover-up and unworkable ... I trust in Stan's good will he wasnt such a hater and a trixter ...

I know for a fact that he describes VIC coil 6-1 on video in 1993 ... It couldnt have been a CIA added picture ... from section 5 to section 10 its mostly unpatented material so i dont see how he tried to trick the patent office when those designs never even got patented ....

In fact none of his powercoil designs were ever patented ... And i dont see how Hydrocars could rule out figure 8-10 when this is in fact a variaton of the VIC all-on-1 core design from figure 6-1... I doubt he made a coil like this ...





Here is a pm from 2curious4wfc , i know for a fact that he wouldnt lie to me and the following is 100% true



don't get me wrong, but can you please cut down on the PM a little bit as I have no time left for other things.
Thanks.

TWO, resonances, yes. An electrical one, used to achieve high voltage with little effort.

And an acoustical one (or mechanical if you will), eg. oscillation of particles.(the nucleus and electrons of the atoms)

Yes, it does makes things more complex, that's why many seem to have trouble. This SM
WFC is not a joke, it is quite cutting edge. Too much for most.



 my question to him : I'm not really sure what Stan means anymore by *negative voltages* , could this possibly be 2 opposite currents colliding inside the cell , or does this just mean more potential difference like a house +120 and -120 = 240 volt difference ??? Maybe this circuit have bipolar currents of same time phase and equal intensity , Plz have a look at this quote ....


Right, you got it. Two equal AND opposite voltages (or minor currents if you will) with respect to
a virtual ground, as per SM quote.

Yes, they arrive at the same time in the cell. So particles (or molecules if you will are been stressed
equally from each electrode).





So your example is not quite right !!! Correct it would be: +120V + -120V = 0V

So, look at figure 10-5. See it now ? See how he shows a mirror image of the positive waveform vs. the negative waveform and in the center line exactly zero ?

Soja, read this quote carefully, as he means exactly what he says. It is all true and makes all sense.
Think about it ! Read and then think about it again and you will see and understand.
In the mean time, educate yourself in Math, Physics and Electronics if you really want to build a
working device yourself. Don't relay on others to fix your problems remotely and online. This is
not going to happen. You will have to do that yourself.

Really, the MIB messes with your links, perhaps you should get a better internet connection ?
At this point you are nowhere near to be of any interest to any MIB whatsoever. Once you have
a working device and once you set to start selling it, that's when you need to start to worry about
them.


Anyway, start building....





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Re: DO NOT USE SQUARE WAVES as a source...
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2008, 19:20:54 pm »
I can understand why you think the way you do Dankie. You have not 1 piece of work to show for, not 1 photo Nata.

This is why you have your head up your * . Please get a life and post some of your work.

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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2008, 19:59:04 pm »
HMS-776 does great work, Please leave him out of this and try not to "instigate" any more feuds spud worm.

Your every post is a wast of bandwidth. Are you with the cia fbi or any of the following?

clearly you are the one trying to instigate things ...

I layed out a defence for Stan , Hydrocars made some very bold statements ... i already had many discussions with people who had success with his work and people who knew Stan personally ...

He was NOT a liar and had nothing to gain by hiding everything like some people say he did ... Theres 250+ pages of descriptions here its not made up ...

There might be a few wrong connections here and there but thats it ...

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Re: DO NOT USE SQUARE WAVES as a source...
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2008, 21:15:53 pm »
square waves are perfectly fine......inductance and capcitance resonate on the up and down peaks anyways so it is perfectly fine.....remeber there are multiple ways to accomplish meyers but they all use the same principles.....please don't post a topic like this with a lack of knowledge and understanding of wave forms in circuits.